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Parallel 2SA 24:5

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BI 2Sa 24:5 ©

Text critical issues=none Clarity of original=clearImportance=normal(All still tentative.)

OET (OET-RV)They crossed the Yordan river and camped in Aroer, south of the city in the middle of the Gad valley, then proceeded to Yazer.

OET-LVAnd_crossed DOM the_Yardēn/(Jordan) and_camped in/on/at/with_ˊArōˊēr the_south the_city which in_the_middle the_valley the_Gād and_near/to Yaˊzēr/(Jazer).

UHBוַ⁠יַּעַבְר֖וּ אֶת־הַ⁠יַּרְדֵּ֑ן וַ⁠יַּחֲנ֣וּ בַ⁠עֲרוֹעֵ֗ר יְמִ֥ין הָ⁠עִ֛יר אֲשֶׁ֛ר בְּ⁠תוֹךְ־הַ⁠נַּ֥חַל הַ⁠גָּ֖ד וְ⁠אֶל־יַעְזֵֽר׃
   (va⁠yyaˊaⱱrū ʼet-ha⁠yyardēn va⁠yyaḩₐnū ⱱa⁠ˊₐrōˊēr yəmin hā⁠ˊir ʼₐsher bə⁠tōk-ha⁠nnaḩal ha⁠ggād və⁠ʼel-yaˊzēr.)

Key: khaki:verbs.
Note: Automatic aligning of the OET-RV to the LV is done by some temporary software, hence the OET-RV alignments are incomplete (and may occasionally be wrong).

BrLXXΚαὶ διέβησαν τὸν Ἰορδάνην, καὶ παρενέβαλον ἐν Ἀροὴρ ἐκ δεξιῶν τῆς πόλεως τῆς ἐν μέσῳ τῆς φάραγγος Γὰδ καὶ Ἐλιέζερ.
   (Kai diebaʸsan ton Yordanaʸn, kai parenebalon en Aroaʸr ek dexiōn taʸs poleōs taʸs en mesōi taʸs farangos Gad kai Eliezer. )

BrTrAnd they went over Jordan, and encamped in Aroer, on the right of the city which is in the midst of the valley of Gad and Eliezer.

ULTAnd they crossed the Jordan, and they camped in Aroer, south of the city which is in the midst of the stream, to Gad and to Jazer.

USTThey crossed the Jordan River and set up their tents south of Aroer, in the middle of the valley, in the territory that was given to the tribe of Gad. From there they went north to Jazer.

BSB  § They crossed the Jordan and camped near Aroer, south of the town in the middle of the valley, and proceeded toward Gad and Jazer.


OEBAnd they crossed the Jordan, and that is in the midst of the torrent valley, towards Gad and on to Jazer.

WEBBEThey passed over the Jordan and encamped in Aroer, on the right side of the city that is in the middle of the valley of Gad, and to Jazer;

WMBB (Same as above)

NETThey crossed the Jordan and camped at Aroer, on the south side of the city, at the wadi of Gad, near Jazer.

LSVand they pass over the Jordan, and encamp in Aroer, on the right of the city that [is] in the midst of the Brook of Gad, and to Jazer,

FBVThey crossed the Jordan and camped on the south side of the town of Aroer, in the middle of the valley, and then continued towards Gad and Jazer.

T4TThey crossed the Jordan River and set up their tents south of Aroer town, in the middle of the valley, in the territory that was given to the tribe of Gad. From there they went north to Jazer city

LEBThey crossed over the Jordan and camped at Aroer to the south of the city, which was in the middle of the wadi of Gad, and up to Jazer.

BBEAnd they went over Jordan, and starting from Aroer, from the town which is in the middle of the valley, they went in the direction of the Gadites, and on to Jazer;

MoffNo Moff 2SA book available

JPSAnd they passed over the Jordan, and pitched in Aroer, on the right side of the city that is in the middle of the valley of Gad, and unto Jazer;

ASVAnd they passed over the Jordan, and encamped in Aroer, on the right side of the city that is in the middle of the valley of Gad, and unto Jazer:

DRAAnd when they had passed the Jordan, they came to Aroer to the right side of the city, which is in the vale of Gad.

YLTand they pass over the Jordan, and encamp in Aroer, on the right of the city that [is] in the midst of the brook of Gad, and unto Jazer,

DrbyAnd they passed over the Jordan, and encamped in Aroer, on the right side of the city that is in the midst of the ravine of Gad, and toward Jaazer.

RVAnd they passed over Jordan, and pitched in Aroer, on the right side of the city that is in the middle of the valley of Gad, and unto Jazer.

WbstrAnd they passed over Jordan, and pitched in Aroer, on the right side of the city that lieth in the midst of the river of Gad, and towards Jazer:

KJB-1769¶ And they passed over Jordan, and pitched in Aroer, on the right side of the city that lieth in the midst of the river of Gad, and toward Jazer:[fn]
   (¶ And they passed over Yordan, and pitched in Aroer, on the right side of the city that lieth/lies in the midst of the river of Gad, and toward Jazer: )


24.5 river: or, valley

KJB-1611[fn]And they passed ouer Iordane, and pitched in Aroer, on the right side of the citie that lieth in the midst of the riuer of Gad, and toward Iazer.
   (Modernised spelling is same as from KJB-1769 above, apart from punctuation and footnotes)


24:5 Or, valley.

BshpsAnd they passed ouer Iordane, & pitched in Aroer on the right syde of the citie that lyeth in the myddest of the valey of Gad, and toward Iazer.
   (And they passed over Yordan, and pitched in Aroer on the right side of the city that lieth/lies in the myddest of the valley of Gad, and toward Yazer.)

GnvaAnd they passed ouer Iorden, and pitched in Aroer at the right side of the citie that is in the middes of the valley of Gad and toward Iazer.
   (And they passed over Yordan, and pitched in Aroer at the right side of the city that is in the midst of the valley of Gad and toward Yazer. )

Cvdland passed ouer Iordane, and pitched at Aroer, at the righte hande of the cite which lyeth in ye ryuer of Gad, and at Iaseer,
   (and passed over Yordan, and pitched at Aroer, at the righte hand of the cite which lieth/lies in ye/you_all river of Gad, and at Yaseer,)

WyclAnd whanne thei hadden passid Jordan, thei camen in to Aroer, to the riyt side of the citee which is in the valei of Gad;
   (And when they had passed Yordan, they came in to Aroer, to the right side of the city which is in the valei of Gad;)

LuthUnd gingen über den Jordan und lagerten sich zu Aroer zur Rechten der Stadt, die im Bach Gad liegt, und zu Jaeser.
   (And went above the Yordan and stored itself/yourself/themselves to Aroer to lawen the/of_the city, the in_the Bach Gad liegt, and to Yaeser.)

ClVgCumque pertransissent Jordanem, venerunt in Aroër ad dexteram urbis, quæ est in valle Gad:
   (And_when pertransissent Yordan, venerunt in Aroër to dexteram urbis, which it_is in valle Gad: )

TTNTyndale Theme Notes:

God or Satan?

Who is responsible for trials and difficulties? Strangely, Scripture attributes some instances to God, some to Satan, and some to both. How can this be? The difference is one of perspective.

There is a notable difference between the accounts of David’s census in Samuel and in Chronicles. Second Samuel 24:1 attributes the census taking to God (“the Lord . . . caused David to harm them by taking a census”), while 1 Chronicles 21:1 attributes the action to Satan (“Satan rose up against Israel and caused David to take a census of the people of Israel”).

Second Samuel 24:1-25 tells the census story from God’s perspective as the primary agent; God permitted Satan’s action in order to fulfill his own purpose.

This phenomenon is not uncommon in Scripture. Matthew 4:1 contains a similar instance of dual agency, where Jesus is led out into the wilderness by the Holy Spirit to be tempted by the devil. Perhaps the most notable similar experience is Job’s trial: It was brought on by Satan and permitted by God—after the Lord had spoken glowingly about Job (Job 1:6–2:7). Through all the trials that followed, Job’s heart was righteous despite Satan’s attempts to elicit a curse against God. Similarly, 2 Corinthians 12:7 teaches that a God-sent affliction can be delivered by a messenger from Satan. When Paul wrote that he was given a “thorn,” he used a passive verb, indicating that this affliction was given by God.

Satan works in many ways in an attempt to discourage or destroy God’s people. Yet God is sovereign. God does not author evil, but sometimes God makes use of others’ evil deeds to accomplish his good purposes (Gen 50:20).

Passages for Further Study

2 Sam 24:1-25; 1 Chr 21:1-30; Job 1:8–2:10; Matt 4:1-11; 12:22-37; Mark 8:31-33; John 13:21-31; Rom 8:28; 1 Cor 5:1-5; 2 Cor 12:6-10; Eph 2:1-7; Rev 20:1-3, 7-10


UTNuW Translation Notes:

(Occurrence 0) They crossed

(Some words not found in UHB: and,crossed DOM the,Jordan and,camped in/on/at/with,Aroer south the=city which/who in_the=middle the,valley the,Gad and=near/to Yaˊzēr/(Jazer) )

Alternate translation: “Joab and the commanders of the army crossed”

Note 1 topic: translate-names

(Occurrence 0) Aroer

(Some words not found in UHB: and,crossed DOM the,Jordan and,camped in/on/at/with,Aroer south the=city which/who in_the=middle the,valley the,Gad and=near/to Yaˊzēr/(Jazer) )

This was a city on the northern edge of the Arnon River.

Note 2 topic: translate-names

(Occurrence 0) Jazer

(Some words not found in UHB: and,crossed DOM the,Jordan and,camped in/on/at/with,Aroer south the=city which/who in_the=middle the,valley the,Gad and=near/to Yaˊzēr/(Jazer) )

This is a town in Gad.


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Temple of the Lord

The Temple of the Lord in Jerusalem, where all Israelite males were commanded to offer sacrifices to the Lord (Exodus 23:14-19; Deuteronomy 16:16-17), underwent several stages of reconstruction and development over hundreds of years. The first Temple was built by King Solomon to replace the aging Tabernacle, and it was constructed on a threshing floor on high ground on the north side of the city (2 Samuel 24; 1 Chronicles 21). Hundreds of years later King Hezekiah expanded the platform surrounding the Temple. When Jerusalem fell to the Babylonians in 586 B.C., the Temple was completely destroyed (2 Kings 25:1-21; 2 Chronicles 36:17-21; Jeremiah 39:1-10; 52:1-30). It was rebuilt in 515 B.C. after a group of Jews returned to Judea from exile in Babylon (Ezra 1:5-6:15; Nehemiah 7:5-65). Herod the Great completely rebuilt and expanded the Temple once again around 20 B.C., making it one of the largest temples in the Roman world. Jesus’ first believers often met together in Solomon’s Colonnade, a columned porch that encircled the Temple Mount, perhaps carrying on a tradition started by Jesus himself (John 10:23; Acts 3:11; 5:12). But Herod’s Temple did not last long: After many Jews revolted against Rome, the Romans eventually recaptured Jerusalem and destroyed the Temple in A.D. 70.

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The Route of David’s Census Takers

2 Samuel 24:1-10; 1 Chronicles 21:1-8

After David had secured his reign over all Israel and greatly expanded his rule over neighboring nations, he commissioned Joab, the commander of his army, to “count the people of Israel and Judah.” Though Scripture does not explicitly state the reason for this order, the report that Joab provided to David nearly ten months later at the conclusion of the census makes his intentions clear: David was seeking a tally of all troops he had at his disposal throughout his kingdom. Joab initially resisted David’s order, and after the census was completed David was stricken with guilt over his actions, and ultimately the Lord punished Israel for David’s census. Yet nowhere in Scripture is the counting of troops clearly condemned. In fact, during the Israelites’ wanderings in the wilderness the Lord commanded two different censuses to be taken of Israel’s troops (Numbers 1; 26), and many of the accounts of Israel’s battles throughout the Old Testament include a careful tally of the troops involved, so it must have been normal practice to take a census such as David commissioned. Most scholars explain this discrepancy by inferring that Joab and others must have discerned that David was wrongly looking to military might instead of the Lord’s promise to fight for his people (Deuteronomy 20:1-4) or that he was disobeying the law by including those under twenty years of age (see Exodus 30:11-16; 1 Chronicles 27:23-24). While this may be true, it does not fully explain what this author has found to be a curious peculiarity about David’s census: The census takers do not appear to have traveled hardly anywhere within the core settlement areas of Israel or Judah. Instead, the census takers followed a route almost entirely along the perimeter of Israel’s core area of initial settlement, as shown on this map. They started out at Aroer and “the town in the middle of the gorge,” probably referring to modern Mudaynet as-Saliya in the Arnon Gorge (see also Deuteronomy 2:36; Joshua 13:9, 16), which were located at the far corner of Israel’s allotted land. Then they headed north to Jazer and Gilead, likely following the King’s Highway, which ran along the outer edge of Israel’s lands. Then they came to Tahtim-hodshi, which this author suspects is referring to the “lowlands of Kedesh.” The Israelite city of Kedesh was situated among the hills of upper Galilee, but just to the east of it lay a valley occupied primarily by the people of Maacah, who fought against and were defeated by David earlier in his reign. Then the census takers traveled to Dan, which is often cited along with Beersheba as marking the distant boundary of Israel (Judges 20:1; 1 Samuel 3:20; 2 Samuel 3:10; 17:11; 1 Chronicles 21:2), and on to Sidon and Tyre. The Bible never indicates that Sidon and Tyre were subdued by David, but he appears to have wielded considerable influence over Tyre (2 Samuel 5:11; 1 Chronicles 14:1; see also 1 Kings 5:2-11) and perhaps over Sidon as well. After this the census takers went to all the cities of the Hivites and Canaanites, likely indicating that they traveled through the coastal lands along the Mediterranean Sea. Lastly, they completed their route at the city of Beersheba in the Negev. This route along the perimeter of Israel’s core settlement areas suggests that, while David’s census takers were no doubt collecting troop information from the tribes of Israel (see 1 Chronicles 21:5-6), their primary focus appears to have been on David’s newly acquired lands, which would have been largely comprised of non-Israelites. This theory may also be supported by 2 Chronicles 2:17, which notes that “Solomon counted all the resident aliens who were in the land of Israel, after the census of them that David his father had taken.” Thus, this author suspects that Joab may have been urging David not to rely on troops from these non-Israelites to protect Israel and instead called upon the Lord to increase the number of “the people” (perhaps meaning the Israelite people) a hundredfold. At the same time, however, the biblical account of the census takers’ route never uses any of the names for the subdued nations (e.g., Moab, Ammon, Aram, Maacah, Philistia, etc.), though it does use vague references to “Canaanites” and “Hivites.” This may reflect a tension that existed at the time between David’s efforts to integrate these new lands into one great empire (thus explaining the aversion to identifying people by their former national affiliation) and the convictions of those like Joab, who may have been opposed to such integration.

BI 2Sa 24:5 ©