YHN 6:62 Parallel Verse View

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Text critical issues=small word differences Clarity of original=clear Importance to us=normal Speaker(s)=Yeshua (All still tentative.)

Key: khaki:verbs, orange:accusative/object, pink:genitive/possessor.
Note: Automatic aligning of the OET-RV to the LV is done by some temporary software, hence the RV alignments are incomplete (and may occasionally be wrong).

GHT So, if-supposing you-may-be-observing the son of {the man} ascending which-where the more-before he-has-been-being[?]

ULT Then if you would see the Son of Man going up to where he was before…?

UST If this teaching has offended you, then would you also be offended if you saw me, the Son of Man, ascending to heaven where I was formerly?

BSB Then what [ will happen ] if you see the Son of Man ascend to where He was before?

MSB Then what [ will happen ] if you see the Son of Man ascend to where He was before?

BLB Then what if you should see the Son of Man ascending to where He was before?

AICNT [Therefore][fn] If you see the Son of Man ascending to where he was before?

6:62, Therefore: Absent from ℵ(01).

OEB ‘Is this a hindrance to you? What, then, if you should see the Son of Man ascending where he was before?

LSB What then if you see the Son of Man ascending to where He was before?

WEBBE & WMBB Then what if you would see the Son of Man ascending to where he was before?

NET Then what if you see the Son of Man ascending where he was before?

LSV If then you may behold the Son of Man going up where He was before?

FBV Then what if you were to see the Son ascend to where he was before?

TCNT Then what if you see the Son of Man ascending to where he was before?

T4T ◄Perhaps you will believe my message if you see me, the one who came from heaven, ascending there to where I was before!/(What will you think if you see me, the one who came from heaven, ascending there to where I was before)?► [RHQ]

LEB Then what if you see the Son of Man ascending where he was before?

BBE What then will you say if you see the Son of man going up to where he was before?

Moff Then what if you were to see the Son of man ascending to where he formerly existed?

Wymth "Does this seem incredible to you? What then if you were to see the Son of Man ascending again where He was before?

ASV What then if ye should behold the Son of man ascending where he was before?

DRA (JHN 6:63) If then you shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?

YLT if then ye may behold the Son of Man going up where he was before?

Drby If then ye see the Son of man ascending up where he was before?

RV What then if ye should behold the Son of man ascending where he was before?
(What then if ye/you_all should behold the Son of man ascending where he was before?)

SLT If then ye see the Son of man going up where he was before.

Wbstr What if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?

KJB-1769 What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?
( What and if ye/you_all shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?)

KJB-1611 What and if yee shall see the sonne of man ascend vp where hee was before?
(Modernised spelling is same as from KJB-1769 above, apart from capitalisation)

Bshps What and yf ye shall see the sonne of man ascende vp thyther where he was before?
(What and if ye/you_all shall see the son of man ascend up thither/there where he was before?)

Gnva What then if yee should see that Sonne of man ascend vp where he was before?
(What then if ye/you_all should see that Son of man ascend up where he was before?)

Cvdl What and yf ye shal se the sonne of man ascende vp thither, where he was afore?
(What and if ye/you_all shall see the son of man ascend up thither/there, where he was afore?)

TNT What and yf ye shall se the sonne of man ascede vp where he was before?
(Modernised spelling is same as from KJB-1769 above, apart from marking of added words (and possibly capitalisation and punctuation))

Wycl (JHN 6:63) Therfor if ye seen mannus sone stiynge, where he was bifor?
(Therefore if ye/you_all seen man’s son ascending, where he was before?)

Luth Wie, wenn ihr denn sehen werdet des Menschen Sohn auffahren dahin; da er zuvor war?
(How, if/when you(pl)/their/her because/than see become the people son drive/ascend gone; there he before war?)

ClVg (JHN 6:63) si ergo videritis Filium hominis ascendentem ubi erat prius?[fn]
(when/but_if therefore you(pl)_see Son of_man ascending where was first/before?)

6.63 Si ergo, etc. Suspenditur oratio, Quasi dicat: Tunc intelligetis quod non eodem modo quo putatis erogo corpus, et quod hæc gratia morsibus non consumitur, sed spirituali gratia me illis dando, ipsos in corpus meum converto; hinc plane solvit quod ipsos moverat; putabant enim quod corpus distribueret, ille dicit in cœlum se ascensurum utique integrum. Quid ergo tenendum sit, aperte subdit:

6.63 When/But_if therefore, etc. Is_hung_up speech, As_if let_him_say: Then you_will_understand that not/no the_same just/only where you_think I_pay_out body, and that these_things grace bites not/no is_consumed, but spiritual grace me to_them giving, themselves in/into/on body mine I_convert; from_here plane pays that themselves had_moved; they_thought because that body would_distribute, he/that_one he_says in/into/on sky himself about_to_go_up certainly whole. What therefore to_be_held be, openly I_submit:

UGNT ἐὰν οὖν θεωρῆτε τὸν Υἱὸν τοῦ Ἀνθρώπου, ἀναβαίνοντα ὅπου ἦν τὸ πρότερον?
(ean oun theōraʸte ton Huion tou Anthrōpou, anabainonta hopou aʸn to proteron?)

SBL-GNT ἐὰν οὖν θεωρῆτε τὸν υἱὸν τοῦ ἀνθρώπου ἀναβαίνοντα ὅπου ἦν τὸ πρότερον;
(ean oun theōraʸte ton huion tou anthrōpou anabainonta hopou aʸn to proteron;)

RP-GNT Ἐὰν οὖν θεωρῆτε τὸν υἱὸν τοῦ ἀνθρώπου ἀναβαίνοντα ὅπου ἦν τὸ πρότερον;
(Ean oun theōraʸte ton huion tou anthrōpou anabainonta hopou aʸn to proteron;)

TC-GNT ἐὰν οὖν θεωρῆτε τὸν υἱὸν τοῦ ἀνθρώπου ἀναβαίνοντα ὅπου ἦν τὸ πρότερον;
(ean oun theōraʸte ton huion tou anthrōpou anabainonta hopou aʸn to proteron;)

Key for above GNTs: yellow:punctuation differs (from our SR-GNT base).

SOTN SIL Open Translator’s Notes:

Section 6:60–71: Jesus had the words of eternal life

This section describes Jesus’ followers dividing into groups. Many of them rejected Jesus’ teaching that he was the bread of life, and they stopped following him. But the twelve (12) apostles, with Simon Peter speaking for them, understood that Jesus brought them true words from God that give life.

Here are other possible titles for this section:

Simon Peter recognized that Jesus had the words of eternal life

Many of Jesus’ followers stopped following him

Paragraph 6:60–65

Jesus’ teaching made many of his followers unhappy. They did not understand how he could be the living bread, or how they could eat him. In this paragraph Jesus responded to their complaints. He insisted that he came from God and that his words brought life from God.

6:62

Then what will happen if you see the Son of Man ascend to where He was before?

What will you^(plur) think if you see the Son of Man go up/back to where he came from?
Suppose you^(plur) see me, the Son of Man, return to heaven?

Then what will happen if you see the Son of Man ascend to where He was before?: Like 6:61b, this is a rhetorical question. Jesus was asking his followers to consider what they would think if they saw him go back to heaven.

Here are other ways to translate this rhetorical question:

Suppose, then, that you should see the Son of Man go back up to the place where he was before? (GNT)

Then what will you think if you see the Son of Man ascend to heaven again? (NLT)

If you saw the Son of Man ascend to heaven again, what would you say about that?

the Son of Man: The Greek phrase that the BSB translates as the Son of Man is more literally “the Son of the human/person.” Jesus was referring to himself. He used this title to imply two things:

He was a true human being, and he represented all people.
He came from God and had authority from God.

Try to use an expression that implies both meanings. Here are some possible translations:

the Human-born

the True Man from God/Heaven

the Representative of Humanity/Humans

Translate this title as you did in other verses, for example, 1:51; 3:13, 14. See also KBT, Son of Man.

Jesus was referring to himself. If a literal translation would mean that he was referring to someone else, it may be necessary to say:

me, the Son of Man

ascend: This word refers to when Jesus would ascend (go up) to heaven after he was resurrected.

where He was before: This clause refers to heaven. Jesus lived in heaven before he came to earth. Here he referred to returning to heaven after his resurrection. In some languages it may be necessary to make this explicit. For example:

heaven where he came from (CEV)

UTN uW Translation Notes:

Note 1 topic: figures-of-speech / ellipsis

ἐὰν & θεωρῆτε τὸν Υἱὸν τοῦ Ἀνθρώπου, ἀναβαίνοντα ὅπου ἦν τὸ πρότερον

(Some words not found in SR-GNT: ἐάν Οὖν θεωρῆτε τόν Υἱόν τοῦ Ἀνθρώπου ἀναβαίνοντα ὅπου ἦν τό πρότερον)

John records Jesus using only one part of a conditional sentence. He leaves out the second part of the conditional sentence for emphasis. Many languages need to have both parts of a conditional sentence in order to make the sentence complete. If this is true for your language, you could supply the second clause from the previous verse. Alternate translation: [if you would see the Son of Man going up to where he was before, would it offend you?]

Note 2 topic: figures-of-speech / 123person

τὸν Υἱὸν τοῦ Ἀνθρώπου, ἀναβαίνοντα ὅπου ἦν τὸ πρότερον

(Some words not found in SR-GNT: ἐάν Οὖν θεωρῆτε τόν Υἱόν τοῦ Ἀνθρώπου ἀναβαίνοντα ὅπου ἦν τό πρότερον)

Jesus is speaking of himself in the third person. If it would be helpful in your language, you could translate this in the first person, as in the UST.

Note 3 topic: figures-of-speech / explicit

τὸν Υἱὸν τοῦ Ἀνθρώπου

(Some words not found in SR-GNT: ἐάν Οὖν θεωρῆτε τόν Υἱόν τοῦ Ἀνθρώπου ἀναβαίνοντα ὅπου ἦν τό πρότερον)

See how you translated this phrase in [1:51](../01/51.md).

Note 4 topic: figures-of-speech / explicit

ὅπου ἦν τὸ πρότερον

where ˱he˲_was (Some words not found in SR-GNT: ἐάν Οὖν θεωρῆτε τόν Υἱόν τοῦ Ἀνθρώπου ἀναβαίνοντα ὅπου ἦν τό πρότερον)

This phrase refers to heaven, where Jesus was before he came down to earth. If it would be helpful to your readers, you could state this explicitly. Alternate translation: [to heaven, where I used to be]

Parallel YHN 6:62

Section 6:60–71: Jesus had the words of eternal life

Paragraph 6:60–65

6:62