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Parallel HEB 12:18

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BI Heb 12:18 ©

Text critical issues=small word differences Clarity of original=clear Importance to us=normal(All still tentative.)

OET (OET-RV)You all haven’t come to what can be touched and to a blazing fire and to darkness and to gloom and to a storm (like Israelis encountered at Mt. Sinai)[ref]


12:18-19: Exo 19:16-22; 20:18-21; Deu 4:11-12; 5:22-27.

OET-LVFor/Because not you_all_have_approached, being_touched and having_been_burned with_fire, and to_darkness, and to_darkness, and to_whirlwind,

SR-GNTΟὐ γὰρ προσεληλύθατε, ψηλαφωμένῳ καὶ κεκαυμένῳ πυρὶ, καὶ γνόφῳ, καὶ ζόφῳ, καὶ θυέλλῃ,
   (Ou gar proselaʸluthate, psaʸlafōmenōi kai kekaumenōi puri, kai gnofōi, kai zofōi, kai thuellaʸ,)

Key: khaki:verbs, cyan:dative/indirect object, red:negative.
Note: Automatic aligning of the OET-RV to the LV is done by some temporary software, hence the RV alignments are incomplete (and may occasionally be wrong).

ULTFor you have not come to what can be touched and to a blazing fire and to darkness and to gloom and to a storm

USTWe have not gone closer to what the Israelites went closer to when they arrived at Mount Sinai. They went closer to a mountain that they could feel with their hands. They saw flames burning, dark clouds, shadows, and a thunderstorm.

BSBFor you have not come to [ a mountain that ] can be touched and [that][fn] is burning with fire; to darkness, gloom, and storm;


12:18 Literally to what can be touched and

MSBFor you have not come to a mountain that[fn] can be touched and [that] is burning with fire; to blackness, darkness,[fn] and storm;


12:18 CT literal to something that

12:18 CT gloom

BLBFor you have not come to that being touched and having been kindled with fire, and to darkness, and to gloom, and to storm,


AICNTFor you have not come to a touchable [[mountain]][fn] and burning fire, and darkness, and gloom, and storm,


12:18, mountain: Later manuscripts add. BYZ TR

OEBIt is not to tangible “flaming fire” that you have drawn near, nor to “gloom, and darkness, and storm,

WEBBEFor you have not come to a mountain that might be touched and that burnt with fire, and to blackness, darkness, storm,

WMBB (Same as above)

NETFor you have not come to something that can be touched, to a burning fire and darkness and gloom and a whirlwind

LSVFor you did not come near to the mountain touched and scorched with fire, and to blackness, and darkness, and storm,

FBVYou haven't arrived at a physical mountain[fn] that can be touched, that burned with fire, to a stormy place of black darkness,


12:18 Clearly the reference in context is to Mount Sinai.

TCNTFor you have not come to [fn]a mountain that can be touched, to a blazing fire, darkness, gloom, and a whirlwind.


12:18 a mountain 93% ¦ something CT 2.1%

T4TIn coming to God you have not experienced things like what the Israeli people experienced at Sinai Mountain. They approached a mountain that God told them they should not touch. They approached a blazing fire, and it was gloomy and dark [DOU], and there was a hurricane/cyclone.

LEBNo LEB HEB book available

BBEYou have not come to a mountain which may be touched, and is burning with fire, and to a black cloud, and a dark smoke, and a violent wind,

MoffNo Moff HEB book available

WymthFor you have not come to a material object all ablaze with fire, and to gloom and darkness and storm and trumpet-blast and the sound of words—

ASVFor ye are not come unto a mount that might be touched, and that burned with fire, and unto blackness, and darkness, and tempest,

DRAFor you are not come to a mountain that might be touched, and a burning fire, and a whirlwind, and darkness, and storm,

YLTFor ye came not near to the mount touched and scorched with fire, and to blackness, and darkness, and tempest,

DrbyFor ye have not come to [the mount] that might be touched and was all on fire, and to obscurity, and darkness, and tempest,

RVFor ye are not come unto a mount that might be touched, and that burned with fire, and unto blackness, and darkness, and tempest,
   (For ye/you_all are not come unto a mount that might be touched, and that burnt with fire, and unto blackness, and darkness, and tempest, )

SLTFor ye have not come to the mount being handled, and burned with fire, and to duskiness, and to darkness, and to a violent storm,

WbstrFor ye are not come to the mount that might be touched, and that burned with fire, nor to blackness, and to darkness, and tempest,

KJB-1769For ye are not come unto the mount that might be touched, and that burned with fire, nor unto blackness, and darkness, and tempest,
   (For ye/you_all are not come unto the mount that might be touched, and that burnt with fire, nor unto blackness, and darkness, and tempest, )

KJB-1611For yee are not come vnto the mount that might be touched, and that burned with fire, nor vnto blacknesse, and darknes, and tempest,
   (For ye/you_all are not come unto the mount that might be touched, and that burnt with fire, nor unto blackness, and darknes, and tempest,)

BshpsNo Bshps HEB book available

GnvaFor ye are not come vnto the mount that might be touched, nor vnto burning fire, nor to blacknes and darkenes, and tempest,
   (For ye/you_all are not come unto the mount that might be touched, nor unto burning fire, nor to blacknes and darkness, and tempest, )

CvdlNo Cvdl HEB book available

TNTFor ye are not come vnto the mounte that can be touched and vnto burninge fyre nor yet to myst and darcknes and tempest of wedder
   (For ye/you_all are not come unto the mounte that can be touched and unto burninge fire nor yet to myst and darkness and tempest of wedder )

WyclNo Wycl HEB book available

LuthNo Luth HEB book available

ClVgNon enim accessistis ad tractabilem montem, et accensibilem ignem, et turbinem, et caliginem, et procellam,[fn]
   (Not/No because accessistis to tractabilem mountain, and accensibilem fire, and turbinem, and the_darknessm, and stormm, )


12.18 Non enim accessistis. Dixerat, ne quis desit gratiæ his modis quos subdidit, parata enim est gratia, et hoc est: Non enim accessistis ad asperitatem legis, quam describit, ut econtra intelligatur suavitas gratiæ, non ad ignem, sed ad Spiritum sanctum, qui est ignis consumens peccata, ad quem non motu corporis, sed spiritu itur. Turbinem. Turbo est vis ventorum cum grandine et pluvia, et significat impetum vitiorum quæ per legem magis damnata sunt. Sed modo venitur ad serenitatem per gratiam Spiritus. Caliginem. Hoc ponit quia obscura lex fuit, modo clara intelligentia. Procellam, quæ est major quam turbo, et est tempestas quæ quocunque impellit. Hæc est servitus peccati secundum operationem quæ per legem trahebat homines: modo autem est requies a vitiis imperfectis.


12.18 Not/No because accessistis. Dixerat, not who/any desit gratiæ his in_ways which subdidit, parata because it_is grace, and this it_is: Not/No because accessistis to asperitatem law, how describit, as econtra intelligatur suavitas gratiæ, not/no to fire, but to By_Spiritm holy, who it_is fire consumens sins, to which not/no motu body, but in_spirit itur. Turbinem. Turbo it_is you_want ventorum when/with grandine and pluvia, and means impetum spoil/with_faultrum which through the_law more damnata are. But just/only he_cameur to serenitatem through grace Spirit. Caliginem. This puts because obscura the_law it_was, just/only clara intelligentia. Procellam, which it_is major/greater how turbo, and it_is storm which quocunque impellit. This it_is slavestus of_sin after/second workedonem which through the_law trahebat mans: just/only however it_is rest/repose from vitiis imperfectis.

UGNTοὐ γὰρ προσεληλύθατε, ψηλαφωμένῳ καὶ κεκαυμένῳ πυρὶ, καὶ γνόφῳ, καὶ ζόφῳ, καὶ θυέλλῃ,
   (ou gar proselaʸluthate, psaʸlafōmenōi kai kekaumenōi puri, kai gnofōi, kai zofōi, kai thuellaʸ,)

SBL-GNTΟὐ γὰρ προσεληλύθατε ⸀ψηλαφωμένῳ καὶ κεκαυμένῳ πυρὶ καὶ γνόφῳ καὶ ⸀ζόφῳ καὶ θυέλλῃ
   (Ou gar proselaʸluthate ⸀psaʸlafōmenōi kai kekaumenōi puri kai gnofōi kai ⸀zofōi kai thuellaʸ)

RP-GNTΟὐ γὰρ προσεληλύθατε ψηλαφωμένῳ ὄρει, καὶ κεκαυμένῳ πυρί, καὶ γνόφῳ, καὶ σκότῳ, καὶ θυέλλῃ,
   (Ou gar proselaʸluthate psaʸlafōmenōi orei, kai kekaumenōi puri, kai gnofōi, kai skotōi, kai thuellaʸ,)

TC-GNTΟὐ γὰρ προσεληλύθατε ψηλαφωμένῳ [fn]ὄρει, καὶ κεκαυμένῳ πυρί, καὶ γνόφῳ, καὶ [fn]σκότῳ, καὶ θυέλλῃ,
   (Ou gar proselaʸluthate psaʸlafōmenōi orei, kai kekaumenōi puri, kai gnofōi, kai skotōi, kai thuellaʸ, )


12:18 ορει 93% ¦ — CT 2.1%

12:18 σκοτω 93% ¦ ζοφω CT 4.8%

Key for above GNTs: yellow:punctuation differs, red:words differ (from our SR-GNT base).


TSNTyndale Study Notes:

12:18 The descriptions of Mount Sinai come directly from God’s encounter with Israel at that mountain (see Exod 19:16-22; 20:18-21; Deut 4:11-12; 5:23-27). The images communicate separation from a holy God.


UTNuW Translation Notes:

In [12:18–21](../12/18.md), the author refers to what happened when the Israelites left Egypt and arrived a mountain named Sinai. God came down to this mountain to create a covenant with the Israelites, and Moses met him on the mountain and received God’s commands and promises. When God came to the mountain, there were loud sounds, fire, and dark clouds, and God commanded that nobody should go up the mountain except for Moses and Aaron. The Israelites were afraid and asked Moses to speak to God for them. You can read about this story in [Exodus 19:9–20:21](../exo/19/09.md) and [Deuteronomy 4:9–5:31](../deu/04/09.md). You might want to include this information in a footnote.

Note 1 topic: grammar-connect-logic-result

γὰρ

for

The word For introduces a further reason (which is found in [12:18–24](../12/18.md)) for why the audience should do what the author has encouraged them to do in [12:14–17](../12/14.md). If it would be helpful in your language, you could use a word or phrase that introduces a reason for exhortations or commands, or you could leave For untranslated. Alternate translation: [You should do all those things, because]

Note 2 topic: figures-of-speech / explicit

οὐ & προσεληλύθατε, ψηλαφωμένῳ

not & ˱you_all˲_˓have˒_approached ˓being˒_touched

The author assumes that his audience knows that what can be touched is the mountain named Sinai that the Israelites did come to after they left the land of Egypt. If your readers would not make these inferences, you could make the ideas more explicit. Alternate translation: [you have not come, as the Israelites did, to a mountain that can be touched]

Note 3 topic: figures-of-speech / activepassive

ψηλαφωμένῳ

˓being˒_touched

If your language does not use the passive form in this way, you could express the idea in active form or in another way that is natural in your language. The author uses the passive form here to emphasize that the mountain is something that people can touch. If you must state who did the action, you could use an indefinite subject. Alternate translation: [what humans can touch] or [what is touchable]

Note 4 topic: figures-of-speech / metonymy

ψηλαφωμένῳ

˓being˒_touched

The author is referring to physical things by association with the way those things can be touched. If it would be helpful in your language, you could use an equivalent expression or express the meaning plainly. Alternate translation: [physical things]

Note 5 topic: figures-of-speech / infostructure

καὶ κεκαυμένῳ πυρὶ

and ˓having_been˒_burned ˱with˲_fire

The word blazing could: (1) modify fire. Alternate translation: [and to a fire that blazes] (2) be parallel with what can be touched. Alternate translation: [and is burning, to fire] or [and is blazing with fire]

Note 6 topic: figures-of-speech / doublet

γνόφῳ, καὶ ζόφῳ

˱to˲_darkness and ˱to˲_darkness

The words darkness and gloom function together to refer to how “dark” it was when they came to the mountain. It is possible that darkness refers to shadows, while gloom refers to when the sun sets. If you do not have two words for these categories, you could use a single word or phrase to refer to deep darkness. Alternate translation: [to gloomy darkness] or [to intense gloom]

BI Heb 12:18 ©