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Parallel 2SA 20:18

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BI 2Sa 20:18 ©

Text critical issues=none Clarity of original=clearImportance=normal(All still tentative.)

OET (OET-RV)Then she told him, “Long ago people used to tell others to come here to Abel to get advice, and they’d do that and then be able to settle the matter.

OET-LVAnd_she/it_said to_say surely_(speak) they_spoke in/on/at/with_former_times to_say really_(ask) they_will_ask in/on/at/with_Heⱱel and_thus/so/as_follows they_ceased.

UHBוַ⁠תֹּ֖אמֶר לֵ⁠אמֹ֑ר דַּבֵּ֨ר יְדַבְּר֤וּ בָ⁠רִֽאשֹׁנָה֙ לֵ⁠אמֹ֔ר שָׁאֹ֧ל יְשָׁאֲל֛וּ בְּ⁠אָבֵ֖ל וְ⁠כֵ֥ן הֵתַֽמּוּ׃
   (va⁠ttoʼmer lē⁠ʼmor dabēr yədabrū ⱱā⁠riʼshonāh lē⁠ʼmor shāʼol yəshāʼₐlū bə⁠ʼāⱱēl və⁠kēn hētammū.)

Key: khaki:verbs.
Note: Automatic aligning of the OET-RV to the LV is done by some temporary software, hence the OET-RV alignments are incomplete (and may occasionally be wrong).

BrLXXΚαὶ εἶπε λέγουσα, λόγον ἐλάλησαν ἐν πρώτοις, λέγοντες, ἠρωτημένος ἠρωτήθη ἐν τῇ Ἀβὲλ καὶ ἐν Δὰν εἰ ἐξέλιπον ἃ ἔθεντο οἱ πιστοὶ τοῦ Ἰσραήλ· ἐρωτῶντες ἐπερωτήσουσιν ἐν Ἀβὲλ, καὶ οὕτως εἰ ἐξέλιπον.
   (Kai eipe legousa, logon elalaʸsan en prōtois, legontes, aʸrōtaʸmenos aʸrōtaʸthaʸ en taʸ Abel kai en Dan ei exelipon ha ethento hoi pistoi tou Israaʸl; erōtōntes eperōtaʸsousin en Abel, kai houtōs ei exelipon. )

BrTrAnd she spoke, saying, [fn]Of old time they said thus, Surely one was asked in Abel, and Dan, whether the faithful in Israel failed in what they purposed; they will surely ask in Abel, even in like manner, whether they have failed.


20:18 Gr. they spoke a word among the first, saying.

ULTAnd she said, saying, “They would certainly speak in former times, saying, ‘They will certainly inquire in Abel,’ and thus they would settle it.

USTShe said, “Long ago people used to say, ‘Go to Abel town to get good advice about your problems.’ And that is what people did.

BSB  § Then the woman said, “Long ago they used to say, ‘Seek counsel at Abel,’ and that is how disputes were settled.


OEBThen she spoke, saying, ‘They used to say formerly, “Let them ask in Abel and ”

WEBBEThen she spoke, saying, “They used to say in old times, ‘They shall surely ask counsel at Abel,’ and so they settled a matter.

WMBB (Same as above)

NETShe said, “In the past they would always say, ‘Let them inquire in Abel,’ and that is how they settled things.

LSVAnd she speaks, saying, “They spoke often in former times, saying, Let them diligently inquire at Abel, and so they finished.

FBVThen the woman said, “In times gone by people used to say, ‘If you want advice, go to Abel,’ and that's how arguments were settled.

T4TShe said, “Long ago people used to say, ‘Go to Abel town to get good advice about your problems.’ And that is what people did.

LEBThen she said, “In former times, they would always say,[fn] ‘By all means, let them inquire in Abel,’ and so they settled things.


20:18 Literally “speaking they would speak”

BBEThen she said, In the old days, there was a saying, Let them put the question in Abel and in Dan, saying, Has what was ordered by men of good faith in Israel ever come to an end?

MoffNo Moff 2SA book available

JPSThen she spoke, saying: 'They were wont to speak in old time, saying: They shall surely ask counsel at Abel; and so they ended the matter.

ASVThen she spake, saying, They were wont to speak in old time, saying, They shall surely ask counsel at Abel: and so they ended the matter.

DRAAnd she again said: A saying was used in the old proverb: They that inquire, let them inquire in Abela: and so they made an end.

YLTand she speaketh, saying, 'They spake often in former times, saying, Let them diligently ask at Abel, and so they finished.

DrbyAnd she spoke saying, They were wont to speak in old time saying, Just inquire in Abel; and so they ended.

RVThen she spake, saying, they were wont to speak in old time, saying, They shall surely ask counsel at Abel: and so they ended the matter.

WbstrThen she spoke, saying, They were wont to speak in old time, saying, They will surely ask counsel at Abel: and so they ended the matter .

KJB-1769Then she spake, saying, They were wont to speak in old time, saying, They shall surely ask counsel at Abel: and so they ended the matter.[fn]


20.18 They were…: or, They plainly spake in the beginning, saying, Surely they will ask of Abel, and so make an end

KJB-1611[fn]Then she spake, saying, They were wont to speake in old time, saying, They shall surely aske counsell at Abel: and so they ended the matter.
   (Then she spake, saying, They were wont to speak in old time, saying, They shall surely ask counsell at Abel: and so they ended the matter.)


20:18 Or, They plainly spake in the beginning, saying, surely they will aske of Abel, and so make an end

BshpsThen she spake thus: They spake in the olde tyme, saying, They should aske of Abel: And so haue they continued.
   (Then she spake thus: They spake in the old time, saying, They should ask of Abel: And so have they continued.)

GnvaThen shee spake thus, They spake in the olde time, saying, They shoulde aske of Abel. and so haue they continued.
   (Then she spake thus, They spake in the old time, saying, They should ask of Abel. and so have they continued. )

CvdlShe sayde: The comonsayenge was somtyme: Who so wyll axe, let him axe at Abel, and so came it to a good ende.
   (She said: The comonsayenge was somtyme: Who so will axe, let him axe at Abel, and so came it to a good end.)

WyclAnd eft sche seide, A word was seid in eld prouerbe, Thei that axen, axe in Habela; and so thei profitiden.
   (And after she said, A word was said in old proverb, They that axen, axe in Habela; and so they profitiden.)

LuthSie sprach: Vorzeiten sprach man: Wer fragen will, der frage zu Abel; und so ging‘s wohl aus.
   (They/She spoke: Vorzeiten spoke man: Who fragen will, the/of_the frage to Abel; and so ging‘s probably out.)

ClVgRursumque illa: Sermo, inquit, dicebatur in veteri proverbio: Qui interrogant, interrogent in Abela: et sic perficiebant.
   (Rursumque illa: Sermo, inquit, dicebatur in veteri proverbio: Who interrogant, interrogent in Abela: and so perficiebant. )


TSNTyndale Study Notes:

20:18-19 The woman told a saying to convince Joab not to slaughter an entire city, especially such a noble city as Abel (a shortened form of Abel-beth-maacah, 20:15), just to capture one criminal.
• an important town in Israel (literally a town that is a mother in Israel): It was common to refer to outlying villages around a larger city as its “daughters.”


UTNuW Translation Notes:

(Occurrence 0) that advice would end the matter

(Some words not found in UHB: and=she/it_said to=say to_say say in/on/at/with,former_times to=say to_get_answer seek_counsel in/on/at/with,Abel and=thus/so/as_follows settled )

Alternate translation: “that advice would solve the problem”

BI 2Sa 20:18 ©