ROM 5:8 Parallel Verse View

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Text critical issues=small word differences Clarity of original=clear Importance to us=normal (All still tentative.)

Key: khaki:verbs, light-green:nominative/subject, orange:accusative/object, pink:genitive/possessor.
Note: Automatic aligning of the OET-RV to the LV is done by some temporary software, hence the RV alignments are incomplete (and may occasionally be wrong).

ULT But God demonstrates his own love toward us, in that, we still being sinners, Christ died for us.

UST However, God shows his own love towards we believers by this fact: while we were still sinful, Jesus the Messiah died for our benefit!

BLB But God demonstrates His love to us, that of us being still sinners, Christ died for us.

AICNT But God demonstrates his own love for us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

OEB But God puts his love for us beyond all doubt by the fact that Christ died on our behalf while we were still sinners.

CSB But God proves his own love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

NLT But God showed his great love for us by sending Christ to die for us while we were still sinners.

NIV But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

CEV But God showed how much he loved us by having Christ die for us, even though we were sinful.

ESV but God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

NASB But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

LSB But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

WEBBE But God commends his own love towards us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

WMBB But God commends his own love towards us, in that while we were yet sinners, Messiah died for us.

MSG ^(6-8)Christ arrives right on time to make this happen. He didn’t, and doesn’t, wait for us to get ready. He presented himself for this sacrificial death when we were far too weak and rebellious to do anything to get ourselves ready. And even if we hadn’t been so weak, we wouldn’t have known what to do anyway. We can understand someone dying for a person worth dying for, and we can understand how someone good and noble could inspire us to selfless sacrifice. But God put his love on the line for us by offering his Son in sacrificial death while we were of no use whatever to him.

NET But God demonstrates his own love for us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

LSV and God commends His own love to us, that, in our being still sinners, Christ died for us;

FBV But God demonstrates his love for us in that Christ died for us while we were still sinners.

TCNT But God demonstrated his own love for us in that, while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

T4T Nevertheless, as for God, the way he showed us that he loves us is that Christ died on our behalf while we were still rebelling against God.

LEB but God demonstrates his own love for us, in that while[fn] we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

5:8 *Here “while” is supplied as a component of the participle (“were”) which is understood as temporal

NRSV But God proves his love for us in that while we still were sinners Christ died for us.

NKJV But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

NAB But God proves his love for us in that while we were still sinners Christ died for us.

BBE But God has made clear his love to us, in that, when we were still sinners, Christ gave his life for us.

Moff But God proves his love for us by this, that Christ died for us when we were still sinners.

Wymth But God gives proof of His love to us in Christ's dying for us while we were still sinners.

ASV But God commendeth his own love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

DRA But God commendeth his charity towards us; because when as yet we were sinners, according to the time,

YLT and God doth commend His own love to us, that, in our being still sinners, Christ did die for us;

Drby but [fn]God commends his love to us, in that, we being still sinners, Christ has died for us.

5.8 Elohim

RV But God commendeth his own love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

SLT And God recommends his own love to us, that we yet being sinful, Christ died for us.

Wbstr But God commendeth his love towards us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

KJB-1769 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

KJB-1611 But God commendeth his loue towards vs, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for vs.
(But God commendeth his love towards us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.)

Bshps But God setteth out his loue towarde vs, seyng that whyle we were yet sinners, Christe dyed for vs.
(But God setteth out his love toward us, seeing that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.)

Gnva But God setteth out his loue towards vs, seeing that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for vs.
(But God setteth out his love towards us, seeing that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. )

Cvdl Therfore doth God set forth his loue towarde vs, in yt Christ dyed for vs,whan we were yet synners:
(Therefore doth/does God set forth his love toward us, in it Christ died for us,whan we were yet sinners:)

TNT But God setteth out his love that he hath to vs seinge that whyll we were yet synners Christ dyed for vs.
(But God setteth out his love that he hath/has to us seeing that while we were yet sinners Christ died for us. )

Wycl But God comendith his charite in vs; for if whanne we weren yit synneris,
(But God comingdith his charity in us; for if when we were yet sinners,)

Luth Darum preiset GOtt seine Liebe gegen uns, daß Christus für uns gestorben ist, da wir noch Sünder waren.
(Therefore praises God his love(n) to/against us/to_us/ourselves, that Christ for/in_favour_of us/to_us/ourselves died is, there we/us still sinners were.)

ClVg Commendat autem caritatem suam Deus in nobis: quoniam cum adhuc peccatores essemus, secundum tempus,[fn]
(Commendat however charity his_own God in/into/on us: since/because when/with still sinners we_would_be, after/second time/season, )

5.8 Cum adhuc. Ecce dum oderat secundum peccata, amabat secundum quod opus ejus: quod et fecit ante mundi constitutionem. Dicendum erat quantum nos dilexit, ne desperaremus; et quales, ne superbiremus. Fuit et alius modus possibilis Deo qui omnia potest, sed nullus nostræ miseriæ sanandæ convenientior. Quid enim nos tantum erigit, et a desperatione immortalitatis liberat, quam quod tanti nos fecit, ut homo pro nobis moreretur?

5.8 Since still. Behold while oderat after/second sins, amabat after/second that work/need his: that and he_did before world constitutionem. Sayendum was quantum us he_loved, not desperaremus; and what_kind, not proudremus. It_was and another modus possibilis to_God who/which everything can, but none our miserableæ healthyndæ convenientior. What because us only raises, and from desperatione immortalitatis liberat, how that so_much us he_did, as human for us would_die?

UGNT συνίστησιν δὲ τὴν ἑαυτοῦ ἀγάπην εἰς ἡμᾶς ὁ Θεὸς, ὅτι ἔτι ἁμαρτωλῶν ὄντων ἡμῶν, Χριστὸς ὑπὲρ ἡμῶν ἀπέθανεν.
(sunistaʸsin de taʸn heautou agapaʸn eis haʸmas ho Theos, hoti eti hamartōlōn ontōn haʸmōn, Ⱪristos huper haʸmōn apethanen.)

SBL-GNT συνίστησιν δὲ τὴν ἑαυτοῦ ἀγάπην εἰς ἡμᾶς ὁ θεὸς ὅτι ἔτι ἁμαρτωλῶν ὄντων ἡμῶν Χριστὸς ὑπὲρ ἡμῶν ἀπέθανεν.
(sunistaʸsin de taʸn heautou agapaʸn eis haʸmas ho theos hoti eti hamartōlōn ontōn haʸmōn Ⱪristos huper haʸmōn apethanen.)

RP-GNT Συνίστησιν δὲ τὴν ἑαυτοῦ ἀγάπην εἰς ἡμᾶς ὁ θεός, ὅτι ἔτι ἁμαρτωλῶν ὄντων ἡμῶν χριστὸς ὑπὲρ ἡμῶν ἀπέθανεν.
(Sunistaʸsin de taʸn heautou agapaʸn eis haʸmas ho theos, hoti eti hamartōlōn ontōn haʸmōn ⱪristos huper haʸmōn apethanen.)

TC-GNT Συνίστησι δὲ τὴν ἑαυτοῦ ἀγάπην εἰς ἡμᾶς ὁ Θεός, ὅτι ἔτι ἁμαρτωλῶν ὄντων ἡμῶν Χριστὸς ὑπὲρ ἡμῶν ἀπέθανε.
(Sunistaʸsi de taʸn heautou agapaʸn eis haʸmas ho Theos, hoti eti hamartōlōn ontōn haʸmōn Ⱪristos huper haʸmōn apethane. )

Key for above GNTs: yellow:punctuation differs, orange:accents differ, red:words differ (from our SR-GNT base).

SOTN SIL Open Translator’s Notes:

Section 5:1–11: Good fruit/things in our lives because we believe

In this section, Paul started by saying that God has made people right with him because they believed in Jesus. From that, believers have peace with God and his grace. Believers rejoice about the future blessings as well as sufferings here on earth. Suffering causes us to endure, do what is right, and have hope for a better future.

God showed how much he loves us by sending Christ to die for us when we were still rejecting him. Jesus also saves us from God’s anger and reconciled us to God, and so we can rejoice.

Here are other possible headings for this section:

Results of Justification (NRSV)

Peace with God Through Faith (ESV)

Some things we experience because we believe in Jesus

5:8a

But God proves His love for us in this:

But God demonstrates his love for/to us by
But God shows us that he always loves us like this:

proves: This verb is present tense because God loves people all the time.

His love for us: In some languages a verb must be used for the noun love here. For example:

that he loves us

in this: This phrase introduces how God shows his love for us. Here are other ways to translate this phrase:

by (NLT)

in this way: (NCV)

5:8b

While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

Jesus Christ dying for us while we were yet sinners.
During/At the time when we were still doing wrong against God, Christ died to benefit us.

still: Here this word means “continue to be.” Christ died for our sins before we could stop sinning. For example:

yet (RSV)

sinners: This word refers to people who habitually do what is against what God wants. The word can also refer to people who are outsiders to the community of the people of God.See BDAG b.β. But many English versions translate the Greek word as the BSB does.

for: Here the word for refers to benefiting us or in order to help us, as it does the second time it occurs in 5:7a.

UTN uW Translation Notes:

Note 1 topic: figures-of-speech / rpronouns

ἑαυτοῦ

˱of˲_himself

Paul uses the word his own to emphasize how much God loves his people. Use a way that is natural in your language to indicate this emphasis. Alternate translation: [his very own] or [his personal]

Note 2 topic: figures-of-speech / abstractnouns

τὴν ἑαυτοῦ ἀγάπην εἰς ἡμᾶς

(Some words not found in SR-GNT: συνίστησιν Δέ τήν ἑαυτοῦ ἀγάπην εἰς ἡμάς ὁ Θεός ὅτι ἔτι ἁμαρτωλῶν ὄντων ἡμῶν Χριστός ὑπέρ ἡμῶν ἀπέθανεν)

If your language does not use an abstract noun for the idea of love, you could express the same idea with a verbal form. Alternate translation: [how much God loves us]

Note 3 topic: grammar-connect-time-simultaneous

ἔτι ἁμαρτωλῶν ὄντων ἡμῶν

still sinners being ˱of˲_us

In this clause Paul is describing something that was true during the time period he is describing in the rest of the verse. You can make this clear in your translation with an appropriate connecting word or phrase. Alternate translation: [during the time we were still being sinners]

Note 4 topic: figures-of-speech / infostructure

ἔτι ἁμαρτωλῶν ὄντων ἡμῶν, Χριστὸς ὑπὲρ ἡμῶν ἀπέθανεν

still sinners being ˱of˲_us (Some words not found in SR-GNT: συνίστησιν Δέ τήν ἑαυτοῦ ἀγάπην εἰς ἡμάς ὁ Θεός ὅτι ἔτι ἁμαρτωλῶν ὄντων ἡμῶν Χριστός ὑπέρ ἡμῶν ἀπέθανεν)

If it would be more natural in your language, you could reverse the order of these phrases. Alternate translation (omitting the preceding comma): [Christ died for us while we were still being sinners]

Parallel ROM 5:8

Section 5:1–11: Good fruit/things in our lives because we believe

5:8a

5:8b