JOB 18:4 Parallel Verse View

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BrLXX Κέχρηταί σοι ὀργή· τί γὰρ ἐὰν σὺ ἀποθάνῃς, ἀοίκητος ἡ ὑπʼ οὐρανόν; ἢ καταστραφήσεται ὄρη ἐκ θεμελίων;
(Keⱪraʸtai soi orgaʸ; ti gar ean su apothanaʸs, aoikaʸtos haʸ hupʼ ouranon; aʸ katastrafaʸsetai oraʸ ek themeliōn; )

BrTr Anger has possessed thee: for what if thou shouldest die; would the earth under heaven be desolate? or shall the mountains be overthrown from their foundations?

ULT The one tearing himself in his nose—
⇔ will the earth be forsaken for your sake,
⇔ or will the rock move from its place?

UST But by being so angry, you are only hurting yourself.
⇔ You seem to think that everyone should abandon the earth because life on earth is no longer worth living for anyone after what has happened to you.
⇔ You seem to think that there should be a great earthquake as a sign of what an awful thing has happened to you.

BSB You who tear yourself in anger—should the earth be forsaken on your account, or the rocks be moved from their place?
⇔ 

MSB You who tear yourself in anger—should the earth be forsaken on your account, or the rocks be moved from their place?
⇔ 

OEB Thou that tearest thyself in thine anger.
⇔ For thy sake shall earth be made desert,
⇔ Or rock be moved out of its place?

WEBBE You who tear yourself in your anger,
⇔ will the earth be forsaken for you?
⇔ Or will the rock be removed out of its place?

WMBB (Same as above)

NET You who tear yourself to pieces in your anger,
⇔ will the earth be abandoned for your sake?
⇔ Or will a rock be moved from its place?

LSV He is tearing himself in his anger. Is earth forsaken for your sake? And is a rock removed from its place?

FBV You tear yourself apart with your anger.[fn] Do you think the earth has to be abandoned, or the mountains moved, just because of you?[fn]

18:4 In 16:9 Job said that God had torn him apart in his anger. Bildad says it's all self-inflicted.

18:4 In other words, “Do you expect the world to be changed just to suit you?”

T4T By being very angry and hurting yourself,
⇔ do you think that doing that will shake the earth,
⇔ or cause the rocks in the mountains to move? [RHQ]?

LEB No LEB JOB book available

BBE But come back, now, come: you who are wounding yourself in your passion, will the earth be given up because of you, or a rock be moved out of its place?

Moff No Moff JOB book available

JPS Thou that tearest thyself in thine anger, shall the earth be forsaken for thee? Or shall the rock be removed out of its place?

ASV Thou that tearest thyself in thine anger,
⇔ Shall the earth be forsaken for thee?
⇔ Or shall the rock be removed out of its place?

DRA Thou that destroyest thy soul in thy fury, shall the earth be forsaken for thee, and shall rocks be removed out of their place?

YLT (He is tearing himself in his anger.) For thy sake is earth forsaken? And removed is a rock from its place?

Drby Thou that tearest thyself in thine anger, shall the earth be forsaken for thee? and shall the rock be removed out of its place?

RV Thou that tearest thyself in thine anger, shall the earth be forsaken for thee? or shall the rock be removed out of its place?
(Thou/You that tearst thyself/yourself in thine/your anger, shall the earth be forsaken for thee/you? or shall the rock be removed out of its place? )

SLT He rent his soul in his anger: shall the earth be forsaken for thee? and shall the rock be removed from its place?

Wbstr He teareth himself in his anger: shall the earth be forsaken for thee? and shall the rock be removed out of its place?

KJB-1769 He teareth himself in his anger: shall the earth be forsaken for thee? and shall the rock be removed out of his place?[fn]
(He teareth himself in his anger: shall the earth be forsaken for thee/you? and shall the rock be removed out of his place? )

18.4 himself: Heb. his soul

KJB-1611 [fn]He teareth himselfe in his anger: shall the earth be forsaken for thee? and shall the rocke bee remooued out of his place?
(Modernised spelling is same as from KJB-1769 above apart from footnotes)

18:4 Hebr. his soule.

Bshps No Bshps JOB book available

Gnva Thou art as one that teareth his soule in his anger. Shall the earth bee forsaken for thy sake? or the rocke remoued out of his place?
(Thou/You art as one that teareth his soul in his anger. Shall the earth be forsaken for thy/your sake? or the rock removed out of his place? )

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ClVg Qui perdis animam tuam in furore tuo, numquid propter te derelinquetur terra, et transferentur rupes de loco suo?[fn]
(Who perdis the_soul your(sg) in/into/on with_fury your, is_it because you(sg) derelinquetur earth/land, and transferentur rupes from/about instead his_own? )

18.4 Quid perdis animam tuam. Reprobi zelum rectitudinis, vel spiritualem gratiam sanctæ prædicationis, insaniam furoris æstimant: quo perire fidelium animas arbitrantur. Nunquid propter te derelinquetur terra. Ecclesia dicit, etc., usque ad unde iste flagellis Job insultat, unde subdit:

18.4 What perdis the_soul your(sg). Reprobi zeal rectitudinis, or in_spiritalem grace sanctæ beforedicationis, insaniam of_fury brasstimant: where perire faithful souls arbitrantur. Nunquid because you(sg) derelinquetur earth/land. Assembly/Church he_says, etc., until to whence this flagellis Yob insultat, whence I_submit:

RP-GNT No RP-GNT JOB book available

UTN uW Translation Notes:

Note 1 topic: figures-of-speech / 123person

טֹֽרֵ֥ף נַפְשׁ֗⁠וֹ בְּ⁠אַ֫פּ֥⁠וֹ

tear self_of,him in/on/at/with,anger_of,him

Bildad is speaking about Job in the third person. If it would be helpful in your language, you could translate this in the second person. Alternate translation: [You who tear yourself in your nose]

Note 2 topic: figures-of-speech / explicit

טֹֽרֵ֥ף נַפְשׁ֗⁠וֹ בְּ⁠אַ֫פּ֥⁠וֹ

tear self_of,him in/on/at/with,anger_of,him

Bildad is continuing to answer Job in his own words. In [16:9](../16/09.md), Job spoke as if God were literally a wild animal that had torn him in his anger. Bildad is saying that it is actually Job who is tearing himself apart in his own anger. You could indicate that in your translation if it would be helpful to your readers. Alternate translation: [It is you who are tearing yourself apart in your anger]

Note 3 topic: figures-of-speech / rquestion

הַ֭⁠לְמַעַנְ⁠ךָ תֵּעָ֣זַב אָ֑רֶץ וְ⁠יֶעְתַּק־צ֝֗וּר מִ⁠מְּקֹמֽ⁠וֹ

the,for_~_sake,your abandoned earth and,removed rock from,place_of,its

Bildad is using the question form for emphasis. If you would not use the question form for that purpose in your language, you could translate this as a statement or as an exclamation. Alternate translation: [The earth will not be forsaken for your sake, and the rock will not move from its place!]

Note 4 topic: figures-of-speech / activepassive

תֵּעָ֣זַב אָ֑רֶץ

abandoned earth

If your language does not use this passive form, you could express the idea in active form or in another way that is natural in your language. Alternate translation: [will people forsake the earth] or [will people stop living on the earth]

Note 5 topic: figures-of-speech / explicit

וְ⁠יֶעְתַּק־צ֝֗וּר מִ⁠מְּקֹמֽ⁠וֹ

and,removed rock from,place_of,its

Bildad is continuing to answer Job in his own words. In [14:18–19](../14/19.md), Job said to God, “you destroy the hope of man,” and he compared that to the way “a rock moves from its place.” This could be a reference to an earthquake or a landslide. Bildad is implying that Job is being overly grandiose by comparing his individual situation with great natural events. You could indicate that in your translation if it would be helpful to your readers. It may be helpful to begin a new sentence here. Alternate translation: [It is not as if your individual situation is a great earthquake!]

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