YHN 12:16 Parallel Verse View

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OET (OET-RV) (Yeshua’s apprentices didn’t realise all these things at the time, but it was later after Yeshua was lifted up to heaven that they were reminded that these things had been written about him, and that they had indeed happened to him.)

Key: khaki:verbs, light-green:nominative/subject, orange:accusative/object, pink:genitive/possessor, cyan:dative/indirect object, red:negative.
Note: Automatic aligning of the OET-RV to the LV is done by some temporary software, hence the RV alignments are incomplete (and may occasionally be wrong).

ULT His disciples did not understand these things at first; but when Jesus was glorified, then they remembered that these things had been written about him and that they had done these things to him.

UST When these events happened, his disciples did not understand that they were a fulfillment of what those prophets had written. However, after God glorified Jesus by bringing him back to life, they remembered what the prophets had written about him and that people had done those things to him.

BSB At first His disciples {did} not understand these things, but after Jesus was glorified they remembered what had been done to Him, [ and they realized] that these very things had also {been} written about Him.

MSB At first His disciples {did} not understand these things, but after Jesus was glorified they remembered what had been done to Him, [ and they realized] that these very things had also {been} written about Him.

BLB His disciples did not know these things from the first, but when Jesus was glorified, then they remembered that these things were written of Him, and these things they had done to Him.

AICNT His disciples did not understand these things at first, but when Jesus was glorified, then they remembered that these things were written about him and that they had done these things to him.

OEB His disciples did not understand all this at first; but, when Jesus had been exalted, then they remembered that these things had been said of him in scripture, and that they had done these things for him.

WEBBE His disciples didn’t understand these things at first, but when Jesus was glorified, then they remembered that these things were written about him, and that they had done these things to him.

WMBB His disciples didn’t understand these things at first, but when Yeshua was glorified, then they remembered that these things were written about him, and that they had done these things to him.

NET (His disciples did not understand these things when they first happened, but when Jesus was glorified, then they remembered that these things were written about him and that these things had happened to him.)

LSV And His disciples did not know these things at first, but when Jesus was glorified, then they remembered that these things were having been written about Him, and these things they did to Him.

FBV At the time, Jesus' disciples did not understand what these things meant. It was only later when he was glorified[fn] that they realized what had happened had been prophesied and applied to him.

12:16 Glorified: in his resurrection and ascension.

TCNT § (His disciples did not understand these things at first, but when Jesus was glorified, they remembered that these things were written about him, and that these things had been done to him.)

T4T At first we disciples did not understand those things. But after Jesus had returned to heaven, we realized that those things had been written {that a prophet had written those things} about him, and that by doing those things for him the people had fulfilled what the prophet prophesied.

LEB (His disciples did not understand these things at first, but when Jesus was glorified, then they remembered that these things had been written about him and they did these things to him.)

BBE (These things were not clear to his disciples at first: but when Jesus had been lifted up into his glory, then it came to their minds that these things in the Writings were about him and that they had been done to him.)

Moff (His disciples did not understand this at first; but when Jesus was glorified, then they remembered this had been written of him and had happened to him.)

Wymth The meaning of this His disciples did not understand at the time; but after Jesus was glorified they recollected that this was written about Him, and that they had done this to Him.

ASV These things understood not his disciples at the first: but when Jesus was glorified, then remembered they that these things were written of him, and that they had done these things unto him.

DRA These things his disciples did not know at the first; but when Jesus was glorified, then they remembered that these things were written of him, and that they had done these things to him.

YLT And these things his disciples did not know at the first, but when Jesus was glorified, then they remembered that these things were having been written about him, and these things they did to him.

Drby [Now] his disciples knew not these things at the first; but when Jesus was glorified, then they remembered that these things were written of him, and that they had done these things to him.

RV These things understood not his disciples at the first: but when Jesus was glorified, then remembered they that these things were written of him, and that they had done these things unto him.

SLT And these the disciples knew not at first: but when Jesus was honoured, then remembered they that these were written of him, and they did these things to him.

Wbstr These things his disciples understood not at the first: but when Jesus was glorified, then they remembered that these things were written concerning him, and that they had done these things to him.

KJB-1769 These things understood not his disciples at the first: but when Jesus was glorified, then remembered they that these things were written of him, and that they had done these things unto him.

KJB-1611 These things vnderstood not his disciples at the first: but when Iesus was glorified, then remēbred they that these things were written of him, and that they had done these things vnto him.
(These things understood not his disciples at the first: but when Yesus/Yeshua was glorified, then remēbred they that these things were written of him, and that they had done these things unto him.)

Bshps These thynges vnderstoode not his disciples at the first: but when Iesus was glorified, the remembred they that such thinges were written of him, & that such thynges they had done vnto hym.
(These things understood not his disciples at the first: but when Yesus/Yeshua was glorified, the remembered they that such things were written of him, and that such things they had done unto him.)

Gnva But his disciples vnderstoode not these thinges at the first: but when Iesus was glorified, then remembred they, that these thinges were written of him, and that they had done these things vnto him.
(But his disciples understood not these things at the first: but when Yesus/Yeshua was glorified, then remembered they, that these things were written of him, and that they had done these things unto him. )

Cvdl Neuertheles his disciples vnderstode not these thinges at the first, but whan Iesus was glorified, then remebred they that soch thinges were wrytte of him, and that they had done soch thinges vnto him.
(Nevertheless his disciples understood not these things at the first, but when Yesus/Yeshua was glorified, then remembered they that such things were written of him, and that they had done such things unto him.)

TNT These thinges vnderstode not his disciples at the fyrst: but when Iesus was gloryfied then remembryd they that soche thinges were written of him and that soche thinges they had done vnto him.
(These things understood not his disciples at the first: but when Yesus/Yeshua was gloryfied then remembryd they that such things were written of him and that such things they had done unto him. )

Wycl Hise disciplis knewen not first these thingis, but whanne Jhesus was glorified, thanne thei hadden mynde, for these thingis weren writun of hym, and these thingis thei diden to hym.
(His disciples knew not first these things, but when Yhesus was glorified, then they had mind, for these things were written of him, and these things they did to him.)

Luth Solches aber verstunden seine Jünger zuvor nicht, sondern da JEsus verkläret ward, da dachten sie daran, daß solches war von ihm geschrieben, und sie solches ihm getan hatten.
(Such but understooden his disciple before not, rather there Yesus glorified was, there thought they/she/them to_it, that such what/which from him written, and they/she/them such him did had.)

ClVg Hæc non cognoverunt discipuli ejus primum: sed quando glorificatus est Jesus, tunc recordati sunt quia hæc erant scripta de eo, et hæc fecerunt ei.
(This not/no they_knew students his first: but when glorified it_is Yesus, then recordati are because these_things they_were written from/about by_him, and these_things they_did to_him. )

UGNT ταῦτα οὐκ ἔγνωσαν αὐτοῦ οἱ μαθηταὶ τὸ πρῶτον, ἀλλ’ ὅτε ἐδοξάσθη Ἰησοῦς, τότε ἐμνήσθησαν ὅτι ταῦτα ἦν ἐπ’ αὐτῷ γεγραμμένα, καὶ ταῦτα ἐποίησαν αὐτῷ.
(tauta ouk egnōsan autou hoi mathaʸtai to prōton, all’ hote edoxasthaʸ Yaʸsous, tote emnaʸsthaʸsan hoti tauta aʸn ep’ autōi gegrammena, kai tauta epoiaʸsan autōi.)

SBL-GNT ⸀ταῦτα οὐκ ἔγνωσαν ⸂αὐτοῦ οἱ μαθηταὶ⸃ τὸ πρῶτον, ἀλλʼ ὅτε ἐδοξάσθη Ἰησοῦς τότε ἐμνήσθησαν ὅτι ταῦτα ἦν ἐπʼ αὐτῷ γεγραμμένα καὶ ταῦτα ἐποίησαν αὐτῷ.
(⸀tauta ouk egnōsan ⸂autou hoi mathaʸtai⸃ to prōton, allʼ hote edoxasthaʸ Yaʸsous tote emnaʸsthaʸsan hoti tauta aʸn epʼ autōi gegrammena kai tauta epoiaʸsan autōi.)

RP-GNT Ταῦτα δὲ οὐκ ἔγνωσαν οἱ μαθηταὶ αὐτοῦ τὸ πρῶτον· ἀλλ' ὅτε ἐδοξάσθη Ἰησοῦς, τότε ἐμνήσθησαν ὅτι ταῦτα ἦν ἐπ' αὐτῷ γεγραμμένα, καὶ ταῦτα ἐποίησαν αὐτῷ.
(Tauta de ouk egnōsan hoi mathaʸtai autou to prōton; all' hote edoxasthaʸ Yaʸsous, tote emnaʸsthaʸsan hoti tauta aʸn ep' autōi gegrammena, kai tauta epoiaʸsan autōi.)

TC-GNT § Ταῦτα [fn]δὲ οὐκ ἔγνωσαν [fn]οἱ μαθηταὶ αὐτοῦ τὸ πρῶτον· ἀλλ᾽ ὅτε ἐδοξάσθη [fn]Ἰησοῦς, τότε ἐμνήσθησαν ὅτι ταῦτα ἦν ἐπ᾽ αὐτῷ γεγραμμένα, καὶ ταῦτα ἐποίησαν αὐτῷ.
( § Tauta de ouk egnōsan hoi mathaʸtai autou to prōton; all hote edoxasthaʸ Yaʸsous, tote emnaʸsthaʸsan hoti tauta aʸn ep autōi gegrammena, kai tauta epoiaʸsan autōi. )

12:16 δε ¦ — CT

12:16 οι μαθηται αυτου ¦ αυτου οι μαθηται CT

12:16 ιησους ¦ ο ιησους 𝔐^pt ANT HF PCK TR

Key for above GNTs: yellow:punctuation differs, red:words differ (from our SR-GNT base).

SOTN SIL Open Translation Notes:

Section 12:12–19: Jesus entered Jerusalem as a king

This section tells about Jesus entering Jerusalem while riding a donkey. The people honored him by shouting praises and waving palm branches. This fulfilled the prophecy about the Messiah in Zechariah 9:9 and showed that he came as a peaceful king. Jesus’ disciples did not understand what was happening at that time. The people went out to welcome him because they heard that he raised Lazarus from the dead.

Here are some other possible titles for this section:

A crowd welcomed Jesus to Jerusalem

Jesus arrived in Jerusalem with honor

Palm Sunday

12:16a

At first His disciples did not understand these things,

When these things happened, Jesus’ disciples did not understand that all these things fulfilled scripture/prophecy.
Jesus’ disciples did not understand about the prophecies at that time.

At first His disciples did not understand these things: The phrase His disciples refers to Jesus’ disciples. They did not realize then that Jesus’ action fulfilled a prophecy in the Scriptures. Here are other ways to translate this phrase:

His disciples did not understand this at the time (GNT)

His disciples did not understand these things when they first happened (NET)

At that time Jesus’ disciples did not realize that what happened fulfilled this prophecy.

At first: The Greek phrase that the BSB translates as At first here means “at that time” or “when they happened.” Here are other ways to translate this phrase:

At the time (REB)

when they first happened (NET)

Jesus’ disciples did not understand yet

His disciples: The Greek word that the BSB translates as disciples means “learners” or “followers.” These learners committed themselves to their teacher in order to learn from him, and they followed his teaching and example. See how you translated this term in 2:15b and 12:4.

these things: This phrase refers to what happened in verses 12–15. Here are other ways to translate this phrase:

this (NCV)

all this (NIV)

what happened

12:16b

but after Jesus was glorified

After Jesus was given glory,
Later when Jesus received/entered his glory,

but: The Greek conjunction that the BSB translates as but here connects a negative statement (12:16a) to a positive statement (12:16b–c). This kind of sentence emphasizes the positive statement. Languages have different ways to indicate this type of emphasis. Here are some ways to show the emphasis:

Use the conjunction but as in the BSB.
At first, Jesus’ disciples did not understand. But after he had been given his glory, they remembered all this. (CEV)
Do not use a conjunction. For example:
At first his disciples did not understand all this. Only after Jesus was glorified did they realize that these things had been written about him and that these things had been done to him. (NIV)

after: This phrase introduces the time when the disciples finally understood.

Jesus was glorified: This clause refers to the time when God glorified Jesus by raising him to life and then taking him up to heaven. Only then would God send the Holy Spirit (see 7:39) and the Holy Spirit help the disciples understand (see 14:26). The verb was glorified is passive. There are at least two ways to translate this verb:

Use a passive verb. For example:
after he had been given his glory (CEV)
Use an active verb. For example:
Jesus had received his glory
God had glorified him/Jesus

12:16c

they remembered what had been done to Him,

they remembered that they had done these things to him,
they realized that, by what they did to him,

they remembered what had been done to Him: The Greek phrase that the BSB translates as had been done to Him is more literally “they did these things to him.” The Greek pronoun they almost certainly refers to the disciples.Most commentaries interpret it as referring to the disciples. One English translation (GW) explicitly mentions the disciples here. All other English translations use “they,” which clearly refers to the disciples. A few commentaries think that it refers to the people, and some think that the pronoun is not clear. The last plural noun is “the disciples,” so if you cannot use a pronoun or a passive here, it is good to refer to the disciples. The disciples remembered what had happened and realized that what they (and others) did for Jesus fulfilled the Scriptures. They welcomed him as their Messiah as he rode into Jerusalem on a donkey as the Scriptures said he would. Here are other ways to translate this phrase:

they had done this for him (GNT)

this was what had happened to him (NJB)

the disciples remembered that they had taken part in fulfilling the prophecies (GW)

12:16d

and they realized that these very things had also been written about Him.

and that the prophets had written these things about him.
the prophecies had been fulfilled.

and: The word and connects all that what was done to him with the things written down about him.

they realized that these very things had also been written about Him: After Jesus’ resurrection and ascension the disciples remembered what was written in the Old Testament about the Messiah. They realized only then that prophecies in the Scriptures referred to Jesus. It may therefore be natural to say:

realized that these things had been written about him (NLT)

these very things had also been written about Him: This clause indicates that the verses in the Scriptures that were quoted in 12:15 refer to Jesus. The prophets had written these things down many years before Jesus came, but they wrote about Jesus. The verb phrase had also been written is passive and there are at least two ways to translate it:

Use a passive verb. For example:
these things had been written about him (NLT)
Use an active verb. For example:
the scripture said this about him (GNT)

Use the expression that is most natural in your language in this context.

UTN uW Translation Notes:

Note 1 topic: figures-of-speech / explicit

(Occurrence -1) ταῦτα

(Some words not found in SR-GNT: ταῦτα οὐκ ἔγνωσαν αὐτοῦ Οἱ Μαθηταί τό πρῶτον ἀλλʼ ὅτε ἐδοξάσθη Ἰησοῦς τότε ἐμνήσθησαν ὅτι ταῦτα ἦν ἐπʼ αὐτῷ γεγραμμένα καί ταῦτα ἐποίησαν αὐτῷ)

In this verse, these things refers to the words of the Old Testament prophecies that were quoted in the previous verse, which were fulfilled in the events described in [12:13–14](../12/13.md). If it would be helpful to your readers, you could state this explicitly. Alternate translation: [these words from the scriptures]

Note 2 topic: figures-of-speech / activepassive

ὅτε ἐδοξάσθη Ἰησοῦς

when ˓was˒_glorified Jesus

If your language does not use the passive form in this way, you could express the idea in active form or in another way that is natural in your language. If you must state who did the action, John implies that God did it. Alternate translation: [when God glorified Jesus]

Note 3 topic: figures-of-speech / explicit

ἐδοξάσθη

˓was˒_glorified

Here, glorified could refer to: (1) when Jesus became alive again after he was killed. Alternate translation: [when Jesus came back to life] (2) when Jesus returned to heaven. Alternate translation: [when Jesus went back to heaven] (3) both Jesus’ resurrection and return to heaven. Alternate translation: [when Jesus came back to life and went back to heaven]

Note 4 topic: figures-of-speech / activepassive

ταῦτα ἦν ἐπ’ αὐτῷ γεγραμμένα

these_‹things› these_‹things› was concerning him ˓having_been˒_written

If your language does not use the passive form in this way, you could express the idea in active form or in another way that is natural in your language. Alternate translation: [the prophets have written these things about him]

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Jesus’ Final Journey to Jerusalem

Much like the difficulties of discerning the Israelites’ journey to the Promised Land (see here), the task of reconciling the four Gospel accounts of Jesus’ final journey to Jerusalem into one coherent itinerary has proven very challenging for Bible scholars. As with many other events during Jesus’ ministry, the accounts of Matthew, Mark, and Luke (often referred to as the Synoptic Gospels) present a noticeably similar account of Jesus’ final travels, while John’s Gospel presents an itinerary that is markedly different from the others. In general, the Synoptic Gospels present Jesus as making a single journey to Jerusalem, beginning in Capernaum (Luke 9:51), passing through Perea (Matthew 19:1-2; Mark 10:1) and Jericho (Matthew 20:29-34; Mark 10:46-52; Luke 18:35-19:10), and ending at Bethany and Bethphage, where he enters Jerusalem riding on a donkey (Matthew 21:1-11; Mark 11:1-11; Luke 19:28-44). John, on the other hand, mentions several trips to Jerusalem by Jesus (John 2:13-17; 5:1-15; 7:1-13; 10:22-23), followed by a trip to Perea across the Jordan River (John 10:40-42), a return to Bethany where he raises Lazarus from the dead (John 11), a withdrawal to the village of Ephraim for a few months (John 11:54), and a return trip to Bethany, where he then enters Jerusalem riding on a donkey (John 12:1-19). The differences between the Synoptics’ and John’s accounts are noteworthy, but they are not irreconcilable. The Synoptics, after noting that Jesus began his trip at Capernaum, likely condensed their accounts (as occurs elsewhere in the Gospels) to omit Jesus’ initial arrival in Jerusalem and appearance at the Festival of Dedication, thus picking up with Jesus in Perea (stage 2 of John’s itinerary). Then all the Gospels recount Jesus’ trip (back) to Bethany and Jerusalem, passing through Jericho along the way. Likewise, the Synoptics must have simply omitted the few months Jesus spent in Ephraim to escape the Jewish leaders (stage 4 of John’s itinerary) and rejoined John’s account where Jesus is preparing to enter Jerusalem on a donkey.

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Bethany and Bethphage

Matthew 21:1-17; Mark 11:1-11; Luke 19:28-48; John 12:1-19; see also Matthew 26:6-13; Mark 14:3-9

At the start of Passover one week before he was crucified, Jesus and his disciples traveled to Jerusalem, approaching the city from the east. When they arrived at the village of Bethphage, Jesus mounted a donkey and rode down the Mount of Olives as a humble king entering his capital city. Along the way, many people laid branches and cloaks in his path to welcome him. After Jesus entered the city, he immediately went up to the Temple and drove out the moneychangers and merchants there, and he healed the blind and the lame. Then he traveled nearly two miles outside the city to the village of Bethany to spend the night, which appears to have been where he typically lodged each night while visiting Jerusalem during the crowded Passover festival. Bethany is also where Jesus’ close friends Mary, Martha, and Lazarus lived. One evening while Jesus was there at a large dinner party given in his honor, Martha served the food, and Mary poured expensive perfume on Jesus’ feet and wiped his feet with her hair.

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Jerusalem during the New Testament

By the time of the New Testament, the ancient city of Jerusalem had been transformed from the relatively small fortress of David’s day (2 Samuel 5:6-10; 1 Chronicles 11:4-9) into a major city with a Temple that rivaled the greatest temples in the Roman world. Just prior to Jesus’ birth, Herod the Great completely renovated and expanded the Temple of the Lord, and he also built a lavish palace for himself, various pools (where Jesus occasionally performed healings), public buildings, and military citadels, including the Antonia Fortress, which overlooked the Temple. Wealthy residents, including the high priest, occupied extravagant houses in the Upper City, while the poorer residents were relegated to less desirable areas like the Lower City. The Essene Quarter was so named because many of its residents belonged to the Essenes, a strict religious sect that was known for its careful attention to the law of Moses. Across the Kidron Valley lay the Garden of Gethsemane, where Jesus often met with his disciples (Matthew 26:36-46; Mark 14:32-53; John 18:1-14). Further east was the Mount of Olives, where Jesus began his triumphal entry one week before his crucifixion (Matthew 21:1-11; Mark 11:1-11; Luke 19:28-40; John 12:12-19), taught his disciples about the last days (Matthew 24-25; Mark 13), and eventually ascended to heaven after his resurrection (Luke 24:50-53; Acts 1:1-11).

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