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OET (OET-LV) As it_has_been_written, that On_account of_you, we_are_being_put_to_death all the day, we_were_counted as sheep of_slaughter.
OET (OET-RV) As it’s been written:
⇔ ‘We are being put to death all day
⇔ on your account.
⇔ We were counted like sheep ready to be slaughtered.’
In this section, Paul asked a number of rhetorical questions. In asking them he expected the believers in Rome to agree with him in these ways: God is for us and no one has greater power than him when they stand against us. God has made us right with him, so no one can accuse us of wrongdoing that God has not already forgiven. Jesus died for our sins and rose again, so no one can say we are worthy of God punishing us. Nothing of this earth or of the demons and spirits can separate us from God’s love. With God’s power we can overcome all those things.
Here are other possible headings for this section:
God’s love for us because of Jesus Christ
The love of God will not abandon/leave us
As it is written:
It is like the words written in Scripture,
These things happen to God’s people, like the psalm writer said to him/God in his/God’s Word/Book,
As: Here this word indicates a comparison between experiencing any of tribulation, distress, persecution, famine, nakedness, danger, or death by sword (8:35b–c) and “for Your sake we face death all day long; we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered” (8:36b–c). The Scripture supports Paul’s implied statement that believers experience tribulation, distress, persecution, famine, nakedness, danger, and death by sword. In some languages it is more clear to make the implied statement explicit. For example:
We experience those/such things, as
Hardships like these are exactly what that which God caused-to-be-written is talking about which saysKankanaey Back Translation on TW.
We are like this written talk of GodYongkom Back Translation, by this author, unpublished manuscript, Papua New Guinea.
it is written: This Psalm was written more than 500 years before Paul wrote the letter to the Romans. In some languages a literal translation would wrongly indicate the quote was written at the same time as Paul wrote here. If that is true in your language, indicate it was long before Paul wrote. For example:
it was written long ago
This clause refers to what was written in the Old Testament. Some languages must explicitly say that to make that clear. For example:
as scripture says (GNT)
it says in the Holy Book
See how you translated this phrase in 1:17 or 4:17.
In 8:36b, the word “Your” refers to God. In some languages it would be more clear to indicate to whom the writer is writing. For example:
someone wrote to God in Scripture
“For Your sake we face death all day long;
“We(excl) follow/obey you, and so we are being killed at all times of the day.
“Morning, afternoon, and night, people are killing us because we are your people.
For Your sake we face death all day long: The phrase For Your sake is emphasized by being first in the clause. Some languages must have this phrase in its normal place. For example:
We are being killed all the day long for your sake
For Your sake: This is a quote from Psalm 44:22. The writer spoke on behalf of himself and his fellow Jews. They willingly faced danger in order to stand strong for God. Paul used it here to refer to himself and his fellow believers who did the same thing. Here are other ways to translate this phrase:
For you (CEV)
because we believe in youOtomi Back Translation on TW.
You should not refer explicitly to Jews or believers to explain “we” here.
we face death: The Greek verb here is more literally “we are killed.” This clause is passive. Some languages must use an active clause here. For example:
others are killing us
The present tense indicates that the killing continues.
all day long: This phrase indicates that the killers kill at any time of day (or night). Here the words all day long are general and refer to any day. Here are other ways to translate this phrase:
at all times (GNT)
all the day (NABRE)
we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered.”
We are considered to be like sheep to be killed.”
They think that they can kill us like people kill sheep.”
we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered: There is no connecting word at the beginning of 8:36c to connect it to 8:36b, but the context implies a connection between the two. Both sentences refer to the same event: enemies of God killing his people. So languages need to make the connection explicit. For example:
It is also like this: we are regarded as sheep to be slaughtered
we are considered: This clause is passive. Some languages must use an active clause. For example:
they/people consider us
sheep to be slaughtered: This clause is passive. Some languages must use an active clause. For example:
sheep for them to slaughter
sheep: The animals called sheep are tame. They usually stay in groups. They weigh 40 to 60 kilograms. They eat plants. Here the writer of this psalm referred to sheep because they are easy to kill. They do not run away or fight back.
In some languages people are not familiar with sheep. If that is true in your language, you may want to:
Explain the word in your translation. For example:
animals called sheep
Use the major language word. If people are not familiar with this word, you may want to explain it in a footnote. Here is an example footnote:
Sheep refers to a medium-sized tame animal. They were easy to kill.
slaughtered: This word refers to killing animals for food. But the idea of eating is not important here. For example:
killed (NCV)
These words are a quote found in Psalm 44:22. If you indicate the location of quotes from the Old Testament with cross-references, you may want to do so here.
Note 1 topic: writing-quotations
καθὼς γέγραπται
(Some words not found in SR-GNT: Καθώς γέγραπται ὅτι Ἕνεκεν σοῦ θανατούμεθα ὅλην τήν ἡμέραν ἐλογίσθημεν ὡς πρόβατα σφαγῆς)
See how you translated this phrase in [1:17](../01/17.md).
Note 2 topic: figures-of-speech / activepassive
καθὼς γέγραπται
(Some words not found in SR-GNT: Καθώς γέγραπται ὅτι Ἕνεκεν σοῦ θανατούμεθα ὅλην τήν ἡμέραν ἐλογίσθημεν ὡς πρόβατα σφαγῆς)
If your language does not use the passive form in this way, you can state this in active form or in another way that is natural in your language. If you must state who did the action, the quotation was written by the sons of Korah. Alternate translation: [Just as the sons of Korah wrote]
Note 3 topic: figures-of-speech / quotemarks
ὅτι ἕνεκεν σοῦ, θανατούμεθα ὅλην τὴν ἡμέραν; ἐλογίσθημεν ὡς πρόβατα σφαγῆς
¬that (Some words not found in SR-GNT: Καθώς γέγραπται ὅτι Ἕνεκεν σοῦ θανατούμεθα ὅλην τήν ἡμέραν ἐλογίσθημεν ὡς πρόβατα σφαγῆς)
In these clauses Paul quotes [Psalm 44:22](../psa/044/022.md). It may be helpful to your readers to indicate this by setting off all of this material with quotation marks or with whatever punctuation or convention your language uses to indicate a quotation.
Note 4 topic: figures-of-speech / yousingular
ὅτι ἕνεκεν σοῦ
¬that (Some words not found in SR-GNT: Καθώς γέγραπται ὅτι Ἕνεκεν σοῦ θανατούμεθα ὅλην τήν ἡμέραν ἐλογίσθημεν ὡς πρόβατα σφαγῆς)
Here, your is singular and refers to God. If it would be helpful in your language, you could state this explicitly. Alternate translation: [For your sake, God,]
Note 5 topic: figures-of-speech / exclusive
θανατούμεθα & ἐλογίσθημεν
˱we˲_˓are_being˒_put_to_death & ˱we˲_˓were˒_reckoned
Here, we refers to the people who wrote this verse, so it would be exclusive. It does not refer to God, who is the one being spoken to. Your language may require you to mark these forms.
Note 6 topic: figures-of-speech / activepassive
θανατούμεθα & ἐλογίσθημεν
˱we˲_˓are_being˒_put_to_death & ˱we˲_˓were˒_reckoned
If your language does not use the passive form in this way, you can state this in active form or in another way that is natural in your language. Alternate translation: [our enemies put us to death … They consider us]
Note 7 topic: figures-of-speech / hyperbole
θανατούμεθα ὅλην τὴν ἡμέραν
˱we˲_˓are_being˒_put_to_death all (Some words not found in SR-GNT: Καθώς γέγραπται ὅτι Ἕνεκεν σοῦ θανατούμεθα ὅλην τήν ἡμέραν ἐλογίσθημεν ὡς πρόβατα σφαγῆς)
The phrase all day long is an exaggeration that emphasizes how frequently these people were being killed. If it would be helpful in your language, you could express the meaning plainly. Alternate translation: [we are killed regularly]
Note 8 topic: figures-of-speech / simile
ἐλογίσθημεν ὡς πρόβατα σφαγῆς
˱we˲_˓were˒_reckoned as sheep ˱of˲_slaughter
Here Paul compares to sheep those whom people kill because they are loyal to God. If it would be helpful in your language, you could express the meaning plainly. Alternate translation: [We are considered by those who kill us to only be as valuable as the sheep they kill]
Note 9 topic: figures-of-speech / abstractnouns
σφαγῆς
˱of˲_slaughter
If your language does not use an abstract noun for the idea of slaughter, you could express the same idea in another way. Alternate translation: [to be slaughtered]
OET (OET-LV) As it_has_been_written, that On_account of_you, we_are_being_put_to_death all the day, we_were_counted as sheep of_slaughter.
OET (OET-RV) As it’s been written:
⇔ ‘We are being put to death all day
⇔ on your account.
⇔ We were counted like sheep ready to be slaughtered.’
Note: The OET-RV is still only a first draft, and so far only a few words have been (mostly automatically) matched to the Hebrew or Greek words that they’re translated from.
Acknowledgements: The SR Greek text, lemmas, morphology, and VLT gloss are all thanks to the CNTR.