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Parallel 1TH 3:4

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Text critical issues=none Clarity of original=clearImportance=normal(All still tentative.)

OET (OET-RV)Also, when we were with you all previously, we told you that we were going to be oppressed, and then it happened as you know.

OET-LVFor/Because also when with you_all we_were, we_were_previously_saying to_you_all that we_are_going to_be_being_oppressed, as also it_became and you_all_have_known.

SR-GNTΚαὶ γὰρ ὅτε πρὸς ὑμᾶς ἦμεν, προελέγομεν ὑμῖν ὅτι μέλλομεν θλίβεσθαι, καθὼς καὶ ἐγένετο καὶ οἴδατε.
   (Kai gar hote pros humas aʸmen, proelegomen humin hoti mellomen thlibesthai, kathōs kai egeneto kai oidate.)

Key: khaki:verbs, orange:accusative/object, cyan:dative/indirect object.
Note: Automatic aligning of the OET-RV to the LV is done by some temporary software, hence the OET-RV alignments are incomplete (and may occasionally be wrong).

ULTFor also when we were with you, we were telling you in advance that we are about to be afflicted, just as also it happened and you know.

USTYou are well aware of that because, while we apostles were visiting you, we warned you ahead of time that others were about to hurt us believers. You are well aware that this is exactly what occurred.

BSBIndeed, when we were with you, we kept warning you that we would suffer persecution; and as you know, it has come to pass.

BLBAnd indeed, when we were with you, we were telling you beforehand that we are about to suffer affliction, just as also it came to pass, and you know.


AICNTIndeed, when we were with you, we kept telling you that we were going to be afflicted, just as it happened, and you know.

OEBFor, even while we were with you, we warned you beforehand that we were certain to encounter trouble. And so it proved, as you know.

WEBBEFor most certainly, when we were with you, we told you beforehand that we are to suffer affliction, even as it happened, and you know.

WMBB (Same as above)

NETFor in fact when we were with you, we were telling you in advance that we would suffer affliction, and so it has happened, as you well know.

LSVfor even when we were with you, we said to you beforehand that we are about to suffer tribulation, as it also came to pass, and you have known [it];

FBVEven while we were with you we kept on warning you that we would suffer persecution soon— and as you well know that is exactly what has happened.

TCNTIn fact, when we were with you, we told you in advance that we were going to suffer affliction, and as you well know, it has now happened.

T4TRemember that when we were present with you, we kept telling you that we would be persecuted {that people would cause us to suffer}. And because that is what happened, you know that what we said was true!

LEBfor indeed when we were with you we told you beforehand that we were about to be afflicted, just as indeed it happened, and you know.

BBEAnd when we were with you, we said to you that trouble was before us; and so it came about, as you see.

MoffNo Moff 1TH book available

WymthFor even when we were with you, we forewarned you, saying, "We are soon to suffer affliction;" and this actually happened, as you well know.

ASVFor verily, when we were with you, we told you beforehand that we are to suffer affliction; even as it came to pass, and ye know.

DRAFor even when we were with you, we foretold you that we should suffer tribulations, as also it is come to pass, and you know.

YLTfor even when we were with you, we said to you beforehand, that we are about to suffer tribulation, as also it did come to pass, and ye have known [it];

Drbyfor also, when we were with you, we told you beforehand we are about to be in tribulation, even as also it came to pass, and ye know.)

RVFor verily, when we were with you, we told you beforehand that we are to suffer affliction; even as it came to pass, and ye know.

WbstrFor verily, when we were with you, we told you before that we should suffer tribulation; even as it came to pass, and ye know.

KJB-1769For verily, when we were with you, we told you before that we should suffer tribulation; even as it came to pass, and ye know.
   (For verily/truly, when we were with you, we told you before that we should suffer tribulation; even as it came to pass, and ye/you_all know. )

KJB-1611For verily when wee were with you, we told you before, that we should suffer tribulation, euen as it came to passe and ye know.
   (Modernised spelling is same as from KJB-1769 above, apart from punctuation)

BshpsFor veryly when we were with you, we tolde you before that we shoulde suffer tribulation, euen as it came to passe, and as ye knowe.
   (For verily/truly when we were with you, we told you before that we should suffer tribulation, even as it came to pass, and as ye/you_all knowe.)

GnvaFor verily when we were with you, we told you before that we should suffer tribulations, euen as it came to passe, and ye knowe it.
   (For verily/truly when we were with you, we told you before that we should suffer tribulations, even as it came to pass, and ye/you_all know it. )

CvdlAnd whan we were with you, we tolde you before, that we shulde suffre tribulacion, euen as it is come to passe, & as ye knowe.)
   (And when we were with you, we told you before, that we should suffer tribulacion, even as it is come to pass, and as ye/you_all knowe.))

TNTFor verely when I was with you I tolde you before that we shulde suffre tribulacion even as it came to passe and as ye knowe.
   (For verily/truly when I was with you I told you before that we should suffer tribulacion even as it came to pass and as ye/you_all knowe. )

WyclFor whanne we weren at you, we biforseiden to you, that we schulden suffre tribulaciouns; as it is don, and ye witen.
   (For when we were at you, we beforeseiden to you, that we should suffer tribulations; as it is done, and ye/you_all perceive.)

LuthUnd da wir bei euch waren, sagten wir‘s euch zuvor, wir würden Trübsal haben müssen; wie denn auch geschehen ist, und ihr wisset.
   (And there we/us at you were, saidn wir‘s you zuvor, we/us würden Trübsal have müssen; like because also geschehen is, and you/their/her wisset.)

ClVgNam et cum apud vos essemus, prædicebamus vobis passuros nos tribulationes, sicut et factum est, et scitis.
   (Nam and when/with apud you essemus, prædicebamus to_you passuros we tribulationes, like and done it_is, and scitis. )

UGNTκαὶ γὰρ ὅτε πρὸς ὑμᾶς ἦμεν, προελέγομεν ὑμῖν ὅτι μέλλομεν θλίβεσθαι, καθὼς καὶ ἐγένετο καὶ οἴδατε.
   (kai gar hote pros humas aʸmen, proelegomen humin hoti mellomen thlibesthai, kathōs kai egeneto kai oidate.)

SBL-GNTκαὶ γὰρ ὅτε πρὸς ὑμᾶς ἦμεν, προελέγομεν ὑμῖν ὅτι μέλλομεν θλίβεσθαι, καθὼς καὶ ἐγένετο καὶ οἴδατε.
   (kai gar hote pros humas aʸmen, proelegomen humin hoti mellomen thlibesthai, kathōs kai egeneto kai oidate.)

TC-GNTΚαὶ γὰρ ὅτε πρὸς ὑμᾶς ἦμεν, προελέγομεν ὑμῖν ὅτι μέλλομεν θλίβεσθαι, καθὼς καὶ ἐγένετο καὶ οἴδατε.
   (Kai gar hote pros humas aʸmen, proelegomen humin hoti mellomen thlibesthai, kathōs kai egeneto kai oidate. )

Key for above GNTs: yellow:punctuation differs (from our SR-GNT base).


TSNTyndale Study Notes:

3:1-5 After preaching in Berea, Paul had departed from Macedonia and sailed to Athens, instructing Silas and Timothy to join him soon (Acts 17:13-15). Timothy returned to Thessalonica (1 Thes 3:2), as Paul’s anxiety for the Thessalonian church had intensified (3:1, 5).


UTNuW Translation Notes:

Note 1 topic: grammar-connect-logic-result

καὶ γὰρ

also for

Here, the phrase For also introduces another reason why the Thessalonians should “not be disturbed by these afflictions” (see 3:3). If it would be helpful in your language, you could use a word or phrase that introduces another reason for a claim. Alternate translation: [Another reason why you should not be disturbed is that] or [Further,]

Note 2 topic: figures-of-speech / exclusive

πρὸς ὑμᾶς ἦμεν, προελέγομεν ὑμῖν ὅτι μέλλομεν

with you_all ˱we˲_were ˱we˲_/were/_previously_saying ˱to˲_you_all that ˱we˲_/are/_going

Here, the word we in the clauses we were with you and we were telling you only includes Paul and his fellow workers. It does not include the Thessalonians. However, the word we in the clause we are about to suffer affliction does include the Thessalonians. Make sure that this is clear if your language marks these distinctions.

Note 3 topic: figures-of-speech / quotations

προελέγομεν ὑμῖν ὅτι μέλλομεν θλίβεσθαι, καθὼς

˱we˲_/were/_previously_saying ˱to˲_you_all that ˱we˲_/are/_going /to_be_being/_oppressed as

It may be more natural in your language to have a direct quotation here. Alternate translation: [we were telling you in advance, ‘We are about to be afflicted,’ just as]

Note 4 topic: figures-of-speech / activepassive

μέλλομεν θλίβεσθαι

˱we˲_/are/_going /to_be_being/_oppressed

If your language does not use this passive form, you could express the idea in active form or in another way that is natural in your language. If you need to say who did the action, you could use an indefinite subject. Alternate translation: [people are about to afflict us]

Note 5 topic: figures-of-speech / explicit

ἐγένετο καὶ οἴδατε

˱it˲_became and ˱you_all˲_/have/_known

Here Paul means that what he and his fellow workers told the Thessalonians would happen did indeed happen, and the Thessalonians know it. If it would be helpful in your language, you could make it more explicit that the Thessalonians know that the afflictions happened. Alternate translation: [it happened, which you know]

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