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OET (OET-RV) So this is what we’re saying in the message about the master: those who are still living when the master returns, we certainly won’t precede those who’ve already died
OET-LV For/Because this to_you_all we_are_saying in the_message of_the_master, that we the ones living, which being_remaining to the coming of_the master, by_no_means not may_precede the ones having_been_fallen_asleep.
SR-GNT Τοῦτο γὰρ ὑμῖν λέγομεν ἐν λόγῳ ˚Κυρίου, ὅτι ἡμεῖς οἱ ζῶντες, οἱ περιλειπόμενοι εἰς τὴν παρουσίαν τοῦ ˚Κυρίου, οὐ μὴ φθάσωμεν τοὺς κοιμηθέντας. ‡
(Touto gar humin legomen en logōi ˚Kuriou, hoti haʸmeis hoi zōntes, hoi perileipomenoi eis taʸn parousian tou ˚Kuriou, ou maʸ fthasōmen tous koimaʸthentas.)
Key: khaki:verbs, light-green:nominative/subject, orange:accusative/object, pink:genitive/possessor, cyan:dative/indirect object, red:negative.
Note: Automatic aligning of the OET-RV to the LV is done by some temporary software, hence the OET-RV alignments are incomplete (and may occasionally be wrong).
ULT For this we say to you in a word of the Lord, that we, the ones living, the ones surviving to the coming of the Lord, will certainly not go before the ones having slept.
UST In fact, what we apostles are now telling you is a message from the Lord Jesus himself. When the Lord Jesus comes again, all believers in the Messiah will greet him. First, those believers in the Messiah who have already died will certainly greet him, and then we believers in the Messiah who are still alive.
BSB § By the word of the Lord, we declare to you that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who have fallen asleep.
BLB For this we declare to you in the word of the Lord, that we the living, remaining unto the coming of the Lord, shall not precede those having fallen asleep,
AICNT For this we declare to you by a word from the Lord, that we who are alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep.
OEB This we tell you on the authority of the Lord – that those of us who are still living at the coming of the Lord will not anticipate those who have passed to their rest.
WEBBE For this we tell you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will in no way precede those who have fallen asleep.
WMBB (Same as above)
MSG (15-18)And then this: We can tell you with complete confidence—we have the Master’s word on it—that when the Master comes again to get us, those of us who are still alive will not get a jump on the dead and leave them behind. In actual fact, they’ll be ahead of us. The Master himself will give the command. Archangel thunder! God’s trumpet blast! He’ll come down from heaven and the dead in Christ will rise—they’ll go first. Then the rest of us who are still alive at the time will be caught up with them into the clouds to meet the Master. Oh, we’ll be walking on air! And then there will be one huge family reunion with the Master. So reassure one another with these words.
NET For we tell you this by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will surely not go ahead of those who have fallen asleep.
LSV for we say this to you in the word of the LORD, that we who are living—who remain over to the coming of the LORD—may not precede those asleep,
FBV What we're telling you comes from the Lord: those of us who are alive and still here when the Lord comes certainly won't precede those who have died.
TCNT According to the word of the Lord, we declare to you that we who are alive, who are left behind until the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep.
T4T I write this because the Lord Jesus revealed to me what I am now telling you. Some of you may think that when the Lord Jesus comes back, he will consider that we believers who are still living will be superior to those believers who have died [EUP], because we will meet Jesus first. That is certainly not true!
LEB For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive, who remain until the Lord’s coming, will not possibly precede those who have fallen asleep.
BBE For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are still living at the coming of the Lord, will not go before those who are sleeping.
Moff No Moff 1TH book available
Wymth For this we declare to you on the Lord's own authority—that we who are alive and continue on earth until the Coming of the Lord, shall certainly not forestall those who shall have previously passed away.
ASV For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we that are alive, that are left unto the coming of the Lord, shall in no wise precede them that are fallen asleep.
DRA For the Lord himself shall come down from heaven with commandment, and with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God: and the dead who are in Christ, shall rise first.
YLT for this to you we say in the word of the Lord, that we who are living — who do remain over to the presence of the Lord — may not precede those asleep,
Drby (For this we say to you in [the] word of [the] Lord, that we, the living, who remain to the coming of the Lord, are in no way to anticipate those who have fallen asleep;
RV For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we that are alive, that are left unto the coming of the Lord, shall in no wise precede them that are fallen asleep.
Wbstr For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain to the coming of the Lord shall not precede them who are asleep.
KJB-1769 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
KJB-1611 For this we say vnto you by the word of the Lord, That we which are aliue and remaine vnto the comming of the Lord, shall not preuent them which are asleepe.
(For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, That we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord, shall not prevent them which are asleepe.)
Bshps For this say we vnto you in the worde of the Lorde, that we whiche lyue, remayning vnto the comyng of the Lord, shall not preuent them which sleepe.
(For this say we unto you in the word of the Lord, that we which live, remaining unto the commong of the Lord, shall not prevent them which sleep.)
Gnva For this say we vnto you by the worde of the Lord, that we which liue, and are remayning in the comming of the Lord, shall not preuent them which sleepe.
(For this say we unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which live, and are remaining in the coming of the Lord, shall not prevent them which sleep. )
Cvdl For this we saye vnto you in the worde of the LORDE, that we which lyue and are remaynynge in the comynge of the LORDE, shal not come yer they which slepe.
(For this we say unto you in the word of the LORD, that we which live and are remaining in the coming of the LORD, shall not come yer they which sleep.)
TNT And this saye we vnto you in the worde of the Lorde that we which live and are remayninge in the comminge of the Lorde shall not come yerre they which slepe.
(And this say we unto you in the word of the Lord that we which live and are remaining in the cominge of the Lord shall not come yerre they which sleep. )
Wyc For the Lord hym silf schal come doun fro heuene, in the comaundement, and in the vois of an archaungel, and in the trumpe of God; and the deed men that ben in Crist, schulen rise ayen first.
(For the Lord himself shall come down from heaven, in the commandment, and in the voice of an archangel, and in the trumpe of God; and the dead men that been in Christ, should rise again first.)
Luth Denn das sagen wir euch als ein Wort des HErr’s, daß wir, die wir leben und überbleiben in der Zukunft des HErr’s, werden denen nicht zuvorkommen, die da schlafen
(Because the say we/us you als a Wort the LORD’s, that wir, the we/us life and überbleiben in the/of_the Zukunft the LORD’s, become denen not zuvorkommen, the there sleep)
ClVg Hoc enim vobis dicimus in verbo Domini, quia nos, qui vivimus, qui residui sumus in adventum Domini, non præveniemus eos qui dormierunt.[fn]
(This because to_you dicimus in verbo Master, because we, who vivimus, who residui sumus in adventum Master, not/no præveniemus them who dormierunt. )
4.15 Quoniam ipse Dominus. In propria persona. In tuba Dei. ANSELM. Hæc tuba omnes excitabit et inimicos terrebit, suos ad bellum invitabit, ut expugnent adversarios, et effugiant a facie Domini atque mittantur in gehennam. Et iterum sicut tuba quondam in festis convocabat populum Hebræorum: sic hæc tuba convocabit ad solemnitatem æternæ lætitiæ populum sanctorum Deo, inquit, jubente et voce archangeli atque tuba Dei sonante. Descendet. Non humilis ut prius, sed jubens voce, vel sui ipsius vel archangeli, vel angelorum qua faciet resurgere mortuos quæ dicitur tuba, quia manifesta, vel quasi ad bellum, quæ erit Dei et Christi, cui Deus dabit efficaciam.
4.15 Quoniam himself Master. In propria persona. In tuba of_God. ANSELM. This tuba everyone excitabit and inimicos terrebit, suos to bellum invitabit, as expugnent adversarios, and effugiant from face Master atque mittantur in gehennam. And again like tuba quondam in festis convocabat the_people Hebræorum: so these_things tuba convocabit to solemnitatem æternæ lætitiæ the_people sanctorum Deo, inquit, yubente and voce archangeli atque tuba of_God sonante. Descendet. Non humilis as first/before, but yubens voce, or sui ipsius or archangeli, or angelorum which faciet resurgere mortuos which it_is_said tuba, because manifesta, or as_if to bellum, which will_be of_God and of_Christ, cui God dabit efficaciam.
UGNT τοῦτο γὰρ ὑμῖν λέγομεν ἐν λόγῳ Κυρίου, ὅτι ἡμεῖς οἱ ζῶντες, οἱ περιλειπόμενοι εἰς τὴν παρουσίαν τοῦ Κυρίου, οὐ μὴ φθάσωμεν τοὺς κοιμηθέντας;
(touto gar humin legomen en logōi Kuriou, hoti haʸmeis hoi zōntes, hoi perileipomenoi eis taʸn parousian tou Kuriou, ou maʸ fthasōmen tous koimaʸthentas;)
SBL-GNT τοῦτο γὰρ ὑμῖν λέγομεν ἐν λόγῳ κυρίου, ὅτι ἡμεῖς οἱ ζῶντες οἱ περιλειπόμενοι εἰς τὴν παρουσίαν τοῦ κυρίου οὐ μὴ φθάσωμεν τοὺς κοιμηθέντας·
(touto gar humin legomen en logōi kuriou, hoti haʸmeis hoi zōntes hoi perileipomenoi eis taʸn parousian tou kuriou ou maʸ fthasōmen tous koimaʸthentas;)
TC-GNT Τοῦτο γὰρ ὑμῖν λέγομεν ἐν λόγῳ Κυρίου, ὅτι ἡμεῖς οἱ ζῶντες οἱ περιλειπόμενοι εἰς τὴν παρουσίαν τοῦ Κυρίου, οὐ μὴ φθάσωμεν τοὺς κοιμηθέντας.
(Touto gar humin legomen en logōi Kuriou, hoti haʸmeis hoi zōntes hoi perileipomenoi eis taʸn parousian tou Kuriou, ou maʸ fthasōmen tous koimaʸthentas. )
Key for above GNTs: yellow:punctuation differs (from our SR-GNT base).
4:15 directly from the Lord: Jesus’ own teaching provided the source of Paul’s assurance for the Thessalonians (see Matt 24:29-31, 40-41)
• not . . . ahead: Paul wants the Thessalonians to know that, when the Lord returns, the dead will not be at a disadvantage but will participate equally in the resurrection.
• In referring to Jesus’ coming, Paul uses a Greek term (parousia) commonly used to describe the coming of the emperor to a city with great pomp and celebration (see 1 Thes 4:17).
Note 1 topic: grammar-connect-words-phrases
γὰρ
for
Here, the word For introduces a further explanation of what Paul has said about believers who have died. If it would be helpful in your language, you could use a word or phrase that introduces a further explanation, or you could leave For untranslated. Alternate translation: “Further,” or “Indeed,”
Note 2 topic: writing-pronouns
τοῦτο & ὑμῖν λέγομεν ἐν λόγῳ Κυρίου, ὅτι
this & ˱to˲_you_all ˱we˲_/are/_saying in /the/_word ˱of˲_/the/_Lord that
Here, the word this refers to what Paul introduces with the word that. This form emphasizes what Paul is about to say. If it would be helpful in your language, you could use a different form that introduces what a person is about to say. Alternate translation: “we say to you in a word of the Lord that” or “here is what we say to you in a word of the Lord:”
Note 3 topic: figures-of-speech / exclusive
λέγομεν & ἡμεῖς οἱ ζῶντες
˱we˲_/are/_saying & we the_‹ones› living
Here, the word we in the phrase we say only includes Paul and his fellow workers. It does not include the Thessalonians. However, the word we in the phrase we, the ones living does include the Thessalonians. Make sure that this is clear if your language marks these distinctions.
Note 4 topic: figures-of-speech / metonymy
λόγῳ
/the/_word
Paul is using the term word to mean a message that is shared by using words. If it would be helpful in your language, you could state the meaning plainly. Alternate translation: “a message” or “words”
Note 5 topic: figures-of-speech / possession
λόγῳ Κυρίου
/the/_word ˱of˲_/the/_Lord
Here, Paul is using the possessive form to describe a word that could be: (1) something that the Lord said. Alternate translation: “a word from the Lord” or “a word spoken by the Lord” (2) authorized by the Lord. Alternate translation: “a word that the Lord approves” or “a word that has the Lord’s authority”
Note 6 topic: figures-of-speech / distinguish
ἡμεῖς οἱ ζῶντες, οἱ περιλειπόμενοι
we the_‹ones› living ¬which /being/_remaining
Here, the phrases the ones living and the ones surviving distinguish we from other people. Be sure that this distinction is clear in your translation. Alternate translation: “we, by which I mean those of us who live, who survive”
Note 7 topic: figures-of-speech / explicit
εἰς τὴν παρουσίαν τοῦ Κυρίου
to the coming ˱of˲_the Lord
Here, the phrase the coming of the Lord refers to the specific time in the future when Jesus will come back to earth, judge everyone, punish unbelievers, and reward believers. If it would be helpful in your language, you could make this idea more explicit. See how you translated the similar phrase in 3:13. Alternate translation: “until when the Lord comes back to earth” or “to the return of our Lord to us”
Note 8 topic: figures-of-speech / doublenegatives
οὐ μὴ φθάσωμεν
by_no_means not /may/_precede
The words translated certainly not are two negative words. In this construction, the second negative does not cancel the first to create a positive meaning. Instead, it gives greater emphasis to the negative. If your language can use two negatives that do not cancel one another to create a positive meaning, you could use a double negative here. If your language does not use two negatives in that way, you could translate with one strong negative, as the ULT does. Alternate translation: “will by no means go before”
Note 9 topic: figures-of-speech / explicit
οὐ μὴ φθάσωμεν
by_no_means not /may/_precede
Here, the phrase will certainly not go before indicates that people who are alive when Jesus comes back will not meet him first. Instead, believers who have died will meet him first, and then believers who are alive will meet him. Paul explains this further in the following verse (see 4:16). If it would be helpful in your language, you could make this idea more explicit. Alternate translation: “will certainly not go to Jesus before” or “will certainly not be with Jesus before”
Note 10 topic: figures-of-speech / euphemism
τοὺς κοιμηθέντας
the_‹ones› /having_been/_fallen_asleep
See how you translated the similar phrase in 4:13–14. Alternate translation: “the ones having passed away” or “the ones who are dead”