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Parallel JOS 9:8

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Text critical issues=none Clarity of original=clear Importance to us=normal Speaker(s)=Narrator,Yehoshua (All still tentative.)

OET (OET-RV) They addressed Yehoshua, “We are your servants.”
 ¶ Yehoshua asked them, “Who are you? And where have you come from?”OET logo mark

OET-LV And_they_said to Yəhōshūˊa/(Joshua) your_servants we and_he/it_said to_them Yəhōshūˊa who are_you(pl) and_from_where do_you(pl)_come.OET logo mark

UHB וַ⁠יֹּאמְר֥וּ אֶל־יְהוֹשֻׁ֖עַ עֲבָדֶ֣י⁠ךָ אֲנָ֑חְנוּ וַ⁠יֹּ֨אמֶר אֲלֵ⁠הֶ֧ם יְהוֹשֻׁ֛עַ מִ֥י אַתֶּ֖ם וּ⁠מֵ⁠אַ֥יִן תָּבֹֽאוּ׃ ‡
   (va⁠yyoʼmərū ʼel-yəhōshuˊa ˊₐⱱādey⁠kā ʼₐnāḩənū va⁠yyoʼmer ʼₐlē⁠hem yəhōshuˊa miy ʼattem ū⁠mē⁠ʼayin tāⱱoʼū.)

Key: khaki:verbs.
Note: Automatic aligning of the OET-RV to the LV is done by some temporary software, hence the OET-RV alignments are incomplete (and may occasionally be wrong).

BrLXX Καὶ εἶπαν πρὸς Ἰησοῦν, οἰκεται σου ἐσμέν· καὶ εἶπε πρὸς αὐτοὺς Ἰησοῦς, πόθεν ἐστὲ, καὶ πόθεν παραγεγόνατε;
   (Kai eipan pros Yaʸsoun, oiketai sou esmen; kai eipe pros autous Yaʸsous, pothen este, kai pothen paragegonate;)

BrTr And they said to Joshua, We are thy servants: and Joshua said to them, Whence are ye, and whence have ye come?


ULT And they said to Joshua, “We, are your servants.” And Joshua said to them, “Who are you, and where have you come from?”

UST But they replied to Joshua, “We are willing to become your subjects.” But Joshua answered, “What people-group do you belong to, and from what place did you come from?”

BSB & MSB “We are your servants,” they said to Joshua.
 § Then Joshua asked them, “Who are you and where have you come from?”

OEB ‘We are at your service,’ they said to Joshua. ‘But who are you,’ Joshua asked, ‘and where do you come from?’

WEBBE & WMBB They said to Joshua, “We are your servants.”
 ¶ Joshua said to them, “Who are you? Where do you come from?”

NET But they said to Joshua, “We are willing to be your subjects.” So Joshua said to them, “Who are you and where do you come from?”

LSV And they say to Joshua, “We [are] your servants.” And Joshua says to them, “Who [are] you? And where do you come from?”

FBV “We are your servants,” they replied.
 ¶ “But who are you? Where do you come from?” Joshua asked.

T4T They replied to Joshua, “If you make a peace agreement with us, we will be your servants.”
 ¶ But Joshua answered, “What people-group are you? Where do you come from?”

LEB They said to Joshua, “We are your servants.” And Joshua said to them, “Who are you, and from where do you come?”

BBE And they said to Joshua, We are your servants. Then Joshua said to them, Who are you and where do you come from?

Moff “We are at your service,” they said to Joshua. “But who are you,” Joshua asked, “and where do you come from?”

JPS And they said unto Joshua: 'We are thy servants.' And Joshua said unto them: 'Who are ye? and from whence come ye?'

ASV And they said unto Joshua, We are thy servants. And Joshua said unto them, Who are ye? and from whence come ye?

DRA But they said to Josue: We are thy servants. Josue said to them: Who are you? and whence came you?

YLT and they say unto Joshua, 'Thy servants we [are].' And Joshua saith unto them, 'Who [are] ye? and whence come ye?'

Drby And they said unto Joshua, We are thy servants. And Joshua said to them, Who are ye? and from whence come ye?

RV And they said unto Joshua, We are thy servants. And Joshua said unto them, Who are ye? and from whence come ye?
   (And they said unto Joshua, We are thy/your servants. And Joshua said unto them, Who are ye/you_all? and from whence/where come ye/you_all?)

SLT And they will say to Joshua, We thy servants. And Joshua will say to them, Who are ye? and from whence will ye come?

Wbstr And they said to Joshua, we are thy servants. And Joshua said to them, Who are ye? and whence come ye?

KJB-1769 And they said unto Joshua, We are thy servants. And Joshua said unto them, Who are ye? and from whence come ye?
   (And they said unto Joshua, We are thy/your servants. And Joshua said unto them, Who are ye/you_all? and from whence/where come ye/you_all?)

KJB-1611 And they said vnto Ioshua, Wee are thy seruants. And Ioshua said vnto them, Who are ye? And from whence come ye?
   (Modernised spelling is same as from KJB-1769 above, apart from capitalisation)

Bshps And they sayde vnto Iosuah: We are thy seruauntes. And Iosuah sayde vnto them againe: What are ye, & whence come ye?
   (And they said unto Yoshua: We are thy/your servants. And Yoshua said unto them again: What are ye/you_all, and whence/where come ye/you_all?)

Gnva And they said vnto Ioshua, We are thy seruants. Then Ioshua saide vnto them, Who are ye? and whence come ye?
   (And they said unto Yoshua, We are thy/your servants. Then Yoshua said unto them, Who are ye/you_all? and whence/where come ye/you_all?)

Cvdl They saide vnto Iosua: We are yi seruautes. Iosua sayde vnto them: What are ye, & whence come ye?
   (They said unto Yoshua: We are ye/you_all servants. Yoshua said unto them: What are ye/you_all, and whence/where come ye/you_all?)

Wycl And thei seiden to Josue, We ben thi seruauntis. To whiche Josue seide, What men ben ye, and fro whennus camen ye?
   (And they said to Yosue, We been thy/your servants. To which Yosue said, What men been ye/you_all, and from whence/where came ye/you_all?)

Luth Sie aber sprachen zu Josua: Wir sind deine Knechte. Josua sprach zu ihnen: Wer seid ihr und von wannen kommt ihr?
   (They/She but said to/for Yosua: We are your servant(s). Yosua spoke to/for to_them: Who are you(pl)/their/her and from_where comes you(pl)/their/her?)

ClVg At illi ad Josue: Servi, inquiunt, tui sumus. Quibus Josue ait: Quinam estis vos? et unde venistis?
   (But them to Yosue: Servi, inquiunt, yours(sg) we_are. To_whom Yosue he_said: Whyam you_are you(pl)? and from_where/who you_came?)


HAP Hebrew accents and phrasing: See Allan Johnson's Hebrew accents and phrasing analysis.

SOTN SIL Open Translator’s Notes:

Section 9:1–27 The Gibeonites deceived the Israelites

The Gibeonite people lived near Ai. When they heard that Joshua had defeated Ai, they were afraid that he would conquer and kill them too. So, they sent messengers who pretended they had come from a long distance away. They deceived the Israelites and made a treaty of friendship with them.

Later, the Israelites learned that the Gibeonites lied to them, and that they lived quite close to them. They could not kill them because of the treaty, so they made them be water carriers and woodcutters for the Israelites.

Here are some other possible section headings:

The people of Gibeon

The Gibeon people tricked the Israelites and made a treaty with them

9:8a

“We are your servants,” they said to Joshua.

We are your servants: The sentence We are your servants indicates that the Gibeonites wanted to accept Joshua as their leader and to become part of the Israelite nation.

Here are some other ways to translate this phrase:

we are willing to be your subjects (NET)

we acknowledge you as our masters

they said to Joshua: The word they refers to the Gibeonites. It may be helpful to make this explicit.

Here is another way to translate this phrase:

the Gibeonites said to Joshua

9:8b

Then Joshua asked them, “Who are you and where have you come from?”

Then: The word Then indicates the next event in the storyline. Indicate this in a natural way in your language.

Who are you and where have you come from?: The question Who are you…? indicates that Joshua wanted to know their nationality. The question where have you come from? indicates that Joshua wanted to know where the Gibeonites lived. These two questions together emphasize that Joshua wanted to be sure about who these men were. It may be more natural in some languages to combine these two questions in a way that shows this emphasis. For example:

Tell me from exactly from where you have come.

I must know for sure from what town and nation you have come.


UTN uW Translation Notes:

Note 1 topic: figures-of-speech / explicit

עֲבָדֶ֣י⁠ךָ אֲנָ֑חְנוּ

your=servants we

By saying We are your servants, the Gibeonites do not mean that they are willing to become slaves, such as they eventually do become in this episode. Rather, they are agreeing to let Joshua be their ruler. They mean implicitly that they will accept the terms he specifies, such as paying tribute. You could indicate this explicitly in your translation if that would be helpful to your readers. Alternate translation: [We are willing to serve you as our ruler]

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