JOB 17:16 Parallel Verse View

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OET (OET-RV) Will they go down to the gates of the grave?
⇔ ≈Will we go down together into the ground?

Key: khaki:verbs.
Note: Automatic aligning of the OET-RV to the LV is done by some temporary software, hence the OET-RV alignments are incomplete (and may occasionally be wrong).

BrLXX Ἢ μετʼ ἐμοῦ εἰς ᾅδην καταβήσονται; ἢ ὁμοθυμαδὸν ἐπὶ χώματος καταβησόμεθα;
(Aʸ metʼ emou eis hadaʸn katabaʸsontai; aʸ homothumadon epi ⱪōmatos katabaʸsometha; )

BrTr Will they go down with me to Hades, or shall we go down together to the tomb?

ULT Will they descend to the bars of Sheol?
⇔ If our rest will be together in the dust?”

UST It would be as if everything I hoped for were going to the place where dead people go.
⇔ Yes, it would be as if people were burying the things I have hoped for with me in a grave.”

BSB Will it go down to the gates of Sheol?
⇔ Will we go down together into the dust?”

OEB Will it go with me down to the grave?
⇔ Shall we sink to the dust together?

WEBBE Shall it go down with me to the gates of Sheol,[fn]
⇔ or descend together into the dust?”

17:16 Sheol is the place of the dead.

WMBB (Same as above including footnotes)

NET Will it go down to the barred gates of death?
⇔ Will we descend together into the dust?”

LSV You go down [to] the parts of Sheol,
If we may rest together on the dust.”

FBV Will hope go down with me to the gates of Sheol? Will we go down together into the dust?”

T4T After I descend to the place where the dead are, ◄will I be able to confidently expect anything good there?/I certainly will not be able to confidently expect anything good there.► [RHQ]
⇔ It will be as though [RHQ] I and the things I hope for will descend with me into the dust where the dead are.”

LEB • to the bars of Sheol? Or shall we descend together into the dust?”

BBE Will they go down with me into the underworld? Will we go down together into the dust?

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JPS They shall go down to the bars of the nether-world, when we are at rest together in the dust.

ASV It shall go down to the bars of Sheol,
⇔ When once there is rest in the dust.

DRA All that I have shall go down into the deepest pit: thinkest thou that there at least I shall have rest?

YLT [To] the parts of Sheol ye go down, If together on the dust we may rest.

Drby It shall go down to the bars of Sheol, when [our] rest shall be together in the dust.

RV It shall go down to the bars of Sheol, when once there is rest in the dust.

Wbstr They shall go down to the bars of the pit, when our rest together is in the dust.

KJB-1769 They shall go down to the bars of the pit, when our rest together is in the dust.

KJB-1611 They shall goe downe to the barres of the pit, when our rest together is in the dust.
(Modernised spelling is same as from KJB-1769 above)

Bshps These shall go downe with me into the pit, and lye with me in the dust.
(These shall go down with me into the pit, and lye with me in the dust.)

Gnva They shall goe downe into the bottome of the pit: surely it shall lye together in the dust.
(They shall go down into the bottom of the pit: surely it shall lye together in the dust. )

Cvdl All that I haue, shall go downe in to the pytt, & lye with me in the dust.
(All that I have, shall go down in to the pytt, and lye with me in the dust.)

Wycl Alle my thingis schulen go doun in to deppeste helle; gessist thou, whether reste schal be to me, nameli there.
(All my things should go down in to deppeste helle; gessist thou/you, whether rest shall be to me, nameli there.)

Luth Hinunter in die Hölle wird es fahren und wird mit mir im Staube liegen.
(Hinunter in the hell becomes it fahren and becomes with to_me in_the dust lie/lay.)

ClVg In profundissimum infernum descendent omnia mea: putasne saltem ibi erit requies mihi?][fn]
(In profundissimum infernum descendent everything mea: putasne saltem there will_be requies mihi?] )

17.16 In profundissimum infernum descendent omnia mea. Ante mediatoris adventum Job in infernum descensurus erat, etc., usque ad retributio adhuc in sola inferni quiete recipi præstolabatur. Putasne saltem sibi erit requies mihi? Pensandum est quis nostrum de requie securus sit: si de ea trepidat et ille, cujus virtutis præconia et ipse judex qui percutit, clamat.

17.16 In profundissimum infernum descendent everything my. Ante mediatoris adventum Yob in infernum descensurus was, etc., until to retributio adhuc in sola inferni quiete recipi præstolabatur. Putasne saltem sibi will_be requies mihi? Pensandum it_is who/any nostrum about requie securus let_it_be: when/but_if about ea trepidat and ille, cuyus of_virtue præconia and exactly_that/himself yudex who percutit, clamat.

UTN uW Translation Notes:

Note 1 topic: figures-of-speech / rquestion

בַּדֵּ֣י שְׁאֹ֣ל תֵּרַ֑דְנָה אִם־יַ֖חַד עַל־עָפָ֣ר נָֽחַת

bars sheol go_down if together on/upon/above/on_account_of//he/it_went_in dust descend

Job is using the question form for emphasis. If you would not use the question form for that purpose in your language, you could translate these questions as statements or as exclamations. Alternate translation: “Then they would descend to the bars of Sheol! Then our rest would be together in the dust!”

Note 2 topic: translate-plural

תֵּרַ֑דְנָה

go_down

The pronoun they refers to the hope that Job described in the previous verse. Job may be using a plural term to speak of the hope that he said would not be and the hope that he said no one would see, even though this is basically the same hope. If it would be more natural in your language, you could use a singular pronoun in your translation. Alternate translation: “Will it descend” or, as a statement, “Then it would descend”

Note 3 topic: figures-of-speech / metonymy

בַּדֵּ֣י שְׁאֹ֣ל

bars sheol

Job is using the term bars to mean “gates,” by association with the way that bars keep a gate locked. If it would be helpful in your language, you could state the meaning plainly. Alternate translation: “to the gates of Sheol”

Note 4 topic: figures-of-speech / explicit

בַּדֵּ֣י שְׁאֹ֣ל

bars sheol

Job means implicitly that if his hope went down to the bars or gates of Sheol, it would be admitted there. You could indicate that in your translation if it would be helpful to your readers. Alternate translation: “to Sheol and be admitted there”

Note 5 topic: figures-of-speech / euphemism

אִם־יַ֖חַד עַל־עָפָ֣ר נָֽחַת

if together on/upon/above/on_account_of//he/it_went_in dust descend

When Job speaks of having rest in the dust, he means having died. This is a poetic way of referring to death. Your language may have a similar expression that you could use in your translation. Alternate translation: “Will we die together” or “Will my hope die with me”

Note 6 topic: figures-of-speech / personification

אִם־יַ֖חַד עַל־עָפָ֣ר נָֽחַת

if together on/upon/above/on_account_of//he/it_went_in dust descend

Job is speaking of his hope as if it were a living thing that could have rest. If it would be helpful in your language, you could state the meaning plainly. Alternate translation: “Do I have nothing more to hope for in this life”

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