PROV 29:8 Parallel Verse View

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BrLXX Ἄνδρες ἄνομοι ἐξέκαυσαν πόλιν, σοφοὶ δὲ ἀπέστρεψαν ὀργήν.
(Andres anomoi exekausan polin, sofoi de apestrepsan orgaʸn. )

UST People who mock others agitate people throughout a city,
⇔ but wise people enable others to remain calm.

OEB No OEB PROV book available

WEBBE Mockers stir up a city,
⇔ but wise men turn away anger.

WMBB (Same as above)

NET Scornful people inflame a city,
⇔ but those who are wise turn away wrath.

LSV Men of scorning ensnare a city,
And the wise turn back anger.

FBV Cynical people can inflame a whole city, but the wise calm angry people down.

T4T ⇔ Those who make fun of everything that is good say things that cause everyone in the city to ◄be agitated/in turmoil►;
⇔ those who are wise enable people to remain calm.

LEB • Men of scoffing set a city aflame, but the wise turn away wrath.

BBE Men of pride are the cause of violent acts in a town, but by wise men wrath is turned away.

Moff Unscrupulous men kindle strife in a city:
⇔ the sensible discourage party-spirit.

JPS Scornful men set a city in a blaze; but wise men turn away wrath.

ASV Scoffers set a city in a flame;
⇔ But wise men turn away wrath.

DRA Corrupt men bring a city to ruin: but wise men turn away wrath.

YLT Men of scorning ensnare a city, And the wise turn back anger.

Drby Scornful men set the city in a flame; but the wise turn away anger.

RV Scornful men set a city in a flame: but wise men turn away wrath.

SLT Men of derision will kindle up a city: and the wise will turn away anger.

Wbstr Scornful men bring a city into a snare: but wise men turn away wrath.

KJB-1769 Scornful men bring a city into a snare: but wise men turn away wrath.[fn]

29.8 bring…: or, set a city on fire

KJB-1611 [fn]Scornefull men bring a citie into a snare: but wise men turne away wrath.
(Scornefull men bring a city into a snare: but wise men turn away wrath.)

29:8 Or, set a citie on fire.

Bshps Scornefull men bryng a citie into a snare: but wise men turne away wrath.
(Scornefull men bring a city into a snare: but wise men turn away wrath.)

Gnva Scornefull men bring a citie into a snare: but wise men turne away wrath.
(Scornefull men bring a city into a snare: but wise men turn away wrath. )

Cvdl Wicked people brynge a cite in decaye, but wyse men set it vp agayne.
(Wicked people bring a cite in decaye, but wise men set it up again.)

Wycl Men ful of pestilence distryen a citee; but wise men turnen awei woodnesse.
(Men full of pestilence distryen a city; but wise men turn away madness/wildness.)

Luth Die Spötter bringen frechlich eine Stadt in Unglück; aber die Weisen stillen den Zorn.
(The mockers bring/get cheekylich a/one city in accident/misfortune/disaster; but the ways/manners still(v)n the anger.)

ClVg Homines pestilentes dissipant civitatem; sapientes vero avertunt furorem.
(Homines pestilentes dissipant the_city; wise_people indeed/however avertunt fury. )

SOTN SIL Open Translator’s Notes:

Section 25:1–29:27: This is Hezekiah’s collection of Solomon’s proverbs

This section is the second collection of Solomon’s proverbs. These proverbs were organized and copied by men who served King Hezekiah. Most scholars divide this section into two groups. These groups differ in several ways.

The first group (chapters 25–27) has many more comparisons and admonitions. In Hebrew, most of these comparisons are metaphors in which one or more illustrations precede the topic. Some English versions change the order so that the topic precedes the illustration(s). You should follow the order that expresses the meaning naturally and effectively in your language.

In the first group, many proverbs are one verse long. As with the individual proverbs in the main collection of Solomon’s proverbs (Section 10:1–22:16), they are not related to the proverbs around them. Other proverbs in this group are two or more verses long. Still others are one-verse proverbs that are closely related in theme. Proverbs in all three categories will be marked as separate paragraphs.

The second group (chapters 28–29) has more contrastive proverbs. The proverbs in this group are each one verse long. They will not be marked as separate paragraphs.

Some other headings for this section are:

More Proverbs of Solomon (NIV)

Proverbs of Solomon Collected by Hezekiah (NET)

These are also wise things that Solomon said

29:8

This proverb is about the effect of two different kinds of people on a city. Notice the parallel parts that contrast in meaning:

^8a Mockers inflame a city,

^8bbut the wise turn away anger.

29:8a

Mockers inflame a city,

Mockers cause trouble/disorder in their city,
Arrogant people who mock the opinions of their townmates are like a person who blows on burning coals. They cause the angry people in the city to riot.

Mockers: Mockers are arrogant people who treat others with scorn. This verse does not specify what mockers mock. If it is necessary to make explicit what they mock, the implied information in this context is probably the opinions of rival groups of people in the city. For example:

People who make fun of the opinions of their townmates

See mocker in the Glossary.

inflame a city: In Hebrew, this phrase is literally “blow a city.” The topic of this metaphor is a person who causes increasing disorder in a city. The illustration is a person who blows or fans hot coals into flame.UBS (p. 607), Cohen (p. 194). Some other ways to translate this metaphor are:

Use a similar metaphor in your language. For example:
Sneering at others is a spark that sets a city on fire (CEV)
Scoffers set a city aflame (ESV)
Change the metaphor to a simile. For example:
A mocker causes disorder throughout a city. He is like someone who fans hot coals into a blazing fire.
Translate the meaning without using a figure of speech. For example:
Mockers create an uproar in a city (GW)

29:8b

but the wise turn away anger.

but people who are wise restore order/peace.
Wise people are able to calm/cool the hot tempers of their angry townmates.

but the wise turn away anger: This line means that wise people are able to calm down angry people and restore order in a city. Some other ways to translate this line are:

but the wise will calm anger (NET)

but people who are wise will cause their townmates to stop being angry

In some languages, it may be possible to use a figure of speech that contrasts with the metaphor in the first line. For example:

using good sense can put out the flames of anger (CEV)

UTN uW Translation Notes:

Note 1 topic: figures-of-speech / possession

אַנְשֵׁ֣י לָ֭צוֹן

men_of scoffing

Here Solomon is using the possessive form to describe Men who are characterized by mockery. If your language would not use the possessive form for this, you could use a different expression. Alternate translation: “Men who are mockers”

Note 2 topic: figures-of-speech / metaphor

יָפִ֣יחוּ

set_~_aflame

Here Solomon refers to people causing the people in a city to become angry and violent as if they were setting the city on fire. If it would be helpful in your language, you could express the meaning plainly or use a simile. Alternate translation: “enrage” or “cause turmoil in”

Note 3 topic: figures-of-speech / metonymy

קִרְיָ֑ה

city

Here, city refers to the people who live in a city. See how you translated the same use of city in [11:10](../11/10.md).

Note 4 topic: figures-of-speech / idiom

יָשִׁ֥יבוּ אָֽף

turn_away anger

Here Solomon refers to people ceasing to feel angry as if they were turning their noses away from the person with whom they are angry. See how you translated the similar phrase “turns away his nose” in [24:18](../24/18.md).

Parallel PROV 29:8

Section 25:1–29:27: This is Hezekiah’s collection of Solomon’s proverbs

29:8

29:8a

29:8b