JOS 17:18 Parallel Verse View

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BrLXX Ὁ γὰρ δρυμὸς ἔσται σοι, ὅτι δρυμός ἐστι καὶ ἐκκαθαριεῖς αὐτὸν, καὶ ἔσται σοι· καὶ ὅταν ἐξολοθρεύ· σῃς τὸν Χαναναῖον, ὅτι ἵππος ἐπίλεκτος αὐτῷ ἐστι· σὺ γὰρ ὑπερισχύεις αὐτοῦ.
(Ho gar drumos estai soi, hoti drumos esti kai ekkatharieis auton, kai estai soi; kai hotan exolothreu; saʸs ton Ⱪananaion, hoti hippos epilektos autōi esti; su gar huperisⱪueis autou.)

BrTr For thou shalt have the wood, for there is a wood, and thou shalt clear it, and the land shall be thine; even when thou shalt have utterly destroyed the Chananite, for he has chosen cavalry; yet thou art stronger than he.

ULT For the hill country will be to you, though it, is a forest, and you shall clear it, and its goings out will be to you. For you will dispossess the Canaanite, though a chariot of iron is to him, though he, is strong.”

UST The hill country will also belong to you. You will have to cut down the trees in order to clear fields where you can plant crops. But all of that land will belong to you. I also believe that you will be able to force the Canaanites to leave the plain so you can live there. You will be able to do that even though they are strong and have chariots that have iron parts.”

BSB & MSB because the hill country will be yours as well. It is a forest; clear it, and its farthest limits will be yours. Although [the Canaanites] have iron chariots and although they are strong, you can drive [them] out.”

OEB The hill country of Gilead will be yours, for though it is a Forest you will clear it and hold it to its full extent. For you will evict the Canaanites, though they do have iron chariots and though they are strong.’

WEBBE & WMBB but the hill country shall be yours. Although it is a forest, you shall cut it down, and it’s farthest extent shall be yours; for you shall drive out the Canaanites, though they have chariots of iron, and though they are strong.”

NET The whole hill country will be yours; though it is a forest, you can clear it and it will be entirely yours. You can conquer the Canaanites, though they have chariots with iron-rimmed wheels and are strong.”

LSV because the mountain is yours; because it [is] a forest—you have created it, and its outgoings have been yours; because you dispossess the Canaanite, though it has chariots of iron—though it [is] strong.”

FBV You will be allocated the hill country in addition. Though it is forest, you will clear it and own it, from one end to the other. You will drive out the Canaanites, even though they have iron chariots, and even though they are strong.”

T4T but you will have to cut down the trees in order to make a place for you to live. It is true that the Canaan people-group are strong and have iron chariots, but you will be able to force them to leave that valley.”

LEB the hill country will be yours. Even though it is a forest, you will clear it, and it will be yours to its farthest borders. You will drive out the Canaanites,[fn] even though they have iron chariots and are strong.”

17:18 Hebrew “Canaanite”

BBE For the hill-country of Gilead will be yours ... the woodland and cut down ... its outskirts will be yours ... get the Canaanites out, for they have iron war-carriages ... strong.

Moff the hill18 country of Gilead shall be yours, for though it is a Forest you shall clear it and hold it to its full extent. For you shall evict the Canaanites, though they do have iron chariots and though they are strong.”

JPS but the hill-country shall be thine; for though it is a forest, thou shalt cut it down, and the goings out thereof shall be thine; for thou shalt drive out the Canaanites, though they have chariots of iron, and though they be strong.'

ASV but the hill-country shall be thine; for though it is a forest, thou shalt cut it down, and the goings out thereof shall be thine; for thou shalt drive out the Canaanites, though they have chariots of iron, and though they are strong.

DRA But thou shalt pass to the mountain, and shalt cut down the wood, and make thyself room to dwell in: and mayst proceed farther, when thou hast destroyed the Chanaanites, who as thou sayest have iron chariots, and are very strong.

YLT because the mountain is thine; because it [is] a forest — thou hast prepared it, and its outgoings have been thine; because thou dost dispossess the Canaanite, though it hath chariots of iron — though it [is] strong.'

Drby but the hill-country shall be thine, as it is a wood, thou shalt cut it down, and its outgoings shall be thine; for thou shalt dispossess the Canaanites, though they have iron chariots; for they are powerful.

RV but the hill country shall be thine; for though it is a forest, thou shalt cut it down, and the goings out thereof shall be thine: for thou shalt drive out the Canaanites, though they have chariots of iron, and though they be strong.
(but the hill country shall be thine; for though it is a forest, thou/you shalt/shall cut it down, and the goings out thereof shall be thine: for thou/you shalt/shall drive out the Canaanites, though they have chariots of iron, and though they be strong.)

SLT But the mountain shall be to thee, for it is a forest, and thou shalt cut it down; and its out-goings were to thee; for thou shalt drive out the Canaanite, if the chariot of iron is to him; if he is strong.

Wbstr But the mountain shall be thine; for it is a wood, and thou shalt cut it down: and the limits of it shall be thine: for thou shalt drive out the Canaanites, though they have iron chariots, and though they are strong.

KJB-1769 But the mountain shall be thine; for it is a wood, and thou shalt cut it down: and the outgoings of it shall be thine: for thou shalt drive out the Canaanites, though they have iron chariots, and though they be strong.
(But the mountain shall be thine; for it is a wood, and thou/you shalt/shall cut it down: and the outgoings of it shall be thine: for thou/you shalt/shall drive out the Canaanites, though they have iron chariots, and though they be strong.)

KJB-1611 But the mountaine shalbe thine, for it is a wood, and thou shalt cut it downe: and the outgoings of it shalbe thine: for thou shalt driue out the Canaanites, though they haue yron charets, and though they be strong.
(Modernised spelling is same as from KJB-1769 above, apart from marking of added words (and possibly capitalisation and punctuation))

Bshps Therfore the hyll shalbe yours, and ye shall cut downe the wood that is in it: and the endes of it shalbe yours, yf ye cast out the Chananaites which haue iron charettes, and are very strong.
(Therefore the hill shall be yours, and ye/you_all shall cut down the wood that is in it: and the ends of it shall be yours, if ye/you_all cast out the Chananaites which have iron chariots, and are very strong.)

Gnva Therefore the mountaine shall be thine: for it is a wood, and thou shalt cut it downe: and the endes of it shall be thine, and thou shalt cast out the Canaanites, though they haue yron charets, and though they be strong.
(Therefore the mountain shall be thine: for it is a wood, and thou/you shalt/shall cut it down: and the ends of it shall be thine, and thou/you shalt/shall cast out the Canaanites, though they have iron chariots, and though they be strong.)

Cvdl but the mountayne where ye wod is, shal be thine: rote yt out for ye, so shall it be the outgoinge of thy porcion, whan thou dryuest out the Cananites, which haue yro charettes, & are mightie.
(but the mountain where ye/you_all wood is, shall be thine: root it out for ye/you_all, so shall it be the outgoing of thy/your portion, when thou/you drivest out the Canaanites, which have iron chariots, and are mighty.)

Wycl but thou schalt passe to the hil, and thou schalt kitte doun to thee; and thou schalt clense spaces to dwelle. And thou schalt mow go forth ferthere, whanne thou hast distried Cananei, whom thou seist to haue irone charis, and to be moost strong.
(but thou/you shalt/shall pass to the hill, and thou/you shalt/shall cut down to thee/you; and thou/you shalt/shall cleanse spaces to dwell. And thou/you shalt/shall mow go forth further, when thou/you hast destroyed Cananei, whom thou/you sayest/say to have iron chariots, and to be most strong.)

Luth sondern das Gebirge soll dein sein, da der Wald ist; den haue um, so wird er deines Loses Ende sein, wenn du die Kanaaniter vertreibest, die eiserne Wagen haben und mächtig sind.
(rather the mountains should your(s) be, there the/of_the forest is; the hit/spank um, so becomes he your(s) lot’s end(n) be, if/when you(sg) the Canaanite(s) drive_out, the iron wagon/cart/chariot have and powerful are.)

ClVg sed transibis ad montem, et succides tibi, atque purgabis ad habitandum spatia: et poteris ultra procedere cum subverteris Chananæum, quem dicis ferreos habere currus, et esse fortissimum.
(but you_will_go_over to mountain, and cut_offs to_you, and_yet you_will_clean to to_live_in spatia: and you_will_be_able_to beyond/besides proceed when/with you_may_have_overthrown Canaanites, which you_say irons to_have chariot/coach, and to_be bravest.)

SOTN SIL Open Translator’s Notes:

Section 16:1–17:18 The clans of Ephraim and Manasseh received their land

This section describes the boundaries of the land given to Ephraim and to Manasseh, and the towns within each of their lands.

17:18a

because the hill country will be yours as well.

The hill country will be yours.
The mountain country will belong to you as well.

because the hill country will be yours as well: Here are some other ways to translate this part of the verse:

You will be able to conquer the whole hill country

The mountain country will belong to you as well

17:18b

It is a forest; clear it, and its farthest limits will be yours.

It is a forest, but you will cut down the trees and live in all of it.
Even though it is a forest area, you can clear it out and make all of it your own.

It is a forest; clear it, and its farthest limits will be yours: The Hebrew that the BSB translates as clear refers specifically to the act of cutting down trees and removing shrubs in a forest to create a place to live. Here are some other ways to translate this part of the verse:

It is a forest, but you will cut down the trees and conquer all of it

Even though it is a forest area, you can clear it out and make all of it your own

17:18c

Although the Canaanites have iron chariots and although they are strong, you can drive them out.”

You will make the Canaan people leave, though they are strong and have chariots made of iron.”
You will defeat the Canaan people, even though they are powerful and have iron war carts.”

Although the Canaanites have iron chariots and although they are strong: Here are some other ways to translate this part of the verse:

though they are strong and have chariots made of iron

even though they are powerful and have iron war carts

you can drive them out: Here are some other ways to translate this part of the verse:

You will make the Canaanites leave

You will defeat the Canaan people

BMM BibleMapper.com Maps:

Tribal Allotments of the Promised Land

After the Israelites had conquered portions of the Promised Land and Joshua had grown old, the Lord directed him to divide the rest of the land among the tribes of Israel as their inheritance (Joshua 13-20). The eastern tribes had already been allotted their land under Moses’ leadership (Numbers 32), but they continued to help the other tribes drive out the Canaanites from land west of the Jordan River. The Lord also instructed the Israelites to designate several cities of refuge, where someone could flee for protection from an avenger if they accidentally killed someone (Numbers 35; Joshua 20).

Poster Map of the Tribe of Manasseh (West) and Its Surroundings, circa 1200 B.C.

Though Manasseh’s descendants formed only half the tribe of Joseph (the other half being Ephraim) and its population was surpassed by Judah, Issachar, Zebulun, Dan, and Asher (Numbers 26) at the time of their entry in Canaan, Manasseh occupied one of the largest allotments among the tribes of Israel, rivaling even the royal tribe of Judah. Half of Manasseh’s allotted territory was located technically outside the Promised Land of Canaan in the region commonly referred to as the Transjordan (“across the Jordan”), which was seized from King Og as the Israelites approached Canaan from the southeast and prepared to enter the land (Numbers 32:33; Deuteronomy 3:13; Joshua 13; see “Israel Defeats Og and Sihon” map). The other half of its territory (often referred to as West Manasseh) lay in the central region of the Promised Land, and the tribe of Manasseh, sometimes referred to by the name of Machir, Manasseh’s son, was involved in several key events in the early life of Israel. They participated in the victory of Deborah and Barak over Sisera (Judges 5:14; see “Deborah and Barak Defeat Sisera” map) as well as the victory of Gideon (who was from Manasseh) over the Midianites (Judges 7:23; see “Gideon Defeats the Midianites” map). After Gideon died, his son Abimelech briefly made himself king over Shechem and also attacked the town of Thebez in the territory of Manasseh (Judges 9). Manassites were among those who joined David before the battle at Mount Gilboa and also among those who came to make him king at Hebron (1 Chronicles 12; see “The Battle at Mount Gilboa” map and “David and Ish-bosheth” map). Many Manassites were also among those who humbled themselves and accepted Hezekiah’s invitation to attend the Passover in Jerusalem (2 Chronicles 30:11).

West Manasseh’s boundaries eventually stretched from the Mediterranean Sea to the Jordan River, and that is how they are drawn on virtually all maps of the tribe’s territory. But this author is convinced that a careful reading of Joshua 16-17 (particularly Joshua 17:7-12) indicates that, technically speaking, Manasseh’s initial allotment included only the western portion of their full allotment, that is, the land to the west of Tappuah, Shechem, and En-gannim and to the south of Asher (see “Poster Map of the Tribe of Zebulun and Its Surroundings circa 1200 B.C.” map and its discussion regarding southern Asher), as shown on this map (see also 1 Kings 4:10). But the tribe of Joseph (that is, Manasseh and Ephraim) complained to Joshua that their allotted territory in Canaan was not large enough for their growing populations (Joshua 17:14-18). So Joshua responded: “If you are a numerous people, go up to the forest, and clear ground there for yourselves in the land of the Perizzites and the Rephaim” (Joshua 17:15). Then it appears that the tribe of Joseph complained further that even this additional hill country would not be enough, yet they were not confident that they could take land from the Canaanites in the Jezreel Valley (Joshua 17:16). But Joshua assured them, “Since you are so large and strong, you will be given more than one portion. The forests of the hill country will be yours as well. Clear as much of the land as you wish, and take possession of its farthest corners. And you will drive out the Canaanites from the valleys, too, even though they are strong and have iron chariots” (Joshua 17:17-18, NLT). This additional allotment–the forested hill country of the Perizzites and the Rephaim–was likely the mountainous region just north of Shechem and the surrounding towns of Tirzah, Thebez, and Bezek. This is supported by Jacob’s comment in Genesis 34:30 that Simeon and Levi had made him “odious to the inhabitants of the land, the Canaanites and the Perizzites” when they slaughtered the men of Shechem for assaulting their sister. Judges 1:4-5 also references a battle fought against the Canaanites and the Perizzites at Bezek. Prior to the Israelites’ entry into Canaan, Perizzites apparently lived in the hill country near Bethel and Ai as well (Genesis 13:7). The Rephaim, while predominantly associated with the lands across the Jordan River (Genesis 14:5; Deuteronomy 2:11-20; 3:11-13), apparently also lived in Canaan, because the Israelites wiped out many Anakim, who were descendants of the Rephaim, as they were conquering Judah (Deuteronomy 2:11; Joshua 11:21-22; 14:12-15). It should also be noted that Ephraim was included in this promise of an additional lot as well (Joshua 17:17), and the stories of Gideon and Jephthah indicate that by their time Ephraim, not Manasseh, was progressively gaining control over the lower Jordan Valley as far north as Zaphon (Judges 7:23-24; 12:1). Manasseh also began to occupy territory belonging to the surrounding Israelite tribes, including the towns and surrounding villages of Beth-shan, Ibleam, Dor, Endor, Taanach, and Megiddo, though they never fully drove out the Canaanites living there (Joshua 17:11-12; Judges 1:27-28; 1 Chronicles 7:29). As a result, the territory occupied by Manasseh and Ephraim by the completion of the book of Joshua and Judges is notably larger than the land originally allotted to them.

Joshua also records that Manasseh’s tribal allotment was further divided among ten clans of Manasseh, including the families of the daughters of Zelophehad (Joshua 17:1-6). During the Israelites’ wandering in the wilderness, Moses granted Zelophehad’s daughters, whose father had no sons, the right to inherit land, though this was not the normal practice in Israel (Numbers 27). The discovery of the Samaria Ostraca in the palace of Ahab in 1910 has enabled scholars to deduce the likely area in which several of these clans settled within Manasseh’s territory, including Noah, Shemida, Abiezer, Asriel, Shechem, Helek, Hoglah, and Tirzah. This author also suspects that the location of the clan of Mahlah may be preserved in the name of the ruins at Khirbat al Milkh (identified as Abel-meholah on this map) and the nearby stream of Wadi el Maleh. Likewise, this author also suspects the location of the clan of Milcah may be preserved in name of the ruins at Khirbat Malihim and the nearby spring of `Ein el Ma`lqa.

Parallel JOS 17:18

Section 16:1–17:18 The clans of Ephraim and Manasseh received their land

17:18a

17:18b

17:18c

Tribal Allotments of the Promised Land

Poster Map of the Tribe of Manasseh (West) and Its Surroundings, circa 1200 B.C.