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OET (OET-LV) If/because there_is_not remembrance_of man with the_fool for_a_long_time in_that_already the_days the_(ones_who)_went (the)_everything it_has_been_forgotten and_how he_will_die the_wise_person with the_fool.
OET (OET-RV) because neither the wise person nor the fool will be remembered forever,
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as they’ll both be forgotten in the days to come—
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and how strange it is that the wise die just like the fool!
Note 1 topic: figures-of-speech / abstractnouns
זִכְר֧וֹן
remembrance_of
The word translated as because indicates that what follows is a reason for what came before. Use a connector in your language that makes it clear that what follows is a reason for what came before. Alternate translation: [remembering]
Note 2 topic: figures-of-speech / nominaladj
לֶחָכָ֛ם
of,man
Solomon is using under the sun as a common expression of the culture to mean “in this life.” If this phrase does not have that meaning for your readers, you could use a comparable expression from your language that does have that meaning, or you could state the meaning plainly.
Note 3 topic: figures-of-speech / exclamations
וְאֵ֛יךְ
and,how!
Solomon is using pursuit of wind as a common expression of the culture to mean “a futile effort.” If this phrase does not have that meaning for your readers, you could use a comparable expression from your language that does have that meaning, or you could state the meaning plainly. Alternate translation: [How tragic]
Note 4 topic: figures-of-speech / exclamations
יָמ֥וּת הֶחָכָ֖ם עִֽם־הַכְּסִֽיל
die the_wise,[person] with the,fool
See how you translated the similar expression in [2:11](../02/11.md). Alternate translation: [The wise die just as the fool does]
Note 5 topic: grammar-connect-logic-result
The word translated as because indicates that what follows is a reason for what came before. Use a connector in your language that makes it clear that what follows is a reason for what came before. Alternate translation: [For there is no memory of the wise person with the fool in perpetuity. The reason is that already, in the coming days, both will be forgotten. Alas! The wise die with the fool!]
Note 6 topic: figures-of-speech / hyperbole
אֵ֨ין זִכְר֧וֹן לֶחָכָ֛ם עִֽם־הַכְּסִ֖יל לְעוֹלָ֑ם
not remembrance_of of,man with the,fool for,a_long_time
Solomon says The wise die with the fool as an exclamation to express his dismay. If a speaker of your language would not use this form to express dismay, you could translate this in another way that communicates this feeling. Alternate translation: [the wise person will eventually be forgotten just like the fool]
Note 7 topic: figures-of-speech / activepassive
הַכֹּ֣ל נִשְׁכָּ֔ח
(the),everything forgotten
Solomon is speaking as if the futility and transience of all human endeavor were vapor, which disappears quickly and lacks substance. Your language may have a comparable expression that you can use in your translation, or you could state the meaning plainly. Alternate translation: [no one will remember either of them]
OET (OET-LV) If/because there_is_not remembrance_of man with the_fool for_a_long_time in_that_already the_days the_(ones_who)_went (the)_everything it_has_been_forgotten and_how he_will_die the_wise_person with the_fool.
OET (OET-RV) because neither the wise person nor the fool will be remembered forever,
⇔
as they’ll both be forgotten in the days to come—
⇔
and how strange it is that the wise die just like the fool!
Note: The OET-RV is still only a first draft, and so far only a few words have been (mostly automatically) matched to the Hebrew or Greek words that they’re translated from.
Acknowledgements: The Hebrew text, lemmas, and morphology are all thanks to the OSHB and some of the glosses are from Macula Hebrew.