2 SAM 16:20 Parallel Verse View

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Text critical issues=none Clarity of original=clear Importance to us=normal Speaker(s)=Narrator (All still tentative.)

Key: khaki:verbs.
Note: Automatic aligning of the OET-RV to the LV is done by some temporary software, hence the OET-RV alignments are incomplete (and may occasionally be wrong).

BrLXX Καὶ εἶπεν Ἀβεσσαλὼμ πρὸς Ἀχιτόφελ, φέρετε ἑαυτοῖς βουλὴν τί ποιήσωμεν.
(Kai eipen Abessalōm pros Aⱪitofel, ferete heautois boulaʸn ti poiaʸsōmen.)

BrTr And Abessalom said to Achitophel, Deliberate among yourselves concerning what we should do.

ULT And Absalom said to Ahithophel, “Give counsel for yourselves. What shall we do?”

UST Then Absalom said to Ahithophel, “What would you advise that we should do?”

BSB & MSB Then Absalom said to Ahithophel, “Give me counsel. What should we do?”

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WEBBE & WMBB Then Absalom said to Ahithophel, “Give your counsel what we shall do.”

NET Then Absalom said to Ahithophel, “Give us your advice. What should we do?”

LSV And Absalom says to Ahithophel, “Give counsel for yourself [for] what we do.”

FBV Then Absalom asked Ahithophel, “Give me your advice. What shall we do?”

T4T Then Absalom said to Ahithophel, “What do you advise that we should do?”

LEB Then Absalom said to Ahithophel, “Give your advice. What shall we do?”

BBE Then Absalom said to Ahithophel, Give your opinion now, what are we to do?

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JPS Then said Absalom to Ahithophel: 'Give your counsel what we shall do.'

ASV Then said Absalom to Ahithophel, Give your counsel what we shall do.

DRA And Absalom said to Achitophel: Consult what we are to do.

YLT And Absalom saith unto Ahithophel, 'Give for you counsel what we do.'

Drby And Absalom said to Ahithophel, Give counsel among you what we shall do.

RV Then said Absalom to Ahithophel, Give your counsel what we shall do.
(Then said Absalom to Ahithophel, Give your council/counsel what we shall do.)

SLT And Absalom will say to Ahithophel, Bring counsel to yourselves what we shall do.

Wbstr Then said Absalom to Ahithophel, Give counsel among you what we shall do.

KJB-1769 ¶ Then said Absalom to Ahithophel, Give counsel among you what we shall do.
(¶ Then said Absalom to Ahithophel, Give council/counsel among you what we shall do.)

KJB-1611 ¶ Then said Absalom to Ahithophel, Giue counsell among you what we shall doe.
(Modernised spelling is same as from KJB-1769 above)

Bshps Then spake Absalom to Ahithophel: Geue counsel what we shall do.
(Then spake Absalom to Ahithophel: Give council/counsel what we shall do.)

Gnva Then spake Absalom to Ahithophel, Giue counsell what we shall doe.
(Then spake Absalom to Ahithophel, Give council/counsel what we shall do.)

Cvdl And Absalom sayde vnto Achitophel: Geue vs youre councell what we shal do?
(And Absalom said unto Achitophel: Give us your(pl) council/counsel what we shall do?)

Wycl Forsothe Absolon seide to Achitofel, Take ye counsel, what we owen to do.
(For_certain/Truly Absalom said to Ahithophel, Take ye/you_all council/counsel, what we own to do.)

Luth Und Absalom sprach zu Ahitophel: Ratet zu, was sollen wir tun?
(And Absalom spoke to/for Ahitophel: Advise to/for, what/which should we/us do/put?)

ClVg Dixit autem Absalom ad Achitophel: Inite consilium quid agere debeamus.
(He/She_said however Absalom to Achitophel: Enter advice what to_act we_should.)

UTN uW Translation Notes:

Note 1 topic: figures-of-speech / yousingular

וַ⁠יֹּ֥אמֶר אַבְשָׁל֖וֹם אֶל־אֲחִיתֹ֑פֶל הָב֥וּ לָ⁠כֶ֛ם עֵצָ֖ה

(Some words not found in UHB: and=he/it_said ʼAⱱīshālōm to/towards ʼAḩītofel give to/for=you(pl) advice what do )

The implied “you” in the imperative Give is plural, as the plural pronoun yourselves indicates. While the author says that Absalom spoke these words to Ahithophel, Absalom was evidently addressing him as chief among a group of advisors. So use a plural form of the imperative in your translation if your language marks that distinction. You may also wish to indicate more fully whom Absalom was addressing. Alternate translation: [And Absalom said to Ahithophel and his other advisors, “Give counsel for yourselves]

Note 2 topic: figures-of-speech / rpronouns

הָב֥וּ לָ⁠כֶ֛ם עֵצָ֖ה

give to/for=you(pl) advice

Absalom is using the pronoun yourselves because his advisors are part of the group for whose benefit this counsel will be given. Since the speaker, Absalom, is also part of this group, it may be natural in your language to use a first-person plural pronoun. Alternate translation: [Give counsel for us]

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David Flees as Absalom Approaches Jerusalem

2 Samuel 15-16

Several years after killing his half brother Amnon and his brothers, Absalom was reconciled to his father David (2 Samuel 13-14). Then Absalom spent the next four years grooming the people of Israel to favor him over his father, all in preparation to eventually rebel against his father’s rule. When it appeared to Absalom that the time had finally come to act on his plan, he staged a coup in the town of Hebron about 19 miles (30 km) south of Jerusalem. A messenger came to David and told him that the people of Israel had declared Absalom king, and David chose to flee Jerusalem with his household and many of his officials. They left the city and crossed the Kidron Valley to take the road that went up the Mount of Olives before heading toward Jericho and the Jordan Valley much further east. When he reached the summit of the Mount of Olives, he sent his counselor Hushai back to Jerusalem to act as a false counselor to Absalom and to keep David informed of his plans. Interestingly, 2 Samuel 15:32 notes that the summit of the Mount of Olives was “where God was worshiped.” Sometime during the ministry of Samuel, the Philistines defeated the Israelites in battle at Ebenezer near Aphek and captured the Ark of the Covenant. They took it to Ashdod, Gath, and Ekron but eventually returned it to Israel, where the Ark was then taken to Kiriath-jearim (1 Samuel 4-5; also see “The Ark of the Covenant Is Captured and Returned” map). After the battle, the worship center of Shiloh appears to have been overrun as well (Psalm 78:60; Jeremiah 7:12-14; 26:6). Many of the priests apparently relocated to the town of Nob near Jerusalem, perhaps on the summit of the Mount of Olives (1 Samuel 22:11; Isaiah 10:32; see “The Ark of the Covenant in the Promised Land” map), while the Tabernacle and altar were relocated to the High Place at Gibeon/Gibeah (1 Chronicles 16:39-40; 21:29; see “David Transports the Ark of the Covenant to Jerusalem” map). A little beyond the summit of the Mount of Olives, Ziba, the servant of Saul’s grandson Mephibosheth, met David with donkeys and food for his journey. When David learned that Mephibosheth was making plans to regain the kingdom of his grandfather, David rewarded Ziba’s loyalty by granting him all of Mephibosheth’s inheritance. As David and his officials passed by Bahurim, one of Saul’s relatives came out and cursed David and threw stones at him and those with him. David chose not to stop him and continued on to the Jordan River (see also “Absalom Rebels against David” map).

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David Flees as Absalom Approaches Jerusalem

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