JOB 8:11 Parallel Verse View

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OET (OET-RV) ⇔ Can papyrus grow tall where there’s no swamp?
⇔ Can reeds grow where there’s no water?

Key: khaki:verbs, red:negative.
Note: Automatic aligning of the OET-RV to the LV is done by some temporary software, hence the OET-RV alignments are incomplete (and may occasionally be wrong).

BrLXX Μὴ θάλλει πάπυρος ἄνευ ὕδατος, ἢ ὑψωθήσεται βούτομον ἄνευ πότου;
(Maʸ thallei papuros aneu hudatos, aʸ hupsōthaʸsetai boutomon aneu potou; )

BrTr Does the rush flourish without water, or shall the flag grow up without moisture?

UST Papyrus certainly does not grow away from marshland.
⇔ No, reeds certainly cannot grow where there is no water.

BSB Does papyrus grow where there is no marsh?
⇔ Do reeds flourish without water?

OEB Can the rush shoot high without swamp,
⇔ Or the reed grow up without water?

WEBBE ⇔ “Can the papyrus grow up without mire?
⇔ Can the rushes grow without water?

WMBB (Same as above)

NET Can the papyrus plant grow tall where there is no marsh?
⇔ Can reeds flourish without water?

LSV Does a rush rise without a marsh? A reed increase without water?

FBV Can papyrus grow where there is no marsh? Can reeds grow without water?

T4T Papyrus can certainly not [RHQ] grow in places where there is no marsh/swamp;
⇔ reeds certainly cannot [RHQ] flourish/grow where there is no water.

LEB • there is not a marsh? Will reeds flourish without water?[fn]

8:1 Or “where there is no water”

BBE Will the river-plant come up in its pride without wet earth? will the grass get tall without water?

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JPS Can the rush shoot up without mire? Can the reed-grass grow without water?

ASV ⇔ Can the rush grow up without mire?
⇔ Can the flag grow without water?

DRA Can the rush be green without moisture? or a sedge-bush grow without water?

YLT 'Doth a rush wise without mire? A reed increase without water?

Drby Doth the papyrus shoot up without mire? doth the reed-grass grow without water?

RV Can the rush grow up without mire? can the flag grow without water?

Wbstr Can the rush grow without mire? can the flag grow without water?

KJB-1769 Can the rush grow up without mire? can the flag grow without water?

KJB-1611 Can the rush growe vp without myre? can the flag growe without water?
(Can the rush growe up without myre? can the flag growe without water?)

Bshps May a rushe be greene without moystnesse? or may the grasse growe without water?
(May a rushe be greene without moystnesse? or may the grass growe without water?)

Gnva Can a rush grow without myre? or can ye grasse growe without water?
(Can a rush grow without myre? or can ye/you_all grass growe without water? )

Cvdl Maye a resshe be grene without moystnesse? maye the grasse growe without water?
(May a resshe be grene without moystnesse? may the grass growe without water?)

Wyc Whether a rusche may lyue with out moysture? ethir a spier `may wexe with out watir?
(Whether a rusche may live with out moysture? ethir a spier `may wexe with out water?)

Luth Kann auch das Schilf aufwachsen, wo es nicht feucht stehet, oder Gras wachsen ohne Wasser?
(Kann also the Schilf aufwachsen, where it not feucht stands, or Gras wachsen without water?)

ClVg Numquid vivere potest scirpus absque humore? aut crescere carectum sine aqua?[fn]
(Numquid vivere potest scirpus without humore? aut crescere carectum without water? )

8.11 Nunquid vivere potest. Ibid. Scirpo vel carecto hypocritam comparat, etc., usque ad sed alienis criminibus ostendat. Ante omnes herbas. Ibid. Et justi herbæ, secundum carnem, quia omnis caro fenum Isa. 48.; qui arescunt, quia eorum opera cum carnis vita deficiunt. Sed hypocritarum ante: quia mox bona deserunt, ut ea consecuti sunt, propter quæ simulaverunt. Hi sunt fenum tectorum, quod priusquam evellatur, exaruit.

8.11 Nunquid vivere potest. Ibid. Scirpo or carecto hypocritam comparat, etc., until to but alienis criminibus ostendat. Ante everyone herbas. Ibid. And justi herbæ, after/second carnem, because everyone caro fenum Isa. 48.; who arescunt, because their opera when/with carnis vita deficiunt. But hypocritarum ante: because mox good deserunt, as ea consecuti are, propter which simulaverunt. They are fenum tectorum, that first/beforequam evellatur, exaruit.

UTN uW Translation Notes:

Note 1 topic: figures-of-speech / quotemarks

הֲ⁠יִֽגְאֶה־גֹּ֭מֶא בְּ⁠לֹ֣א בִצָּ֑ה יִשְׂגֶּה־אָ֥חוּ בְלִי־מָֽיִם

?,grow papyrus in/on/at/with,no marsh flourish reeds without water

From here to the end of the chapter, Bildad may be quoting the teaching of the ancestors. This would be a second-level quotation, since the book is already quoting Bildad’s speech. If you think it would be helpful to your readers, you could indicate the start of this possible quotation from tradition with an opening second-level quotation mark or with some other punctuation or convention that your language uses to indicate the start of a second-level quotation.

Note 2 topic: figures-of-speech / rquestion

הֲ⁠יִֽגְאֶה־גֹּ֭מֶא בְּ⁠לֹ֣א בִצָּ֑ה יִשְׂגֶּה־אָ֥חוּ בְלִי־מָֽיִם

?,grow papyrus in/on/at/with,no marsh flourish reeds without water

Bildad is using the question form for emphasis. If you would not use the question form for that purpose in your language, you could translate these questions as statements or as exclamations. Alternate translation: “Papyrus does not grow without a marsh. A reed does not grow without waters.”

Note 3 topic: translate-unknown

גֹּ֭מֶא

papyrus

The word papyrus describes a tall, reed-like plant that grows in shallow water. If your readers would not be familiar with what papyrus is, in your translation you could use the name of a comparable plant in your area, or you could use a general expression. Alternate translation: “a bulrush” or “a cattail”

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