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Parallel 2CH 25:12

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BI 2Ch 25:12 ©

Text critical issues=none Clarity of original=clearImportance=normal(All still tentative.)

OET (OET-RV)

OET-LVAnd_ten thousand(s) alive they_took_captive the_people of_Yəhūdāh and_took_them to_top the_cliff and_threw_down_them from_top the_rock and_all_them they_were_split_open.

UHBוַ⁠עֲשֶׂ֨רֶת אֲלָפִ֜ים חַיִּ֗ים שָׁבוּ֙ בְּנֵ֣י יְהוּדָ֔ה וַ⁠יְבִיא֖וּ⁠ם לְ⁠רֹ֣אשׁ הַ⁠סָּ֑לַע וַ⁠יַּשְׁלִיכ֛וּ⁠ם מֵֽ⁠רֹאשׁ־הַ⁠סֶּ֖לַע וְ⁠כֻלָּ֥⁠ם נִבְקָֽעוּ׃ס
   (va⁠ˊₐseret ʼₐlāfim ḩayyim shāⱱū bənēy yəhūdāh va⁠yəⱱīʼū⁠m lə⁠roʼsh ha⁠şşālaˊ va⁠yyashlīkū⁠m mē⁠roʼsh-ha⁠şşelaˊ və⁠kullā⁠m niⱱqāˊū)

Key: khaki:verbs.
Note: Automatic aligning of the OET-RV to the LV is done by some temporary software, hence the OET-RV alignments are incomplete (and may occasionally be wrong).

BrLXXΚαὶ δέκα χιλιάδας ἐζώγρησαν οἱ υἱοὶ Ἰούδα, καὶ ἔφερον αὐτοὺς ἐπὶ τὸ ἄκρον τοῦ κρημνοῦ, καὶ κατεκρήμνιζον αὐτοὺς ἀπὸ τοῦ ἄκρου τοῦ κρημνοῦ, καὶ πάντες διεῤῥήγνυντο.
   (Kai deka ⱪiliadas ezōgraʸsan hoi huioi Youda, kai eferon autous epi to akron tou kraʸmnou, kai katekraʸmnizon autous apo tou akrou tou kraʸmnou, kai pantes dieɽɽaʸgnunto. )

BrTrAnd the children of Juda took ten thousand prisoners, and they carried them to the top of the precipice, and cast them headlong from the top of the precipice, and they were all dashed to pieces.

ULTAnd 10,000 alive the sons of Judah took captive. And they brought them to the head of the cliff, and they threw them from the head of the cliff. And all of them were dashed to pieces.

USTThe army of Judah also captured ten thousand other soldiers, took them to the top of a cliff, and threw them all down over the cliff, with the result that their bodies were all smashed to pieces.

BSBand the army of Judah also captured 10,000 men alive. They took them to the top of a cliff and threw them down so that all were dashed to pieces.


OEBNo OEB 2CH book available

WEBBEThe children of Judah carried away ten thousand alive, and brought them to the top of the rock, and threw them down from the top of the rock, so that they all were broken in pieces.

WMBB (Same as above)

NETThe men of Judah captured 10,000 men alive. They took them to the top of a cliff and threw them over. All the captives fell to their death.

LSVAnd the sons of Judah have taken captive ten thousand alive, and they bring them to the top of the rock, and cast them from the top of the rock, and all of them have been broken.

FBVThe army of Judah also captured another ten thousand, took them to the top of a cliff and threw them off, killing them all.

T4TThe army of Judah also captured 10,000 others, and took them to the top of a cliff and threw them all down over the cliff, with the result that their corpses were all smashed to pieces.

LEBNow the troops[fn] captured ten thousand others alive, and they brought them to the top of the rock and threw them from the top of the rock. So all of them were smashed to pieces.


25:12 Literally “the sons of the troop”

BBEAnd ten thousand more the children of Israel took living, and made them go up to the top of the rock, pushing them down from the top of the rock so that their bodies were broken by the fall.

MoffNo Moff 2CH book available

JPSAnd other ten thousand did the children of Judah carry away alive, and brought them unto the top of the Rock, and cast them down from the top of the Rock, that they all were broken in pieces.

ASVAnd other ten thousand did the children of Judah carry away alive, and brought them unto the top of the rock, and cast them down from the top of the rock, so that they were all broken in pieces.

DRAAnd other ten thousand men the sons of Juda took, and brought to the steep of a certain rock, and cast them down headlong from the top, and they all were broken to pieces.

YLTAnd ten thousand alive have the sons of Judah taken captive, and they bring them to the top of the rock, and cast them from the top of the rock, and all of them have been broken.

DrbyAnd the children of Judah took ten thousand captive, alive, and brought them to the top of the cliff, and cast them down from the top of the cliff, so that they all were broken in pieces.

RVAnd other ten thousand did the children of Judah carry away alive, and brought them unto the top of the rock, and cast them down from the top of the rock, that they all were broken in pieces.

WbstrAnd other ten thousand left alive the children of Judah carried away captive, and brought them to the top of the rock, and cast them down from the top of the rock, that they were all broken in pieces.

KJB-1769And other ten thousand left alive did the children of Judah carry away captive, and brought them unto the top of the rock, and cast them down from the top of the rock, that they all were broken in pieces.
   (And other ten thousand left alive did the children of Yudah carry away captive, and brought them unto the top of the rock, and cast them down from the top of the rock, that they all were broken in pieces. )

KJB-1611And other ten thousand left aliue, did the children of Iudah cary away captiue, and brought them vnto the top of the rocke, and cast them downe from the top of the rocke, that they all were broken in pieces.
   (Modernised spelling is same as from KJB-1769 above, apart from punctuation)

BshpsAnd other ten thousand did the children of Iuda take alyue, & caried them vnto the top of a rocke, and cast them downe from the top of the rocke, that they all to burst.
   (And other ten thousand did the children of Yudah take alive, and carried them unto the top of a rock, and cast them down from the top of the rock, that they all to burst.)

GnvaAnd other ten thousand did the children of Iudah take aliue, and caryed them to the top of a rocke, and cast them downe from the top of the rocke, and they all burst to pieces.
   (And other ten thousand did the children of Yudah take alive, and carried them to the top of a rock, and cast them down from the top of the rock, and they all burst to pieces. )

CvdlAnd the childre of Iuda toke ten thousande of the alyue, whom they broughte vp to the toppe of a mountayne, and cast the downe headlinges from the toppe of the mount, so that they all to barst in sunder.
   (And the children of Yudah took ten thousand of the alive, whom they brought up to the top of a mountain, and cast the down headlinges from the top of the mount, so that they all to barst in sunder.)

WyclAnd the sones of Juda token othere ten thousynde of men, and brouyten to the hiy scarre of summe stoon; and castiden hem doun fro the hiyeste in to the pit; whiche alle braken.
   (And the sons of Yudah token other ten thousand of men, and brought to the high scarre of some stone; and cast/throw them down from the highest in to the pit; which all braken.)

LuthUnd die Kinder Juda fingen ihrer zehntausend lebendig; die führeten sie auf die Spitze eines Felsen und stürzten sie von der Spitze des Felsen, daß sie alle zerborsten.
   (And the children Yuda fingen of_their/her zehntausend lifedig; the led they/she/them on the Spitze one Felsen and stürzten they/she/them from the/of_the Spitze the Felsen, that they/she/them all zerborsten.)

ClVget alia decem millia virorum ceperunt filii Juda, et adduxerunt ad præruptum cujusdam petræ, præcipitaveruntque eos de summo in præceps: qui universi crepuerunt.
   (and other ten thousands of_men ceperunt children Yuda, and adduxerunt to præruptum cuyusdam petræ, præcipitaveruntque them about summo in præceps: who universi crepuerunt. )


UTNuW Translation Notes:

Note 1 topic: translate-numbers

(Occurrence 0) another ten thousand

(Some words not found in UHB: and,ten thousand life(pl) captured sons_of Yehuda and,took,them to,top the,cliff and,threw_~_down,them from,top the,rock and,all,them dashed_to_pieces )

“another 10,000 soldiers”

Note 2 topic: figures-of-speech / hyperbole

(Occurrence 0) so that they were all broken in pieces

(Some words not found in UHB: and,ten thousand life(pl) captured sons_of Yehuda and,took,them to,top the,cliff and,threw_~_down,them from,top the,rock and,all,them dashed_to_pieces )

This is an exaggeration to emphasize the thoroughness of the slaughter. Alternate translation: “so that they were all completely destroyed”


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Edom and the Land of Seir

While the location of Mount Sinai is arguably the most significant unresolved debate remaining in Bible geography, it is this author’s estimation that the borders of Edom and Seir (also called “Mount Seir” and “the highlands of Seir”) have actually led to a greater amount of confusion regarding where related events took place. This confusion stems primarily from a key misunderstanding widely held about Edom and Seir: that Seir was located either solely or primarily on the eastern side of the Arabah (the low valley dividing virtually all of Israel from northern end of the Jordan River to the city of Elath on the Red Sea). But this author is convinced that, prior to the later Old Testament, all biblical references to Seir regard it as a sub-region within the greater area of Edom, and it was located on the western side of the Arabah. To be clear, the biblical accounts consistently affirm that the nation of Edom (the descendants of Esau) occupied the eastern side of the Arabah and even had their own rulers before the Israelites had kings (Genesis 36), as shown on this map. But this area is not typically what is intended when the biblical writers use the term Seir. (A nearly exhaustive list of references to Seir as a geographical term includes: Genesis 14:6; 32-33; 36; Numbers 24:18; Deuteronomy 1:2, 44; 2:1-12, 22-29; 33:2; Joshua 11:17; 12:7; 24:4; Judges 5:4; 1 Chronicles 1:38; 4:42; 2 Chronicles 20:10-23; 25:11-14; Isaiah 21:11; Ezekiel 35:2-15.) Also, it should be noted that the assumption that Seir was located east of the Arabah is at least as old as the writings of Josephus (Ant., IV, iv, 7) immediately after the New Testament, for he seems to assume this. Yet, Josephus’s overall reliability regarding the location of the events of the wilderness wanderings (and thus Seir) is called into question by his misidentification of Mount Hor with Jebel Nebi Harun (see “The Israelites’ Journeys in the Wilderness” map), so it is very possible he was also mistaken about Seir. Similarly, though it is commonly concluded that the term Seir can be found in the name ash-Sharat, it should be noted that the Arabic term for the eastern mountains of Edom was likely applied to the region several hundred years after the close of the Old Testament era and the time of Josephus, so it is possible that the term Seir had long since shifted to the eastern mountains by this time. Also, while archeological data confirms that eastern Edom was populated with a settled civilization before western Edom, this data likely would not accurately reflect habitation by semi-nomadic peoples such as Esau and his earlier descendants, whose settlements would have been largely temporary and unlikely to be recovered. In terms of biblical evidence, however, several verses support and even seem to require that Seir be located on the western side of the Arabah (Deuteronomy 2:1; Joshua 12:7; 1 Chronicles 4:42-43; see also Joshua 15:1) and also that Seir was only a sub-region within the larger Edomite nation (Ezekiel 35:15). And while some verses seem ambiguous regarding the location of Seir, none of them offer compelling testimony that it should be located east of the Arabah. A few passages (for example, 2 Chronicles 25; Ezekiel 35 [though see v. 15]) seem at times to use the term Seir to refer to all of Edom, but they never use it to refer only to eastern Edom. Instead, they appear to use the term in a similar way that the biblical writers sometimes symbolically use the term Ephraim to refer to all the northern Israelite tribes (Isaiah 7-11; Jeremiah 31; Hosea 5-14; Zechariah 9-10), though it was widely understood that Ephraim only occupied a specific portion of tribal territory within the land of Israel. If the borders of Seir, however, are relocated west of the Arabah, as shown here at the time of Joshua’s allotment of Canaan, several related stories in the Bible make better sense. For example, the journeys of Jacob and Esau as they meet each other and part once again make the best sense if Esau was arriving from a location on the west side of the Jordan River (Genesis 32-33; also see “Jacob Returns to Canaan” and “Jacob Travels to Southern Canaan” maps). Likewise it is easiest to envision the Israelites skirting the land of Seir after turning back from Kadesh (Deuteronomy 2:1; see “The Israelites’ Journeys in the Wilderness” map) if Seir was located west of the Arabah. Joshua’s description of Judah’s southern border also makes the most sense if Seir (and thus Edom) was located west of the Arabah (Joshua 15:1). In the time of Hezekiah, a western location for Seir makes it easiest to envision a company of 500 Simeonites exterminating a remnant of Amalekites there and settling in their place (1 Chronicles 4:42-43; see “Hezekiah Strengthens Judah” map). Finally, the prophet Ezekiel cursed the Edomites for encroaching far north of Judah’s southern border after the Babylonians ravaged the land (Ezekiel 35), and this is easiest to envision if the Edomites already occupied land immediately south of Judah. And by way of extrapolation, if it is to be assumed that the Horites, who formerly inhabited Seir (Deuteronomy 2:12), took their name from Mount Hor or that Mount Hor was named after them, then it is likely that this peak where Aaron died was located somewhere within the region of Seir as it is shown here (see “The Israelites’ Journeys in the Wilderness” map).

BI 2Ch 25:12 ©