DAN 11:35 Parallel Verse View

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ULT Some of those who have insight will stumble in order to refine, purify, and cleanse them, until the time of the end. For it is still to come at the appointed time.

UST Some of those wise leaders will be killed, but as a result the others will be purified. This suffering will continue until it is the time that God has appointed for it to end.

OEB No OEB DAN book available

WEBBE Some of those who are wise will fall—to refine them, and to purify, and to make them white, even to the time of the end, because it is yet for the time appointed.

WMBB (Same as above)

NET Even some of the wise will stumble, resulting in their refinement, purification, and cleansing until the time of the end, for it is still for the appointed time.

LSV And some of the teachers stumble for refining by them, and for purifying, and for making white—until the end of the time, for [it is] yet for a time appointed.

FBV Some of the wise will be killed, so that they may be refined and purified and cleansed until the time of the end, for the predicted time is still to come.

T4T Some of those wise leaders will be killed [EUP], but as a result the others will be purified [DOU]. This suffering will continue until it is the time that God has appointed for it to end.

LEB And even some of those _⌊who have insight_⌋[fn] will fall[fn] in order for them to be refined by it, and to be purified and cleansed until the time of the end, for the appointed time is still to come.

11:35 Literally “the ones who produce insight”

11:35 Or “stumble”

BBE And some of those who are wise will have wisdom in testing themselves and making themselves clean, till the time of the end: for it is still for the fixed time.

Moff Some of the pious, however, shall remain pious, and so be refined, purified, and made white, till the crisis at the close (for the appointed hour is still to come).

JPS And some of them that are wise shall stumble, to refine among them, and to purify, and to make white, even to the time of the end; for it is yet for the time appointed.

ASV And some of them that are wise shall fall, to refine them, and to purify, and to make them white, even to the time of the end; because it is yet for the time appointed.

DRA And some of the learned shall fall, that they may be tried, and may be chosen, and made white even to the appointed time, because yet there shall be another time.

YLT And some of the teachers do stumble for refining by them, and for purifying, and for making white — till the end of the time, for [it is] yet for a time appointed.

Drby And [some] of the wise shall fall, to try them, and to purge and to make them white, to the time of the end: for it shall yet be for the time appointed.

RV And some of them that be wise shall fall, to refine them, and to purify, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for the time appointed.

SLT And from those understanding shall be weak to try upon them to separate, to become white even to the time of the end: for yet at the appointment.

Wbstr And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed.

KJB-1769 And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed.[fn]

11.35 try them: or, try by them

KJB-1611 [fn]And some of them of vnderstanding shall fall, to trie them, and to purge, and to make them white, euen to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed.
(Modernised spelling is same as from KJB-1769 above, apart from marking of added words (and possibly capitalisation and punctuation and footnotes))

11:35 Or, by them

Bshps Yea some of those that haue vnderstanding shall fall, that they may be tryed, purified, and made whyte, tyll the tyme be out: for there is a tyme appointed.
(Yea some of those that have understanding shall fall, that they may be tried, purified, and made white, till the time be out: for there is a time appointed.)

Gnva And some of the of vnderstanding shall fall to trie them, and to purge, and to make them white, till the time be out: for there is a time appointed.
(And some of the of understanding shall fall to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, till the time be out: for there is a time appointed. )

Cvdl Yee some of those which haue vnderstondynge shal be persecuted also: yt they maye be tryed, purified & clesed, till the tyme be out: for there is yet another tyme appoynted.
(Ye/You_all some of those which have understanding shall be persecuted also: it they may be tried, purified and clesed, till the time be out: for there is yet another time appointed.)

Wycl And of lerud men schulen falle, that thei be wellid togidere, and be chosun, and be maad whijt til to a tyme determyned; for yit another tyme schal be.
(And of lerud men should fall, that they be wellid together, and be chosen, and be made white till to a time determined; for yet another time shall be.)

Luth Und der Verständigen werden etliche fallen, auf daß sie bewähret, rein und lauter werden, bis daß es ein Ende habe; denn es ist noch eine andere Zeit vorhanden.
(And the/of_the Verständigen become several fall/drop, on/in/to that they/she/them bewähret, pure and louder become, until that it a end(n) have; because/than it is still a/one other/different time/period available.)

ClVg Et de eruditis ruent, ut conflentur, et eligantur, et dealbentur usque ad tempus præfinitum: quia adhuc aliud tempus erit.
(And from/about instructsis ruent, as conflentur, and eligantur, and dealbentur until to time/season beforefinitum: because still something_else time/season will_be. )

SOTN SIL Open Translator’s Notes:

Section 10:1–12:13: Daniel saw a vision of an angelic man and the end of the age

In this long final vision, Daniel was told of events leading up to the end of the age.

Paragraph 11:33–35

This paragraph tells what will happen to those who resist the evil king of the North.

11:35a

Some of the wise will fall,

Even some of those who are wise will suffer.
Some of those who have insight will be persecuted/killed.

Some of the wise will fall: The clause Some of the wise will fall here indicates that some of the faithful and wise Jewish teachers mentioned in 11:33a would suffer persecution. Avoid suggesting that Some of the wise will fall into sin. The following verse part shows that this is not the meaning in this context. Here are some other ways to translate this:

Some of the wise people will be defeated (GW)

Some of the discerning ones will fall victim to the persecutors

And some of the wise will fall victim to persecution (NLT)

Some of those who are wise will suffer (CEV)

11:35b-c

so that they may be refined, purified, and made spotless until the time of the end: This is a purpose clause. It describes God’s purpose in allowing some of the wise to fall victim to persecution. God’s purpose is to make these people holy. Here are some other ways to translate this purpose clause:

in order to refine, purify and make them white until the end times (GW)

God will allow this to make them holy, pure, and without spot/blame until the end

11:35b

so that they may be refined, purified, and made spotless

This will happen in order to refine, purify, and make God’s people clean.
The persecution/suffering will test and purify God’s people. It will help them to choose what is good and not sin.

they may be refined: The Hebrew verb phrase that the BSB translates as they may be refined is literally “to refine them.” This is a figure of speech that refers to the way metal is refined in order to test and purify it. There are several ways to translate this:

using a passive verb referring to either the refining of metal or the testing of a person. For example:
they may be tested (REB)
using an active verb. The implied subject may be God or the persecution itself. For example:
He wants to refine/test them
This persecution will refine/test them
using a noun. For example:
their refinement (NET)
their testing

purified: The word purified is here short for “so that they may be purified.” Again, this may be translated in several ways:

using a passive verb. For example:
made pure
using an active verb. For example:
to make them pure
using a noun. For example:
their…purification (NET)

made spotless: This is more literally “made white.” This is a passive verb and there are several ways to translate it:

using a passive verb. For example:
cleansed (NRSV)
using an active verb. For example:
made white (ESV)
using a noun. For example:
their…cleansing (NET)

Translate this series of three verbs in the way that is most natural in your language.

11:35c

until the time of the end,

The persecution will continue until the end of this time,
This will continue until this time/age comes to an end.

until the time of the end: Here is another way to translate this verse part:

until the end comes (GNT)

11:35d

for it will still come at the appointed time.

for the time that God has appointed/chosen/determined is still in the future.
God has decided when he will bring this time/age to an end.

for it will still come at the appointed time: This clause indicates that the end will come at the time God has appointed, but the end is not yet. It is still to come. Here are some other ways to translate this:

for there is still an interval until the time appointed (NRSV)

But the appointed time is still to come. (GW)

the appointed time: The Hebrew word that the BSB translates as the appointed time refers to a fixed or set time for something to happen, such as a feast day. It is implied that God is the one who has appointed the time. In some languages it may be natural to make this explicit, as the GNT has done:

the time that God has set (GNT)

UTN uW Translation Notes:

וּ⁠מִן־הַ⁠מַּשְׂכִּילִ֣ים יִכָּֽשְׁל֗וּ לִ⁠צְר֥וֹף בָּ⁠הֶ֛ם וּ⁠לְ⁠בָרֵ֥ר וְ⁠לַ⁠לְבֵּ֖ן עַד־עֵ֣ת קֵ֑ץ

and=from [those,who]_have_insight fall to,refine (is)_in=them and,to,purge_[them] and,to,purify_[them] until time_of extremity/end_of

This suffering will continue until the time when God has decided that it will end.

Note 1 topic: figures-of-speech / metaphor

וּ⁠מִן־הַ⁠מַּשְׂכִּילִ֣ים יִכָּֽשְׁל֗וּ

and=from [those,who]_have_insight fall

Here stumble represents experiencing a disaster of one kind or another, including death itself.

Note 2 topic: grammar-connect-logic-result

לִ⁠צְר֥וֹף

to,refine

Here in order to introduces the result that will happen. Alternate translation: “so that God can refine”

Note 3 topic: figures-of-speech / metaphor

לִ⁠צְר֥וֹף

to,refine

To refine refers to the purifying of metal by melting it in a fire. When God makes his people more faithful to himself, this is spoken of as if they were metal that a worker was making more pure by putting it into fire.

Note 4 topic: figures-of-speech / metaphor

וּ⁠לְ⁠בָרֵ֥ר

and,to,purge_[them]

To purify refers to making people, places, or objects suitable for God’s use by separating them from sin and other forms of evil. It speaks of evil as if it were physical dirtiness that could be removed by washing.

עֵ֣ת קֵ֑ץ

time_of extremity/end_of

Alternate translation: “the final days” or “the end of the world.” See how you translated this in [Daniel 8:17](../08/17.md).

ע֖וֹד לַ⁠מּוֹעֵֽד

again/more to,time

Here the appointed time implies that God has set the time. This can be put into active form. Alternate translation: “Yahweh has set the time in the future”