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Parallel JDG 8:2

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BI Jdg 8:2 ©

Text critical issues=none Clarity of original=clearImportance=normal(All still tentative.)

OET (OET-RV)“What have I achieved compared to you guys?” answered Gideon. “Aren’t the seconds of Efraim’s grapes better than the whole grape harvest of Abiezer?

OET-LVAnd_he/it_said to_them what have_I_done now in_comparison_with_you_all am_not good [are]_the_gleanings of_ʼEfrayim than_grape_harvest of_ʼAⱱīˊezr.

UHBוַ⁠יֹּ֣אמֶר אֲלֵי⁠הֶ֔ם מֶה־עָשִׂ֥יתִי עַתָּ֖ה כָּ⁠כֶ֑ם הֲ⁠ל֗וֹא ט֛וֹב עֹלְל֥וֹת אֶפְרַ֖יִם מִ⁠בְצִ֥יר אֲבִיעֶֽזֶר׃
   (va⁠yyoʼmer ʼₐlēy⁠hem meh-ˊāsitī ˊattāh kā⁠kem hₐ⁠lōʼ ţōⱱ ˊollōt ʼefrayim mi⁠ⱱəʦir ʼₐⱱīˊezer.)

Key: khaki:verbs, red:negative.
Note: Automatic aligning of the OET-RV to the LV is done by some temporary software, hence the OET-RV alignments are incomplete (and may occasionally be wrong).

BrLXXΚαὶ εἶπε πρὸς αὐτοὺς, τί ἐποίησα νῦν καθὼς ὑμεῖς; ἢ οὐχὶ κρείττῶν ἐπιφυλλὶς Ἐφραὶμ ἢ τρυγητὸς Ἀβιέζερ;
   (Kai eipe pros autous, ti epoiaʸsa nun kathōs humeis; aʸ ouⱪi kreittōn epifullis Efraim aʸ trugaʸtos Abiezer; )

BrTrAnd he said to them, What have I now done in comparison of you? is not the gleaning of Ephraim better than the vintage of Abiezer?

ULTHe said to them, “What have I done now according to you? Are not the grape gleanings from Ephraim better than the grape harvest of Abiezer?

USTBut Gideon replied, “I have done very little compared with what you have done! The grapes you do not bother to pick in the land of Ephraim are much better than the whole harvest among the descendants of Abiezer!

BSB  § But Gideon answered them, “Now what have I accomplished compared to you? Are not the gleanings of Ephraim better than the grape harvest of Abiezer?


OEBNo OEB JDG book available

WEBBEHe said to them, “What have I now done in comparison with you? Isn’t the gleaning of the grapes of Ephraim better than the vintage of Abiezer?

WMBB (Same as above)

NETHe said to them, “Now what have I accomplished compared to you? Even Ephraim’s leftover grapes are better quality than Abiezer’s harvest!

LSVand he says to them, “What have I now done like you? Are the gleanings of Ephraim not better than the harvest of Abi-Ezer?

FBV“Now what have I achieved in comparison to you?” Gideon replied. “Even Ephraim's left-over grapes are better than Abiezer's whole grape harvest!

T4TBut Gideon replied, “I have done [RHQ] very little compared with what you have done! My small clan of descendants of Abiezer only started the battle, but your very large group of descendants of Ephraim helped me to finish the task very well. It is like the final grapes of the harvest being much better than the first grapes that are picked.

LEBAnd he said to them, “What I have done now in comparison with you? Are not the gleanings of Ephraim better than the grape harvest of Abiezer?

BBEAnd he said to them, What have I done in comparison with you? Is not that which Ephraim took up after the grape-cutting better than all the grapes which Abiezer got in from the grape-cutting?

MoffNo Moff JDG book available

JPSAnd he said unto them: 'What have I now done in comparison with you? Is not the gleaning of Ephraim better than the vintage of Abiezer?

ASVAnd he said unto them, What have I now done in comparison with you? Is not the gleaning of the grapes of Ephraim better than the vintage of Abiezer?

DRAAnd he answered them: What could I have done like to that which you have done? Is not one bunch of grapes of Ephraim better than the vintages of Abiezer?

YLTand he saith unto them, 'What have I done now like you? are not the gleanings of Ephraim better than the harvest of Abi-Ezer?

DrbyAnd he said to them, What have I done now in comparison with you? Are not the gleanings of Ephraim better than the vintage of Abi-ezer?

RVAnd he said unto them, What have I now done in comparison of you? Is not the gleaning of the grapes of Ephraim better than the vintage of Abiezer?

WbstrAnd he said to them, What have I done now in comparison of you? Is not the gleaning of the grapes of Ephraim better than the vintage of Abiezer?

KJB-1769And he said unto them, What have I done now in comparison of you? Is not the gleaning of the grapes of Ephraim better than the vintage of Abi-ezer?

KJB-1611And he said vnto them, What haue I done now in comparison of you? Is not the gleaning of the grapes of Ephraim better then the vintage of Abiezer?
   (And he said unto them, What have I done now in comparison of you? Is not the gleaning of the grapes of Ephraim better then the vintage of Abiezer?)

BshpsAnd he sayde vnto them: What deede haue I done lyke vnto yours? Is not the gleaning of grapes of Ephraim, better then the vinetage of Abiezer?
   (And he said unto them: What deade have I done like unto yours? Is not the gleaning of grapes of Ephraim, better then the vinetage of Abiezer?)

GnvaTo whom he said, What haue I now done in comparison of you? is not the gleaning of grapes of Ephraim better, then the vintage of Abiezer?
   (To whom he said, What have I now done in comparison of you? is not the gleaning of grapes of Ephraim better, then the vintage of Abiezer? )

CvdlBut he sayde vnto them: What haue I done now that is like youre acte? Is not the aftergadderynge of Ephraim better then the whole haruest of Abieser?
   (But he said unto them: What have I done now that is like your(pl) acte? Is not the aftergadderynge of Ephraim better then the whole harvest of Abieser?)

WyclTo whiche he answeride, `What sotheli siche thing myyte Y do, what maner thing ye diden? Whethir a reisyn of Effraym is not betere than the vindagis of Abiezer?
   (To which he answered, `What truly such thing might I do, what manner thing ye/you_all diden? Whethir a reisyn of Ephraim is not better than the vindagis of Abiezer?)

LuthEr aber sprach zu ihnen: Was habe ich jetzt getan, das eurer Tat gleich sei? Ist nicht eine Rebe Ephraims besser denn die ganze Weinernte Abiesers?
   (He but spoke to to_them: What have I jetzt did, the yours Tat gleich sei? Is not one Rebe Ephraims better because the ganze Weinernte Abiesers?)

ClVgQuibus ille respondit: Quod enim tale facere potui, quale vos fecistis? nonne melior est racemus Ephraim, vindemiis Abiezer?
   (To_whom ille answered: That because tale facere potui, quale you fecistis? isn't_it melior it_is racemus Ephraim, vindemiis Abiezer? )


TSNTyndale Study Notes:

8:1-3 Ephraim, the dominant tribe of the north-central hill country, produced only a minor judge, Tola (10:1). The Ephraimites resented their omission from the battle, if only because they hoped for a share of the spoils. When summoned, they did the job at hand. Gideon gave a gracious and humble answer, which turned away Ephraim’s anger (see Prov 15:1; contrast Jephthah, Judg 12:1-4). Gideon’s and Ephraim’s victories over Oreb and Zeeb and their armies became the stuff of legend (cp. Ps 83:11-12; Isa 10:26).


UTNuW Translation Notes:

Note 1 topic: figures-of-speech / rquestion

מֶה־עָשִׂ֥יתִי עַתָּ֖ה כָּ⁠כֶ֑ם הֲ⁠ל֗וֹא ט֛וֹב עֹלְל֥וֹת אֶפְרַ֖יִם מִ⁠בְצִ֥יר אֲבִיעֶֽזֶר

what? done now in_comparison_with,you_all am=not good gleaning_of_the_grapes ʼEfrayim than,grape_harvest ʼAⱱīˊezr

Gideon is using the question form in order to make a point without being confrontational. If a speaker of your language would not use the question form for that purpose, you could translate these questions as statements or as exclamations, particularly if they would not be regarded as confrontational in your culture. Alternate translation: “What I have done is not like what you have done! The gleanings of Ephraim are better than the vintage of Abiezer!”

Note 2 topic: figures-of-speech / metaphor

הֲ⁠ל֗וֹא ט֛וֹב עֹלְל֥וֹת אֶפְרַ֖יִם מִ⁠בְצִ֥יר אֲבִיעֶֽזֶר

am=not good gleaning_of_the_grapes ʼEfrayim than,grape_harvest ʼAⱱīˊezr

Gideon is speaking as if he had literally harvested a crop of grapes and the soldiers from Ephraim had come along after him and collected the few grapes that he had left on the vines. If it would be clearer in your language, you could state the meaning plainly. (You could also express this as a comparison, as the UST does.) Alternate translation: “The specific thing that you did at the end of the battle was more important than what I and my soldiers did during the battle!”

Note 3 topic: figures-of-speech / metonymy

מִ⁠בְצִ֥יר אֲבִיעֶֽזֶר

than,grape_harvest ʼAⱱīˊezr

Gideon is using the name of his clan, Abiezer by association to mean himself. Alternate translation: “than the grapes I have harvested”

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