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Parallel EXO 17:16

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BI Exo 17:16 ©

Text critical issues=none Clarity of original=clearImportance=normal(All still tentative.)

OET (OET-RV)saying, “Because they battled against Yah’s throne, then Yahweh will battle against Amalek from generation to generation.”

OET-LVAnd_he/it_said if/because a_hand [was]_on the_throne of_Yah war to/for_YHWH in/on/at/with_ˊAmālēq from_generation generation.

UHBוַ⁠יֹּ֗אמֶר כִּֽי־יָד֙ עַל־כֵּ֣ס יָ֔הּ מִלְחָמָ֥ה לַ⁠יהוָ֖ה בַּֽ⁠עֲמָלֵ֑ק מִ⁠דֹּ֖ר דֹּֽר׃פ
   (va⁠yyoʼmer kiy-yād ˊal-kēş yāh milḩāmāh la⁠yhvāh ba⁠ˊₐmālēq mi⁠ddor dor.◊)

Key: khaki:verbs, green:YHWH.
Note: Automatic aligning of the OET-RV to the LV is done by some temporary software, hence the OET-RV alignments are incomplete (and may occasionally be wrong).

BrLXXὍτι ἐν χειρὶ κρυφαίᾳ πολεμεῖ Κύριος ἐπὶ Ἀμαλὴκ ἀπὸ γενεῶν εἰς γενεάς.
   (Hoti en ⱪeiri krufaia polemei Kurios epi Amalaʸk apo geneōn eis geneas. )

BrTrFor with a secret hand the Lord wages war upon Amalec to all generations.

ULTAnd he said, “Because a hand was against the throne of Yah, war is to Yahweh against Amalek from generation to generation.”

USTHe said, “Because they fought against him, Yahweh will fight against the people of Amalek forever!”
¶ 

BSB“Indeed,” he said, “a hand was lifted up toward the throne of the LORD. The LORD will war against Amalek from generation to generation.”


OEBNo OEB EXO book available

WEBBEHe said, “The LORD[fn] has sworn: ‘The LORD[fn] will have war with Amalek from generation to generation.’ ”


17:16 Hebrew: יה Yah

17:16 LORD or GOD in all caps is from the Hebrew יהוה Yahweh except when otherwise noted as being from the short form יה Yah.

WMBBHe said, “The LORD has sworn: ‘The LORD will have war with Amalek from generation to generation.’ ”

NETfor he said, “For a hand was lifted up to the throne of the Lord – that the Lord will have war with Amalek from generation to generation.”

LSVand says, “Because a hand [is] on the throne of YAH, war [is] to YHWH with Amalek from generation [to] generation.”

FBV“Hold up the victory banner of the Lord!”[fn] Moses declared. “The Lord will go on fighting the Amalekites for all generations!”


17:16 Or “a hand was lifted up towards the Lord's throne.” The Hebrew is unclear.

T4THe/I said, “Hold high Yahweh’s flag! Yahweh will continue to fight against the Amalek people-group forever/in all future generations►!”

LEBAnd he said, “Because a hand was against the throne of Yah,[fn] a war will be for Yahweh with Amalek from generation to generation.”


17:16 Or “indeed a hand on the throne of Yah”; the phrase is unclear

BBEFor he said, The Lord has taken his oath that there will be war with Amalek from generation to generation.

MoffNo Moff EXO book available

JPSAnd he said: 'The hand upon the throne of the LORD: the LORD will have war with Amalek from generation to generation.'

ASVand he said, Jehovah hath sworn: Jehovah will have war with Amalek from generation to generation.

DRABecause the hand of the throne of the Lord, and the war of the Lord shall be against Amalec, from generation to generation.

YLTand saith, 'Because a hand [is] on the throne of Jah, war [is] to Jehovah with Amalek from generation — generation.'

DrbyAnd he said, For the hand is on the throne of Jah; Jehovah will have war with Amalek from generation to generation!

RVand he said, The LORD hath sworn: the LORD will have war with Amalek from generation to generation.

WbstrFor he said, Because the LORD hath sworn that the LORD will have war with Amalek from generation to generation.

KJB-1769For he said, Because the LORD hath sworn that the LORD will have war with Amalek from generation to generation.[fn][fn]
   (For he said, Because the LORD hath/has sworn that the LORD will have war with Amalek from generation to generation. )


17.16 Because…: or, Because the hand of Amalek is against the throne of the LORD, therefore, etc

17.16 the LORD hath…: Heb. the hand upon the throne of the LORD

KJB-1611[fn]For he said, Because the LORD hath sworne that the LORD will haue warre with Amalek from generation to generation.
   (Modernised spelling is same as from KJB-1769 above apart from footnotes)


17:16 Or, because the hand of Amalek is against the throne of the LORD, therfore &c. Hebr. The hand vpon the throne of the LORD.

BshpsFor he said: the hande is on the seate of God, the Lord wil haue warre with Amalec fro generation to generation.
   (For he said: the hand is on the seat of God, the Lord will have war with Amalec from generation to generation.)

GnvaAlso he said, The Lord hath sworne, that he will haue warre with Amalek from generation to generation.
   (Also he said, The Lord hath/has sworne, that he will have war with Amalek from generation to generation. )

Cvdlfor he sayde: The battayll of the LORDE shalbe agaynst Amalek thorow an hande vnder the defence of God from childe to childes childe.
   (for he said: The battle of the LORD shall be against Amalek through an hand under the defence of God from child to child’s child.)

Wycland seide, For the hond of the Lord aloone, and the bateil of God schal be ayens Amalech, fro generacioun in to generacioun.
   (and said, For the hand of the Lord alone, and the bateil of God shall be against Amalech, from generation in to generation.)

LuthDenn er sprach: Es ist ein Malzeichen bei dem Stuhl des HErr’s, daß der HErr streiten wird wider Amalek von Kind zu Kindeskind.
   (Because he spoke: It is a Malzeichen at to_him Stuhl the LORD’s, that the/of_the LORD argue/battle becomes against Amalek from Kind to Kindeskind.)

ClVgQuia manus solii Domini, et bellum Domini erit contra Amalec, a generatione in generationem.
   (Because hands the_throne Master, and bellum Master will_be on_the_contrary Amalec, from generatione in generationem. )


TSNTyndale Study Notes:

17:16 They have raised their fist against the Lord’s throne, so now: The NLT sees the fist raised against the Lord’s throne as Amalek’s aggression against the Lord and his people. The alternate interpretation sees a reference to Moses’ own hands that were lifted to the Lord in prayer (17:15).


UTNuW Translation Notes:

כִּֽי־יָד֙ עַל־כֵּ֣ס יָ֔הּ

that/for/because/then/when hand on/upon/above/on_account_of//he/it_went_in throne Yah

The Hebrew here is very difficult, and there are a variety of opinions regarding the meaning. Questions include: (1) Whose hand is referred to? Amalek’s, Yahweh’s, or Moses’? (2) What is the hand on (or against)? Yahweh’s throne or banner? (3) What is the meaning of the Hebrew preposition meaning on, against, or above? What does that signify? Rebellion, or taking an oath, or holding onto a symbol of power? If there is another translation in your region, it may be best to simply follow the interpretation it gives. Alternate translation: “Because a hand was on the throne of Yah” or “Because a hand was on the banner of Yah”

מִלְחָמָ֥ה לַ⁠יהוָ֖ה בַּֽ⁠עֲמָלֵ֑ק

war to/for=YHWH in/on/at/with,Amalek

This phrase has no verbs in Hebrew. You may need to translate the noun war as a verb. Alternate translation: “Yahweh will make war with Amalek” or “Yahweh will war against Amalek”


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The Route of the Exodus

Exodus 13-19; Numbers 33

Like several other events recorded in Scripture, the Bible’s account of the Israelites’ journey from Egypt to Mount Sinai includes an abundance of geographical references, yet it remains one of the most hotly debated topics among scholars, and numerous theories have been offered. The vast majority of geographical references provided in the story are disputed, including the place where the Israelites crossed the Red Sea, the location of Mount Sinai (see Proposed Locations for Mount Sinai map), and the various stops along the Israelites’ journey. A few locations have been established with some degree of scholarly consensus, but even these are not without opposing viewpoints. Amidst this incredible diversity of opinion, however, a single verse provides one of the most helpful clues for weighing the merits of one viewpoint over another: “By the way of Mount Seir it takes eleven days to reach Kadesh-barnea from Horeb” (Deuteronomy 1:2). For those who assume the Bible’s account to be trustworthy, this verse appears to require the following for any theory to be considered viable: 1) Kadesh-barnea and Mount Sinai must have been located at a distance from each other that could reasonably have been expected to take eleven days for an entire nation of people with small children, flocks, equipment, and perhaps even elderly members to travel on foot; and 2) the pace established by this distance over eleven days should most likely be considered the typical pace for the Israelites as they traveled from place to place along the other parts of the journey. This two-pronged test clearly strains many of the theories put forth to this point, especially when one factors in the time references given for the start of the journey (Exodus 12:6; Numbers 33:3), the middle of the journey (Exodus 16:1; Numbers 33:8), and the end of the journey (Exodus 19:1). In short, the journey from Rameses to the Wilderness of Sin took 31 days, since it included the 15th day of the second month, and the rest of the journey took another 16 days, assuming they arrived at Mount Sinai on the 15th day (not the first day, etc.) of the third month. Along with these criteria, a theory’s overall congruence with other established geographical and archeological data should bolster its credibility over other proposals. Another consideration is the extreme similarity between the events at Rephidim (Exodus 17) and the events at Kadesh-barnea (Numbers 20:1-13; 27:12-14; Deuteronomy 32:51; Ezekiel 47:19; 48:28), raising the question of whether Rephidim (meaning “resting places”) is in fact Kadesh-barnea. With these things in mind, the map below proposes a route for the exodus that meets virtually all of these criteria. A careful analysis and explanation of all the elements of the map is far beyond the scope of this article, but a few key points should be noted. The term Red Sea, in addition to referring to what we now regard it, must have also applied to the interconnected lakes and marshlands that lay along what is now the Suez Canal. Also, the portion of the journey that passed through the wilderness for three days without water (Exodus 15:22; Numbers 33:8) may have been comprised of a partial first day, a full second day, and a partial third day, much like Jesus’ time in the tomb is reckoned as three days in Matthew 12:40. Most notably, Mount Sinai is placed on this map at Gebel Khashm et-Tarif, which is appropriately located near, but not in, Midian (Exodus 3:1; 18:5; Numbers 10:29-30). It is also located 89 miles from Kadesh-barnea (assuming Kadesh is at Tall al-Quderat), which establishes a reasonable pace of 7.6 miles (12.2 km) per day to travel between them in 11 days. This lines up well with several known sources of water along that route (e.g., `Ain Qedeis [Hazar-addar?], Tamilat Suwelima [Hor-haggiggad?], and the spring at Kuntillet al-Girafi [unknown ancient identification]). This general pace then synchronizes very well with the timetable and distances required by this map for the other parts of the journey. The distance from Rameses to the Wilderness of Sin (where it is located here) could be completed in under 26 days, leaving an acceptable buffer of about 5 days for the parting of the Red Sea and perhaps a slower pace through the Wilderness of Shur/Etham. The entire journey took about 60 days, and the journey from the Wilderness of Sin to Mount Sinai took about 29 days. This leaves an acceptable buffer of time to complete the rest of the journey (about 16 days of travel) with a very adequate two weeks of extra time for Jethro to visit Moses and the Israelites to do battle with the Amalekites (Exodus 17-18). It should be noted that this timetable generally assumes (but does not necessarily require) that travel continued on sabbath days, but Scripture does not make clear whether travel was prohibited as work prior to the giving of the law at Mount Sinai.

BI Exo 17:16 ©