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Parallel ECC 9:5

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Text critical issues=none Clarity of original=clearImportance=normal(All still tentative.)

OET (OET-RV)
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OET-LVIf/because the_life [are]_knowing that_die and_the_dead not_they [are]_knowing anything and_no still to/for_them a_reward if/because it_is_forgotten memory_them.

UHBכִּ֧י הַֽ⁠חַיִּ֛ים יוֹדְעִ֖ים שֶׁ⁠יָּמֻ֑תוּ וְ⁠הַ⁠מֵּתִ֞ים אֵינָ֧⁠ם יוֹדְעִ֣ים מְא֗וּמָה וְ⁠אֵֽין־ע֤וֹד לָ⁠הֶם֙ שָׂכָ֔ר כִּ֥י נִשְׁכַּ֖ח זִכְרָֽ⁠ם׃
   (kiy ha⁠ḩayyim yōdəˊim she⁠yyāmutū və⁠ha⁠mmētim ʼēynā⁠m yōdəˊim məʼūmāh və⁠ʼēyn-ˊōd lā⁠hem sākār kiy nishkaḩ zikrā⁠m.)

Key: khaki:verbs, red:negative.
Note: Automatic aligning of the OET-RV to the LV is done by some temporary software, hence the OET-RV alignments are incomplete (and may occasionally be wrong).

BrLXXὍτι οἱ ζῶντες γνώσονται ὅτι ἀποθανοῦνται, καὶ οἱ νεκροὶ οὐκ εἰσὶ γινώσκοντες οὐδέν· καὶ οὐκ ἔστιν αὐτοῖς ἔτι μισθὸς, ὅτι ἐπελήσθη ἡ μνήμη αὐτῶν.
   (Hoti hoi zōntes gnōsontai hoti apothanountai, kai hoi nekroi ouk eisi ginōskontes ouden; kai ouk estin autois eti misthos, hoti epelaʸsthaʸ haʸ mnaʸmaʸ autōn. )

BrTrFor the living will know that they shall die: but the dead know nothing, and there is no longer any reward to them; for their memory is lost.

ULTFor the living know that they will die, but the dead, they are not knowing anything, and there is no longer for them a reward, because their memory is forgotten.

USTWe who are alive know that some day we will die,
 ⇔ but dead people do not know anything.
 ⇔ Dead people do not receive any more rewards,
 ⇔ and people soon forget them.

BSBFor the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing. They have no further reward, because the memory of them is forgotten.


OEBbetter than a dead lion- for the living know at least that they have to die, but the dead have no knowledge at all, and no further reward is possible

CSB For the living know that they will die, but the dead don’t know anything. There is no longer a reward for them because the memory of them is forgotten.

NLT The living at least know they will die, but the dead know nothing. They have no further reward, nor are they remembered.

NIV For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing; they have no further reward, and even their name is forgotten.

CEV We know we will die, but the dead don't know a thing. Nothing good will happen to them--they are gone and forgotten.

ESV For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing, and they have no more reward, for the memory of them is forgotten.

NASB For the living know they will die; but the dead do not know anything, nor have they any longer a reward, for their memory is forgotten.

LSB For the living know they will die; but the dead do not know anything, nor have they any longer a reward, for the memory of them is forgotten.

WEBBEFor the living know that they will die, but the dead don’t know anything, neither do they have any more a reward; for their memory is forgotten.

WMBB (Same as above)

MSG(4-6)Still, anyone selected out for life has hope, for, as they say, “A living dog is better than a dead lion.” The living at least know something, even if it’s only that they’re going to die. But the dead know nothing and get nothing. They’re a minus that no one remembers. Their loves, their hates, yes, even their dreams, are long gone. There’s not a trace of them left in the affairs of this earth.

NETFor the living know that they will die, but the dead do not know anything;
 ⇔ they have no further reward – and even the memory of them disappears.

LSVFor the living know that they die, and the dead do not know anything, and there is no more reward to them, for their remembrance has been forgotten.

FBVThe living are conscious of the fact that they're going to die, but the dead have no consciousness of anything. They don't receive any further benefit; they're forgotten.

T4TWe who are alive know that some day we will die,
 ⇔ but dead people do not know anything.
 ⇔ Dead people do not receive any more rewards,
 ⇔ and people soon forget them.

LEBFor the living know that they will die, but the dead do not know anything. They no longer have a reward, and even the memory of them is forgotten.

NRSV The living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing; they have no more reward, and even the memory of them is lost.

NKJV For the living know that they will die; But the dead know nothing, And they have no more reward, For the memory of them is forgotten.

NAB For the living know that they are to die, but the dead no longer know anything. There is no further recompense for them, because all memory of them is lost.

BBEThe living are conscious that death will come to them, but the dead are not conscious of anything, and they no longer have a reward, because there is no memory of them.

MoffNo Moff ECC book available

JPSFor the living know that they shall die; but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.

ASVFor the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not anything, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.

DRAFor the living know that they shall die, but the dead know nothing more, neither have they a reward any more: for the memory of them is forgotten.

YLTFor the living know that they die, and the dead know not anything, and there is no more to them a reward, for their remembrance hath been forgotten.

DrbyFor the living know that they shall die; but the dead know not anything, neither have they any more a reward, for the memory of them is forgotten.

RVFor the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.

WbstrFor the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.

KJB-1769For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.
   (For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not anything, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. )

KJB-1611For the liuing know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither haue they any more a reward, for the memorie of them is forgotten.
   (For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not anything, neither have they any more a reward, for the memorie of them is forgotten.)

BshpsFor they that be liuing knowe that they shall dye: but they that be dead knowe nothing, neither deserue they any more, for their memoriall is forgotten.
   (For they that be living know that they shall dye: but they that be dead know nothing, neither deserue they any more, for their memoriall is forgotten.)

GnvaFor the liuing knowe that they shall dye, but the dead knowe nothing at all: neither haue they any more a rewarde: for their remembrance is forgotten.
   (For the living know that they shall dye, but the dead know nothing at all: neither have they any more a rewarde: for their remembrance is forgotten. )

Cvdlfor they that be lyuynge, knowe yt they shall dye: but they yt be deed, knowe nothinge, nether deserue they eny more. For their memoriall is forgotte,
   (for they that be living, know it they shall dye: but they it be dead, know nothing, neither deserue they any more. For their memoriall is forgotte,)

WyclFor thei that lyuen witen that thei schulen die; but deed men knowen no thing more, nether han meede ferthere; for her mynde is youun to foryetyng.
   (For they that lyuen perceive that they should die; but dead men known no thing more, neither have meede ferthere; for her mind is given to foryetyng.)

LuthDenn die Lebendigen wissen, daß sie sterben werden; die Toten aber wissen nichts, sie verdienen auch nichts mehr, denn ihr Gedächtnis ist vergessen,
   (Because the Lebendigen wissen, that they/she/them die become; the Toten but wissen nothing, they/she/them verdienen also nothing mehr, because you/their/her Gedächtnis is vergessen,)

ClVgViventes enim sciunt se esse morituros; mortui vero nihil noverunt amplius, nec habent ultra mercedem, quia oblivioni tradita est memoria eorum.[fn]
   (Viventes because sciunt se esse morituros; mortui vero nihil noverunt amplius, but_not habent ultra mercedem, because oblivioni tradita it_is memoria their. )


9.5 Mortui vero. ID. Quidam asserunt etiam post mortem crescere, etc., usque ad creaturas rationales et promereri.


9.5 Mortui vero. ID. Quidam asserunt also after mortem crescere, etc., until to creaturas rationales and promereri.


TSNTyndale Study Notes:

9:4-6 The hope for enjoyment is only as alive as the one who is hoping. In this sense, it is better to be alive (cp. 6:3; 7:1).


UTNuW Translation Notes:

Note 1 topic: figures-of-speech / nominaladj

(Occurrence 0) the dead

(Some words not found in UHB: that/for/because/then/when the=life know that,die and,the,dead not,they know anything and,no again/more to/for=them reward that/for/because/then/when forgotten memory,them )

This refers to people who are dead. Alternate translation: “those who are dead”

Note 2 topic: figures-of-speech / activepassive

(Occurrence 0) their memory is forgotten

(Some words not found in UHB: that/for/because/then/when the=life know that,die and,the,dead not,they know anything and,no again/more to/for=them reward that/for/because/then/when forgotten memory,them )

If your language does not use the passive form in this way, you can state this in active form or in another way that is natural in your language. Alternate translation: “people will forget them”

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