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InterlinearVerse GEN EXO LEV NUM DEU JOB JOS JDG RUTH 1 SAM 2 SAM PSA AMOS HOS 1 KI 2 KI 1 CHR 2 CHR PROV ECC SNG JOEL MIC ISA ZEP HAB JER LAM YNA (JNA) NAH OBA DAN EZE EZRA EST NEH HAG ZEC MAL LAO GES LES ESG DNG 2 PS TOB JDT WIS SIR BAR LJE PAZ SUS BEL MAN 1 MAC 2 MAC 3 MAC 4 MAC YHN MARK MAT LUKE ACTs YAC (JAM) GAL 1 TH 2 TH 1 COR 2 COR ROM COL PHM EPH PHP 1 TIM TIT 1 PET 2 PET 2 TIM HEB YUD (JUD) 1 YHN (1 JHN) 2 YHN (2 JHN) 3 YHN (3 JHN) REV
Yhn C1 C2 C3 C4 C5 C6 C7 C8 C9 C10 C11 C12 C13 C14 C15 C16 C17 C18 C19 C20 C21
Yhn 21 V1 V2 V3 V4 V5 V6 V7 V8 V9 V10 V11 V12 V13 V14 V15 V16 V17 V18 V19 V20 V21 V22 V24 V25
OET (OET-LV) Therefore this the statement came_out among the brothers, that the that apprentice/follower is_dying_off.
Not but the Yaʸsous not said to_him that He_is_ not _dying_off, but only:
If I_may_be_wanting him to_be_remaining until I_am_coming, what is_it to you?
OET (OET-RV) As a result of that, a rumour went around the others that that one wouldn’t die, but Yeshua never said that. (He only said, “If I want him to stay alive until I come back, what business would it be of yours?”)
Peter wanted to know what would happen to another of the disciples, the one that Jesus loved. However, Jesus told him that he did not have the right to know. The author then said that he was the disciple that Jesus loved. The Gospel closes with the statement that Jesus did too many miracles to record them all in this book.
Here are other possible section headings:
Peter and Jesus talked about the disciple whom Jesus loved
Peter did not need to know about what would happen to the disciple that Jesus loved
Jesus did not answer Peter about the disciple whom he loved
Peter asked Jesus what would happen to the disciple whom Jesus loved. Jesus did not answer Peter’s question, but just encouraged Peter to follow him.
This verse gives some information that is not part of the main story. The author explained that Jesus’ words to Peter were misunderstood by some of the disciples. He also emphasized what Jesus actually said.
Because of this, the rumor spread among the brothers that this disciple would not die.
Because of this, many in the Christian/believing community told the rumor that this disciple would not die.
This made/caused some of the believers to say to others that this follower would not die but would live until Jesus returned.
Because of this, the rumor spread among the brothers that this disciple would not die: Jesus’ response to Peter caused the other disciples to think that the beloved disciple would not die before Jesus returned. They talked about it with one another, and then with their families and friends. In this way the idea became common knowledge in the community. Here are other ways to translate this sentence:
So a rumor that this disciple wouldn’t die spread among Jesus’ followers. (GW)
This gave rise to the saying among the brothers that this disciple would not die. (JBP)
Because of this: The conjunction that the BSB translates as Because of this here indicates that the spread of this rumor was the result of what Jesus said in 21:22. Here are other ways to translate this conjunction:
So (NRSV)
This led to…
This caused…
the rumor spread among the brothers: The clause that the BSB translates as the rumor spread is more literally “the saying went out.” It refers to information that one person tells another and then that person tells others. In this case it was incorrect information. Translate the idiom the rumor spread in a way that is natural in your language. For example:
the rumor then went out among the brothers (NJB)
the story became widely known among all the disciples of Isa (Yakan Back Translation)
more and more followers of Jesus began to say/think that
In some languages it may be natural to make the brothers the subject of this clause. For example:
the community of believers began to spread the word that this disciple would not die
the followers of Jesus began to tell one another that this disciple would not die
the rumor: The expression that the BSB translates as the rumor is more literally “the word” or “the saying.” It refers to what the believers were telling one another, that John would not die. Use an expression that can refer to an incorrect assumption or piece of gossip. For example:
the saying (NET)
a story (NCV)
among the brothers: The phrase that the BSB translates as among the brothers is more literally “to the brothers.” It refers to the believers in general, both men and women. Christians were telling other Christians that Jesus said that the beloved disciple would not die. They thought that he would remain alive until Jesus returned to earth. Here are other ways to translate this phrase:
among the community of believers (NLT)
among the other disciples (CEV)
among the brothers and sisters (NET)
this disciple: This phrase refers to the beloved disciple, who was almost certainly John, the author of this Gospel. Refer back to the disciple mentioned in 21:20a–c and 21:22a in a way that is natural in your language. For example:
the disciple Jesus was talking about
that follower
would not die: This phrase implies that Christ would return before that disciple died, and so he would not have to die. The disciples believed that Jesus’ return would mark the beginning of the age when God’s people would not die.
However, Jesus did not say that he would not die,
But Jesus never said that that he would not die.
But Jesus never said that.
However, Jesus did not say that he would not die: In this clause the author corrected the wrong understanding of Jesus’ words that had become common in the community. Jesus did not promise that the beloved disciple would not die. Here are some other ways to translate this clause:
Jesus did not promise that that disciple would not die.
But Jesus never said that he would not die
But Jesus did not say, “He will not die”
but only, “If I want him to remain until I return, what is that to you?”
He only said to Peter, “If I want that man/disciple to remain alive until I come back, why do you(sing) need to know?”
He only said to Peter, “It should not matter to you(sing) if I want that follower to live until I return.”
Jesus only told Peter that it should not matter to him whether or not he wanted the other disciple to remain alive until he returned.
but: The Greek conjunction that the BSB translates as but here connects a negative statement (21:23b) to a positive statement (21:23c). This kind of sentence emphasizes the positive statement. Languages have different ways to indicate this type of emphasis. Here are some ways to show the emphasis:
Use the conjunction but as in the BSB.
yet Jesus did not say to him that he was not to die, but, “If it is my will that he remain until I come, what is that to you?” (ESV)
Use a conjunction other than but. This is a common way in English to show this type of emphasis. For example:
But Jesus did not say to him that he was not going to die, but rather, “If I want him to live until I come back, what concern is that of yours?” (NET)
Do not use a conjunction. For example:
But Jesus did not say that he would not die; he only said, “If I want him to remain alive until I return, what is that to you?” (NIV)
But Jesus didn’t say that he wouldn’t die. What Jesus said was, “If I want him to live until I come again, how does that concern you?” (GW)
Change the order of the clauses. For example:
But Jesus said, “If it is my will that he remain alive until I come again, you do not need to know that.” He did not say that that disciple would not die.
You should translate this emphasis in the way that is most natural in your language.
If I want him to remain until I return, what is that to you?: This quotation repeats exactly the quotation in 21:22a. Translate it as you did there. In some languages, it may be more natural to use an indirect quotation like that in 21:23b. For example:
But Jesus only said that it did not concern Peter if he wanted the other disciple to remain alive until he himself returned.
Note 1 topic: figures-of-speech / metonymy
οὗτος ὁ λόγος
this ¬the statement
Here, this word refers to what the brothers say about John’s future in the next clause. If this might confuse your readers, you could express the meaning plainly. Alternate translation: [the following report about John’s future]
Note 2 topic: figures-of-speech / metaphor
ἐξῆλθεν & οὗτος ὁ λόγος
came_out & this ¬the statement
John uses spread to refer to this word being repeated among the believers. If this might confuse your readers, you could express the meaning plainly. Alternate translation: [this word was repeated]
Note 3 topic: figures-of-speech / gendernotations
τοὺς ἀδελφοὺς
(Some words not found in SR-GNT: ἐξῆλθεν Οὖν οὗτος ὁ λόγος εἰς τούς ἀδελφούς ὅτι ὁ μαθητής ἐκεῖνος οὐκ ἀποθνῄσκει Οὐκ εἶπεν δέ αὐτῷ ὁ Ἰησοῦς ὅτι Οὐκ ἀποθνῄσκει ἀλλʼ Ἐάν αὐτόν θέλω μένειν ἕως ἔρχομαι τί πρός σέ)
Although the term brothers is masculine, John is using the word here in a generic sense that includes both men and women. Alternate translation: [the fellow believers]
Note 4 topic: figures-of-speech / explicit
ὁ μαθητὴς ἐκεῖνος
¬the ¬the ¬the (Some words not found in SR-GNT: ἐξῆλθεν Οὖν οὗτος ὁ λόγος εἰς τούς ἀδελφούς ὅτι ὁ μαθητής ἐκεῖνος οὐκ ἀποθνῄσκει Οὐκ εἶπεν δέ αὐτῷ ὁ Ἰησοῦς ὅτι Οὐκ ἀποθνῄσκει ἀλλʼ Ἐάν αὐτόν θέλω μένειν ἕως ἔρχομαι τί πρός σέ)
Here, that disciple refers to the apostle John. You could include this information if that would be helpful to your readers.
Note 5 topic: figures-of-speech / pastforfuture
οὐκ ἀποθνῄσκει & ὅτι οὐκ ἀποθνῄσκει
not ˓is˒_dying_off & that (Some words not found in SR-GNT: ἐξῆλθεν Οὖν οὗτος ὁ λόγος εἰς τούς ἀδελφούς ὅτι ὁ μαθητής ἐκεῖνος οὐκ ἀποθνῄσκει Οὐκ εἶπεν δέ αὐτῷ ὁ Ἰησοῦς ὅτι Οὐκ ἀποθνῄσκει ἀλλʼ Ἐάν αὐτόν θέλω μένειν ἕως ἔρχομαι τί πρός σέ)
John is using the present tense in order to refer to something that will happen in the future. If this might confuse your readers, you could use the future tense. Alternate translation: [will not die … that he will not die]
Note 6 topic: writing-pronouns
αὐτῷ
˱to˲_him
The pronoun him here refers to Peter. If this might confuse your readers, you could state that explicitly, as in the UST.
Note 7 topic: writing-pronouns
ὅτι οὐκ ἀποθνῄσκει & αὐτὸν
that that (Some words not found in SR-GNT: ἐξῆλθεν Οὖν οὗτος ὁ λόγος εἰς τούς ἀδελφούς ὅτι ὁ μαθητής ἐκεῖνος οὐκ ἀποθνῄσκει Οὐκ εἶπεν δέ αὐτῷ ὁ Ἰησοῦς ὅτι Οὐκ ἀποθνῄσκει ἀλλʼ Ἐάν αὐτόν θέλω μένειν ἕως ἔρχομαι τί πρός σέ)
The pronouns he and him here refer to John. If this might confuse your readers, you could state that explicitly, as in the UST.
ἐὰν αὐτὸν θέλω μένειν ἕως ἔρχομαι, τί πρὸς σέ
(Some words not found in SR-GNT: ἐξῆλθεν Οὖν οὗτος ὁ λόγος εἰς τούς ἀδελφούς ὅτι ὁ μαθητής ἐκεῖνος οὐκ ἀποθνῄσκει Οὐκ εἶπεν δέ αὐτῷ ὁ Ἰησοῦς ὅτι Οὐκ ἀποθνῄσκει ἀλλʼ Ἐάν αὐτόν θέλω μένειν ἕως ἔρχομαι τί πρός σέ)
See how you translated this sentence in the previous verse.
21:23 Jesus’ words to Peter spread, causing some to conclude that John would not die until Jesus returned in his second coming. Jesus’ rebuke to Peter (21:22) is repeated to answer that rumor. Those among the community of believers who believed this rumor were thus instructed to abandon any speculation about John. According to tradition, John died peacefully in Ephesus at an old age, surrounded by fellow believers.
OET (OET-LV) Therefore this the statement came_out among the brothers, that the that apprentice/follower is_dying_off.
Not but the Yaʸsous not said to_him that He_is_ not _dying_off, but only:
If I_may_be_wanting him to_be_remaining until I_am_coming, what is_it to you?
OET (OET-RV) As a result of that, a rumour went around the others that that one wouldn’t die, but Yeshua never said that. (He only said, “If I want him to stay alive until I come back, what business would it be of yours?”)
Note: The OET-RV is still only a first draft, and so far only a few words have been (mostly automatically) matched to the Hebrew or Greek words that they’re translated from.
Acknowledgements: The SR Greek text, lemmas, morphology, and VLT gloss are all thanks to the CNTR.