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Parallel MIC 4:12

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BI Mic 4:12 ©

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OET (OET-RV)But those enemies don’t know Yahweh’s thoughts,
 ⇔ ≈ and they don’t understand his plans,
 ⇔ because he’s gathered them up like bundles of grain ready to be broken on the threshing floor.OET logo mark

OET-LVAnd_they not they_know the_thoughts_of YHWH and_not they_understand counsel_of_his if/because_that he_has_gathered_them like_(the)_grain threshing_floor_to_the.
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UHBוְ⁠הֵ֗מָּה לֹ֤א יָֽדְעוּ֙ מַחְשְׁב֣וֹת יְהוָ֔ה וְ⁠לֹ֥א הֵבִ֖ינוּ עֲצָת֑⁠וֹ כִּ֥י קִבְּצָ֖⁠ם כֶּ⁠עָמִ֥יר גֹּֽרְנָ⁠ה׃
   (və⁠hēmmāh loʼ yādəˊū maḩshəⱱōt yhwh və⁠loʼ hēⱱinū ˊₐʦāt⁠ō kiy qibʦā⁠m ke⁠ˊāmir gornā⁠h.)

Key: khaki:verbs, red:negative, green:YHWH.
Note: Automatic aligning of the OET-RV to the LV is done by some temporary software, hence the OET-RV alignments are incomplete (and may occasionally be wrong).

BrLXXΑὐτοὶ δὲ οὐκ ἔγνωσαν τὸν λογισμὸν Κυρίου, καὶ οὐ συνῆκαν τὴν βουλὴν αὐτοῦ, ὅτι συνήγαγεν αὐτοὺς ὡς δράγματα ἅλωνος.
   (Autoi de ouk egnōsan ton logismon Kuriou, kai ou sunaʸkan taʸn boulaʸn autou, hoti sunaʸgagen autous hōs dragmata halōnos. )

BrTrBut they know not the thought of the Lord, and have not understood his counsel: for he has gathered them as sheaves of the floor.

ULTAnd they do not know the thoughts of Yahweh
 ⇔ neither do they understand his plans,
 ⇔ for he has gathered them like bundles of grain prepared for the threshing floor.

USTThe prophet says, they do not know what Yahweh thinks;
 ⇔ and they do not understand what he is planning.
 ⇔ He will gather them and punish them
 ⇔ as farmers thresh grain on the ground.

BSBBut they do not know the thoughts of the LORD
 ⇔ or understand His plan,
 ⇔ for He has gathered them
 ⇔ like sheaves to the threshing floor.

MSB (Same as BSB above)


OEBBut they do not know the thoughts of the Lord.
 ⇔ They do not understand his plan,
 ⇔ for he has gathered them like sheaves for the threshing floor.

WEBBEBut they don’t know the thoughts of the LORD,
 ⇔ neither do they understand his counsel;
 ⇔ for he has gathered them like the sheaves to the threshing floor.

WMBB (Same as above)

NETBut they do not know what the Lord is planning;
 ⇔ they do not understand his strategy.
 ⇔ He has gathered them like stalks of grain to be threshed at the threshing floor.

LSVThey have not known the thoughts of YHWH,
Nor have they understood His counsel,
For He has gathered them as a sheaf [into] a threshing-floor.

FBVBut they don't know what the Lord is thinking, and don't understand what he is planning. He has brought them together like bundles of grain to the threshing floor.

T4TBut they do not know what I, Yahweh, think,
 ⇔ and they do not understand what I plan:
 ⇔ I will gather them and punish them
 ⇔ like [SIM] farmers thresh grain on the ground.

LEB   • But they do not know the thoughts of Yahweh, and they do not understand his plan,
 •  that he has gathered them as sheaves
  •  to his threshing floor.

BBEBut they have no knowledge of the thoughts of the Lord, their minds are not able to see his purpose: for he has got them together like stems of grain to the crushing-floor.

Mofflittle they know the Eternal’s plan,
 ⇔ little they understand how he
 ⇔ is gathering them as sheaves for threshing.

JPSBut they know not the thoughts of the LORD, neither understand they His counsel; for He hath gathered them as the sheaves to the threshing-floor.

ASVBut they know not the thoughts of Jehovah, neither understand they his counsel; for he hath gathered them as the sheaves to the threshing-floor.

DRABut they have not known the thoughts of the Lord, and have not understood his counsel: because he hath gathered them together as the hay of the floor.

YLTThey have not known the thoughts of Jehovah, Nor have they understood His counsel, For He hath gathered them as a sheaf [into] a threshing-floor.

DrbyBut they know not the thoughts of Jehovah, neither understand they his counsel; for he hath gathered them together as the sheaves into the threshing-floor.

RVBut they know not the thoughts of the LORD, neither understand they his counsel: for he hath gathered them as the sheaves to the threshingfloor.
   (But they know not the thoughts of the LORD, neither understand they his council/counsel: for he hath/has gathered them as the sheaves to the threshing-floor. )

SLTAnd they knew not the purposes of Jehovah, and they understood not his counsel for he gathered them as sheaves of the threshing-floor.

WbstrBut they know not the thoughts of the LORD, neither understand they his counsel: for he will gather them as sheaves into the floor.

KJB-1769But they know not the thoughts of the LORD, neither understand they his counsel: for he shall gather them as the sheaves into the floor.
   (But they know not the thoughts of the LORD, neither understand they his council/counsel: for he shall gather them as the sheaves into the floor. )

KJB-1611But they know not the thoughts of the LORD, neither vnderstand they his counsell: for hee shall gather them as the sheaues into the floore.
   (Modernised spelling is same as from KJB-1769 above)

BshpsBut they know not the thoughtes of the Lord, they vnderstand not his counsel: for he shall gather them together as the sheaues in the barne.
   (But they know not the thoughts of the Lord, they understand not his council/counsel: for he shall gather them together as the sheaves in the barn.)

GnvaBut they knowe not the thoughtes of the Lord: they vnderstand not his counsell, for he shall gather them as the sheaues in the barne.
   (But they know not the thoughts of the Lord: they understand not his council/counsel, for he shall gather them as the sheaves in the barn. )

CvdlBut they knowe not the thoughtes off the LORDE, they vnderstonde not his councell, that shall gather them together as the sheeues in the barne.
   (But they know not the thoughts off the LORD, they understood not his councell, that shall gather them together as the sheeues in the barn.)

WyclForsothe thei knewen not the thouytis of the Lord, and vndurstoden not the councel of hym, for he gaderide hem as the hei of feeld.
   (For_certain/Truly they knew not the thoughts of the Lord, and understood not the council/counsel of him, for he gathered hem as the hei of field.)

LuthAber sie wissen des HErr’s Gedanken nicht und merken seinen Ratschlag nicht, daß er sie zuhauf gebracht hat wie Garben auf der Tenne.
   (But they/she/them realise the LORD’s mind/thoughts not and remember/realise his Ratschlag not, that he they/she/them in_abundance brought has as/like sheaves on/in/to the/of_the Tenne.)

ClVgIpsi autem non cognoverunt cogitationes Domini, et non intellexerunt consilium ejus, quia congregavit eos quasi fœnum areæ.
   (Himself however not/no they_knew thoughts Master, and not/no they_understood advice his, because gathered them as_if grass areæ. )


HAPHebrew accents and phrasing: See Allan Johnson's Hebrew accents and phrasing analysis.

TSNTyndale Study Notes:

4:12 God reveals his plans to his servants (Dan 2:19-23; Amos 3:7), but the nations don’t know—they are not privy to God’s great plans or to his behind-the-scenes activity on his people’s behalf. The hopes and plans of the nations around Israel were in vain—the Lord’s plans for his unique people will prevail, and he will rule the nations (Gen 12:1-3; 15:12-21; Exod 19:4-6; Isa 45:23; 66:23).
• At the threshing floor, grain was beaten and trampled to separate it from the chaff. So, too, the nations will be crushed (Mic 4:13).


SOTNSIL Open Translator’s Notes:

Section 4:9–13: The people of Jerusalem will suffer exile in Babylon, but in the future the LORD will deliver them from their enemies

In this section, the LORD spoke about the future. He said that he would punish his people. He would cause their enemies to take them as captives to Babylon. But the LORD also promised that in the future he would regather his people. He would make them a strong nation, and he would rule over them.Scholars analyze the structure of 4:9–5:15 in different ways. The Notes will list only a few of the analyses here; some of them have only minor variations. A&F (page 394) posit five sections, each beginning with ʿaṯṯâ “now” (4:9–10a, 10b, 11–13, 14; 5:1–3) [5:4–5, 6, 7–9, 10–15]. In this analysis, 4:11–13 forms the center unit, with two units on either side. WBC (vol. 32, pages 11–12) has 4:9–10,11–13; 5:1–4, 5–6, 7–9, 10–15. NICOT (page 257), NAC (page 42) and Waltke 2007 (page viii) have 4:9–10, 11–13; 5:1–6, 7–9, 10–15. TOTC (page 150) and Waltke 1993 (page 598) has 4:9–13; 5:1–6, 7–9, 10–15.

In this section, as in the previous section, Micah quoted the words of the LORD and also sometimes referred to the LORD in the third person.

The Notes have divided this section into two paragraphs. If a separate paragraph heading will be helpful for your readers, here are some possible headings for each paragraph.

9–10Why the Israelites Must Go to Babylon (NCV)

9–10Current suffering and captivity, but future rescue

11–13Her Enemies to Be Crushed on the Threshing-Floor (NJB)

11–13Jerusalem will completely destroy its enemies

Paragraph 4:11–13

In this paragraph, Micah told the people of Jerusalem that people of many nations had gathered together to attack Jerusalem. But actually, the LORD had a different plan. He had gathered those nations together to punish those nations. He would make his people strong so they could defeat their enemies.

In 4:11–12, Micah used a Hebrew verb tense that usually refers to events that have already happened or that are now happening.The verbs that are in perfect tense in 4:11–12 are: “have assembled” (11a), “saying” (11b), “know” (12a), “understand” (12a), and “has gathered” (12b).

Throughout this paragraph (4:11–13), Micah wrote as if many nations had already assembled to attack Jerusalem. But the time period to which he referred has similar uncertainties to 4:9b–c. See the notes on those verse parts. The recommendation here is the same: translate in a way that allows either a present time or a future time to be understood.

4:12

Verse 12 begins with an emphatic contrast: “But they….” In verse 11 Micah spoke about what foreign enemies planned to do to Jerusalem. Here in verse 12, he spoke about what the LORD planned to do.

Those enemies had gathered together to attack Jerusalem. That was their plan. But the LORD had a different plan: the LORD allowed those people to gather together in order to punish them.

The first two lines in this verse are parallel. Notice the parallel parts in 4:12a–b that are similar in meaning:

12aBut they do not know the thoughts of the LORD,

12bor understand His plan,

Verse 4:12c explains the content of the “thoughts/plan of the LORD”:

12cfor He has gathered them like sheaves to the threshing floor.

4:12a

But they do not know the thoughts of the LORD

But they: The words But they introduce an emphatic contrast.In Hebrew, this contrast is indicated by the conjunction wǝ- and the emphatic independent pronoun hemmah “they.” The plan of the foreign enemies was to defeat and humiliate the city of Zion and its inhabitants (4:11b–c). By contrast, the plan of the LORD was to punish these enemies (4:12c). A few versions do not indicate this contrast explicitly. Indicate the emphatic contrast in a natural way in your language.

do not know the thoughts of the LORD: The word thoughts refers to what the LORD is thinking. Specifically, it refers here to what he is planning in his mind to do. Here are some other ways to translate this verse part:

But they don’t know what the Lord is thinking (NCV)

But these nations do not know what is in the Lord’s mind. (GNT)

4:12b

or understand His plan,

or understand His plan: The word plan refers here to what the LORD has decided/determined to do. Here are some other ways to translate this verse part:

they do not understand his design (NJB)

they do not understand his strategy (NET)

and they do not understand His purpose (NASB)

4:12c

for He has gathered them like sheaves to the threshing floor.

for He has gathered them like sheaves to the threshing floor: There are two ways to interpret the Hebrew word ki (BSB for) that begins this verse part:

  1. Micah used this word to identify the content of the LORD’s plan. Most versions translate it with the word “that” or leave it implied.

    These nations don’t know that he is gathering them together to be beaten and trampled like sheaves of grain on a threshing floor. (NLT)

    He has gathered them like bundles of grain to the threshing floor. (NCV) (CEV, ESV, GW, NCV, NET, NJB, NLT, NRSV, GNT)

  2. A few versions translate it as for. Micah used this word to explain what Jerusalem’s enemies do not understand. For example:

    For He has gathered them like sheaves to the threshing floor. (NASB) (BSB, NASB, KJV, REB)

It is recommended that you follow interpretation (1) along with most English versions. Almost no commentaries discuss this issue. Only one commentary supports interpretation (2).KD (page 319) says that ki means “for:” “The sentence explains the assertion that they do not understand the counsel of the Lord.” Waltke 2007 (page 254) translates ki as “surely,” and identifies it as “an emphatic causal adverb.” WBC (page 41) does not comment, but his translation supports the NRSV and the strong majority of English versions.

He has gathered them like sheaves to the threshing floor: The pronoun He refers to the LORD. The pronoun them refers to the soldiers of “many nations” who have gathered.

Micah used a simile here. He compared what the LORD did to what people do when they gather sheaves of grain to thresh them. There are at least two points of similarity:

  1. The LORD gathered the nations to fulfill his own plans. People gather sheaves of grain in order to thresh them.

  2. The LORD intended to treat the nations harshly and punish or destroy them. People treat sheaves of grain harshly by causing animals to trample on them and pull hard, sharp threshing sledges over them.

sheaves: The word sheaves refers to heads of ripe grain. The two most common grains in Israel were wheat and barley. The Jews harvested grain by cutting the stalk below the head of ripe grain. Then they gathered these stalks of grain and carried them to a threshing floor.

threshing floor: A threshing floor is a flat smooth area of hard ground or rock. This is the place where people removed the grains from the stalks. People placed the harvested stalks of grain on the floor. Then they made cows walk on the stalks or pull a threshing sledge over the stalks. (A threshing sledge is a heavy piece of wood with bits of sharp metal or stones on the bottom.) This knocked the grains from the stalks. Then people separated the grain from the empty stalks by winnowing.Winnowing involves tossing the threshed chaff and grain into the air on a windy day. In many cultures, a wide, fairly flat winnowing basket is used for this purpose. The wind then blows away the chaff, leaving the grain in the basket.

Here are some ways to translate this figure of speech:

Use an option that will be acceptable and well understood in your language area.


UTNuW Translation Notes:

Note 1 topic: figures-of-speech / simile

(Occurrence 0) for he has gathered them like bundles of grain prepared for the threshing floor

(Some words not found in UHB: and,they not know thoughts_of YHWH and=not understand counsel_of,his that/for/because/then/when he,has_gathered_them like_(the),grain threshing_floor,to_[the] )

The writer speaks of Yahweh being ready to destroy the nations as if Yahweh were a farmer who has put his bundles of grain on his threshing floor and is now ready to thresh them.

BI Mic 4:12 ©