1 COR 14:17 Parallel Verse View

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OET (OET-RV) Yes, you’d certainly give thanks well, but the other people wouldn’t be encouraged.

Key: khaki:verbs, light-green:nominative/subject, red:negative.
Note: Automatic aligning of the OET-RV to the LV is done by some temporary software, hence the RV alignments are incomplete (and may occasionally be wrong).

UST In this situation, you praise God appropriately. However, you do not help other people become stronger.

AICNT For you indeed give thanks well, but the other person is not built up.

OEB Your thanksgiving may be excellent, but the other is not helped by it.

WEBBE For you most certainly give thanks well, but the other person is not built up.

WMBB (Same as above)

NET For you are certainly giving thanks well, but the other person is not strengthened.

LSV For you, indeed, give thanks well, but the other is not built up!

FBV You might have said a great prayer of thanks, but the other hasn't been helped!

TCNT For yoʋ may very well be giving thanks, but the other person is not edified.

T4T You may be thanking God very well, but you are not helping them.

LEB For indeed you are giving thanks well, but the other person is not edified.

BBE For your giving of the blessing is certainly well done, but of no profit to the man without knowledge.

Moff Your thanksgiving may be all right, but then — the other man is not edified!

Wymth Rightly enough you are giving thanks, and yet your neighbor is not benefited.

ASV For thou verily givest thanks well, but the other is not edified.

DRA For thou indeed givest thanks well, but the other is not edified.

YLT for thou, indeed, dost give thanks well, but the other is not built up!

Drby For thou indeed givest thanks well, but the other is not edified.

RV For thou verily givest thanks well, but the other is not edified.
(For thou/you verily/truly givest/give thanks well, but the other is not edified. )

SLT For thou truly givest thanks well, but the other is not built up.

Wbstr For thou verily givest thanks well, but the other is not edified.

KJB-1769 For thou verily givest thanks well, but the other is not edified.
(For thou/you verily/truly givest/give thanks well, but the other is not edified. )

KJB-1611 For thou verily giuest thankes well: but the other is not edified.
(Modernised spelling is same as from KJB-1769 above, apart from punctuation)

Bshps Thou veryly geuest thankes well: but the other is not edified.
(Thou/You verily/truly givest/give thanks well: but the other is not edified.)

Gnva For thou verely giuest thankes well, but the other is not edified.
(For thou/you verily/truly givest/give thanks well, but the other is not edified. )

Cvdl Thou geuest well thankes, but the other is not edifyed.
(Thou/You givest/give well thanks, but the other is not edifyed.)

TNT Thou verely gevest thankes well but the other is not edyfied.
(Thou/You verily/truly gevest thanks well but the other is not edyfied. )

Wycl For thou doist wel thankyngis, but an othir man is not edefied.
(For thou/you dost/do well thankings, but an other man is not edefied.)

Luth Du danksagest wohl fein; aber der andere wird nicht davon gebessert.
(You(sg) danksagest probably/well fine; but the/of_the other/different becomes not of_that givessert.)

ClVg Nam tu quidem bene gratias agis, sed alter non ædificatur.
(For/Surely you(sg) indeed well graces you_are_doing, but the_other not/no buildsur. )

UGNT σὺ μὲν γὰρ καλῶς εὐχαριστεῖς, ἀλλ’ ὁ ἕτερος οὐκ οἰκοδομεῖται.
(su men gar kalōs euⱪaristeis, all’ ho heteros ouk oikodomeitai.)

SBL-GNT σὺ μὲν γὰρ καλῶς εὐχαριστεῖς, ἀλλʼ ὁ ἕτερος οὐκ οἰκοδομεῖται.
(su men gar kalōs euⱪaristeis, allʼ ho heteros ouk oikodomeitai.)

RP-GNT Σὺ μὲν γὰρ καλῶς εὐχαριστεῖς, ἀλλ' ὁ ἕτερος οὐκ οἰκοδομεῖται.
(Su men gar kalōs euⱪaristeis, all' ho heteros ouk oikodomeitai.)

TC-GNT Σὺ μὲν γὰρ καλῶς εὐχαριστεῖς, ἀλλ᾽ ὁ ἕτερος οὐκ οἰκοδομεῖται.
(Su men gar kalōs euⱪaristeis, all ho heteros ouk oikodomeitai. )

Key for above GNTs: yellow:punctuation differs, orange:accents differ, red:words differ (from our SR-GNT base).

SOTN SIL Open Translator’s Notes:

Section 14:1–40 Believers should worship God in an orderly way

In this section Paul instructed the Corinthian believers about how they should worship God together. First, he compared prophecy and tongues. He stressed the value of prophecy for building up the church. Then he said they should conduct their worship services in an orderly and harmonious way. They were not to speak all at once. People who spoke in tongues should have someone to interpret, and women were to remain silent in the assembly.

Here are some other possible section headings:

Good order in worship

The spiritual gifts of prophecy and tongues

Use spiritual gifts to help the church grow

Paragraph 14:13–19

In this paragraph Paul discussed the importance of using one’s understanding while worshiping God. He told people who speak in tongues in church to interpret what they say, so that other people can understand and benefit from it.

14:17a

You may be giving thanks well enough,

You^(sing) may have thanked God very well/nicely,
You are saying good prayers of thanks,

You may be giving thanks well enough:

Here are some other ways to translate this clause:

Even though you^(sing) are thanking God well

You are saying good prayers of thanks

If you pray thanking God like this it is good

14:17b

but the other one is not edified.

but the other person is not strengthened.
but you have not built up other people.

but: The Greek conjunction that the BSB translates as but introduces a contrast with what one might expect. One might expect that a good prayer will help the listeners, but it will not help them in this case.

the other one is not edified: The phrase the other one is not edified indicates that the person listening is not strengthened as a believer. He is not helped to understand his faith better or grow as a Christian. The Greek verb translated as edified is the same as the one used in 14:4.

Here is another way to translate this phrase:

the other person is not built up at all (NJB)

This is a passive clause. There are two ways to translate this;

Use a passive verb. For example:
the other person is not helped at all (GNT)
Use an active verb. For example:
you do not build up the other person

Translate this in whichever way is most natural in your language.

the other one: The Greek phrase that the BSB translates as the other one refers to either men or women.

General Comment on 14:17

You can adjust the person and the number of the pronouns to fit what is natural in your language.

Here are some other ways to translate this clause:

They may be giving thanks well, but no one else is edified.

We^(incl) may be giving thanks well, but they are not edified.

UTN uW Translation Notes:

Note 1 topic: figures-of-speech / yousingular

σὺ μὲν & εὐχαριστεῖς

(Some words not found in SR-GNT: Σύ μέν γάρ καλῶς εὐχαριστεῖς ἀλλʼ ὁ ἕτερος οὐκ οἰκοδομεῖται)

Here Paul continues to use one of the Corinthians as an example. Because of this, you in this verse is singular. If it would be helpful in your language, you could translate the second-person singular as a second-person plural, or explicitly state that you functions as an example. Alternate translation: [you, for example, certainly give thanks]

Note 2 topic: figures-of-speech / genericnoun

ὁ ἕτερος

the other_‹one›

Paul is speaking of other people in general, not of one particular person. If it would be helpful in your language, you could express this form with a form that refers to people in general. Alternate translation: [any other person]

Note 3 topic: figures-of-speech / metaphor

ὁ ἕτερος οὐκ οἰκοδομεῖται

the other_‹one› not ˓is_being˒_built

Just as in [14:4](../14/04.md), Paul here speaks as if a person were a building that one “builds up.” With this metaphor, he emphasizes that you who are “giving thanks” are not helping other people become stronger, unlike the one who builds a house and thus makes it strong and complete. If it would be helpful in your language, you could express this figure of speech with a comparable metaphor or express the idea plainly. Alternate translation: [the other person is not helped to grow] or [the other person is not edified]

Note 4 topic: figures-of-speech / activepassive