1SA 30:24 Parallel Verse View

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OET (OET-RV) Who’ll listen to you all when you talk like that? The portion for the ones who went and fought will be the same as for those who stayed with the equipment. They’ll all share alike.

Key: khaki:verbs.
Note: Automatic aligning of the OET-RV to the LV is done by some temporary software, hence the OET-RV alignments are incomplete (and may occasionally be wrong).

BrLXX Καὶ τίς ἐπακούσεται ὑμῶν τῶν λόγων τούτων; ὅτιδοὐχ ἧττον ἡμῶν εἰσι, διότι κατὰ τὴν μερίδα τοῦ καταβαίνοντος εἰς τὸν πόλεμον, οὕτως ἔσται ἡ μερὶς τοῦ καθημένου ἐπὶ τὰ σκεύη, κατὰ τὸ αὐτὸ μεριοῦνται.
(Kai tis epakousetai humōn tōn logōn toutōn; hotidouⱪ haʸtton haʸmōn eisi, dioti kata taʸn merida tou katabainontos eis ton polemon, houtōs estai haʸ meris tou kathaʸmenou epi ta skeuaʸ, kata to auto meriountai. )

BrTr And who will hearken to these your words? for they are not [fn]inferior to us; for according to the portion of him that went down to the battle, so shall be the portion of him that abides with the baggage; they shall share alike.

ULT And who will listen to you with respect to this matter? For as is the portion of the one who went down in the battle, so shall be the portion of the one who stayed with the things. They shall be apportioned together.”

UST Who will pay attention to you if you say things like that? The men who stayed here with our supplies will get the same amount that the men who went into the battle will get. They will all receive the same amount.”

BSB Who will listen to your proposal? The share of the one who went to battle will match the share of the one who stayed with the supplies. They will share alike.”

OEB Who will give heed to you in this matter? For:
⇔ As is the share of him who goes down into battle,
⇔ So is the share of him who remains with the baggage.
⇔ They must share alike.’

WEBBE Who will listen to you in this matter? For as his share is who goes down to the battle, so shall his share be who stays with the baggage. They shall share alike.”

WMBB (Same as above)

NET Who will listen to you in this matter? The portion of the one who went down into the battle will be the same as the portion of the one who remained with the equipment! Let their portions be the same!”

LSV and who listens to you in this thing? For as the portion of him who was brought down into battle, so also [is] the portion of him who is abiding by the vessels—they share alike.”

FBV Who's going to listen to you when you say such things? Whatever share those who went into battle receive will be the same as those who stayed to guard the supplies.”

T4T ◄Who will pay attention to you if you say things like that?/No one will pay attention to you if you say things like that.► [RHQ] The men who stayed here with our supplies will get the same amount that the men who went into the battle will get. They will all receive the same amount.”

LEB And who would listen to you regarding this matter? For as the share of the one who went down into the battle, so the share of the one who remained with the baggage will be. They will share alike.”

BBE Who is going to give any attention to you in this question? for an equal part will be given to him who went to the fight and to him who was waiting by the goods: they are all to have the same.

Moff No Moff 1SA book available

JPS And who will hearken unto you in this matter? for as is the share of him that goeth down to the battle, so shall be the share of him that tarrieth by the baggage; they shall share alike.'

ASV And who will hearken unto you in this matter? for as his share is that goeth down to the battle, so shall his share be that tarrieth by the baggage: they shall share alike.

DRA And no man shall hearken to you in this matter. But equal shall be the portion of him that went down to battle and of him that abode at the baggage, and they shall divide alike.

YLT and who doth hearken to you in this thing? for as the portion of him who was brought down into battle, so also [is] the portion of him who is abiding by the vessels — alike they share.'

Drby And who will hearken to you in this matter? For as his share is that goes down to the battle, so shall his share be that abides by the baggage: they shall share alike.

RV And who will hearken unto you in this matter? for as his share is that goeth down to the battle, so shall his share be that tarrieth by the stuff: they shall share alike.

Wbstr For who will hearken to you in this matter? but as his part is that goeth down to the battle, so shall his part be that tarrieth by the goods: they shall part alike.

KJB-1769 For who will hearken unto you in this matter? but as his part is that goeth down to the battle, so shall his part be that tarrieth by the stuff: they shall part alike.
(For who will hearken unto you in this matter? but as his part is that goeth/goes down to the battle, so shall his part be that tarrieth/tarries/waits by the stuff: they shall part alike. )

KJB-1611 For who will hearken vnto you in this matter? But as his part is that goeth downe to the battell, so shall his part bee that tarieth by the stuffe: they shall part alike.
(Modernised spelling is same as from KJB-1769 above, apart from capitalisation)

Bshps For who will hearke vnto you in this matter? But as his parte is that goeth downe and fighteth, so shall his parte be that tarryeth by the stuffe: they shall parte alyke.
(For who will hearke unto you in this matter? But as his part is that goeth/goes down and fightth/fights, so shall his part be that tarrieth/tarries/waits by the stuff: they shall part alyke.)

Gnva For who will obey you in this matter? but as his part is that goeth downe to the battel, so shall his part be, that tarieth by the stuffe: they shall part alike.
(For who will obey you in this matter? but as his part is that goeth/goes down to the battle, so shall his part be, that tarrieth/tarries/waits by the stuff: they shall part alike. )

Cvdl Who shulde cosente vnto you herin? like as the porcion is of them that wente downe to the battayll, so shal ye porcion be of them also that a bode wt the stuffe, & shalbe deuyded a lyke.
(Who should cosente unto you herin? like as the portion is of them that went down to the battle, so shall ye/you_all portion be of them also that a bode with the stuff, and shall be divided a like.)

Wycl nether ony man schal here vs on this word. For euene part schal be of him that goith doun to batel, and of hym that dwellith at the fardelis; and in lijk maner thei schulen departe.
(nether any man shall here us on this word. For even part shall be of him that goeth/goes down to battle, and of him that dwells at the fardelis; and in like manner they should departe.)

Luth Wer sollte euch darinnen gehorchen? Wie das Teil derjenigen, die in Streit hinabgezogen sind, so soll auch sein das Teil derjenigen, die bei dem Geräte geblieben sind, und soll gleich geteilet werden.
(Who sollte you darinnen gehorchen? How the Teil deryenigen, the in battle hinabgezogen are, so should also his the Teil deryenigen, the at to_him Geräte geblieben are, and should gleich geteilet become.)

ClVg nec audiet vos quisquam super sermone hoc: æqua enim pars erit descendentis ad prælium, et remanentis ad sarcinas, et similiter divident.
(nec audiet you quisquam over sermone hoc: æqua because pars will_be descendentis to battle, and remanentis to sarcinas, and likewise divident. )

UTN uW Translation Notes:

Note 1 topic: figures-of-speech / rquestion

(Occurrence 0) Who will listen to you in this matter?

(Some words not found in UHB: and,who listen to/for=you_all to=the_word/thing/matter the=this that/for/because/then/when as,share the,goes_down in/on/at/with,battle and,as,share the,stays on/upon/above/on_account_of//he/it_went_in the=vessels alike share )

This rhetorical question can be translated as a statement: Alternate translation: “No one will listen to you in this matter.”

Note 2 topic: figures-of-speech / abstractnouns

(Occurrence 0) as the share is for anyone who goes

If your language does not use an abstract noun for the idea behind the word share, you can express the same idea with a verbal form. Alternate translation: “as what belongs to anyone who goes”

(Occurrence 0) anyone who goes into battle

the warriors who actually fought the enemy in war

(Occurrence 0) will share and share alike

Alternate translation: “will make sure that all receive the same amount”

(Occurrence 0) anyone who waits by the baggage

the people who supported the warriors by managing and guarding their supplies

(Occurrence 0) baggage

belongings that the soldiers left behind when they went into battle

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David Strengthens Southern Judah

1 Samuel 27-30

The Bible makes it clear that David was specially chosen and raised up by God to be Israel’s next king (1 Samuel 16:1-13), but Scripture also makes it clear that David’s rise to power came about through several shrewd maneuvers on his part. Among these shrewd maneuvers were David’s clandestine attacks on hostile peoples to the south of Judah and his distribution of Amalekite plunder among the towns of southern Judah. These actions by David strengthened southern Judah against their enemies and no doubt cemented Judah’s loyalty to him as a champion for their well-being. It should be noted that the Bible affirms King Saul’s effectiveness at attacking Israel’s enemies (1 Samuel 14:47-52), especially the Philistines, but various character flaws and bad choices by Saul led to God’s selection of David as the one who would replace Saul as king (1 Samuel 13:1-23; 15:1-35). Because of this, Saul grew jealous of David and sought to kill him, forcing David to seek refuge among various towns throughout Judah and even in Philistia (1 Samuel 16-27). After seeking asylum in Gath for a time, David asked King Achish if he could move his family outside of the city, and Achish gave him the border town of Ziklag. Apparently Achish still tried to keep tabs on David’s activities, however, periodically asking him where he had recently raided. David would answer that he had been raiding the Negev of Judah, the Negev of the Jerahmeelites (see 1 Chronicles 2:42), or the Negev of the Kenites (Judges 1:16; see “Saul Attacks the Amalekites” map), which were inhabited by people loyal to Israel. In reality, however, David had been raiding the Amalekites (longtime enemies of Israel; see Genesis 14:7; Exodus 17; Numbers 13:29; 14:45; Deuteronomy 25:17-19), the Geshurites, and the Girzites. These peoples lived to the south of Israel’s territory and along the Way to Shur leading to Egypt. Soon after this King Achish mustered his men at Aphek to head to battle against the Israelites in the Jezreel Valley further north. As they set off for battle and the other Philistine rulers realized David and his men were accompanying them, the rulers protested and insisted that David would turn on them in battle. So Achish sent David home and continued on to Jezreel. When David and his men arrived at Ziklag, they found that Amalekites had burned the town and carried off their wives and children. David and his men set out to attack the Amalekites and recover their families. When they reached the Besor Brook, two hundred of the men were too exhausted to go on and stayed with the other equipment while the remaining four hundred men continued toward Amalek. Along the way, David’s men found an abandoned Egyptian slave of the Amalekites who had participated in the attack on Ziklag and on other locations in southern Judah. The man led David’s men to the Amalekite camp, and then they attacked the Amalekites and retrieved all the captives and plunder that had been taken. Only four hundred Amalekites were able to escape, fleeing on camels. David’s men then rejoined their fellow warriors at the Besor Brook and returned to Ziklag. David sent some of the plunder to the leaders of Ziklag as well as to other towns where David had roamed during the time when he was fleeing from Saul. Many of these towns were located in territory formerly inhabited by Amalekites (Numbers 13:29; 14:25, 43-45; Judges 1:16; see also Judges 12:15) and were likely among those attacked by the Amalekites and other hostile peoples to the south. After this, the Amalekites are only mentioned again in Scripture to note that David killed an Amalekite who himself had killed Saul (to fulfill what Saul requested of him), to note that Amalekite plunder was among the treasures that David dedicated to the Temple of the Lord (2 Samuel 8:9-12), and to recount how in the days of Hezekiah some Simeonites went to Mount Seir and destroyed the remnant of Amalekites that had survived (1 Chronicles 4:42-43).

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