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OET interlinear PROV 29:9

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Hebrew word order

    1. Hebrew word
    2. Hebrew lemma
    3. OET-LV words
    4. OET-RV words
    5. Strongs
    6. Role/Morphology
    7. Gloss
    8. CAPS codes
    9. OET tags
    10. OET word #
    1. אִישׁ
    2. 397671
    3. A person
    4. -
    5. 376
    6. S-Ncmsa
    7. a_person
    8. S
    9. Y-700
    10. 277516
    2. 397672
    3. -
    4. -
    6. -x-maqqef
    8. -
    9. -
    10. 277517
    1. חָכָם
    2. 397673
    3. wise
    4. -
    5. 2450
    6. S-Aamsa
    7. wise
    8. -
    9. Y-700
    10. 277518
    1. נִשְׁפָּט
    2. 397674
    3. +is entering into judgement
    4. -
    5. 8199
    6. V-VNrmsa
    7. [is]_entering_into_judgment
    8. -
    9. Y-700
    10. 277519
    1. אֶת
    2. 397675
    3. with
    4. -
    5. 854
    6. S-R
    7. with
    8. -
    9. Y-700
    10. 277520
    2. 397676
    3. -
    4. -
    6. -x-maqqef
    8. -
    9. -
    10. 277521
    1. אִישׁ
    2. 397677
    3. a person
    4. -
    5. 376
    6. S-Ncmsa
    7. a_person
    8. -
    9. Y-700
    10. 277522
    1. אֱוִיל
    2. 397678
    3. a fool
    4. -
    5. 191
    6. S-Aamsa
    7. a_fool
    8. -
    9. Y-700
    10. 277523
    1. וְ,רָגַז
    2. 397679,397680
    3. and he rages
    4. but
    5. 7264
    6. SV-C,Vqq3ms
    7. and,he_rages
    8. -
    9. Y-700
    10. 277524
    1. וְ,שָׂחַק
    2. 397681,397682
    3. and he laughs
    4. ridicule
    5. 7832
    6. SV-C,Vqq3ms
    7. and,he_laughs
    8. -
    9. Y-700
    10. 277525
    1. וְ,אֵין
    2. 397683,397684
    3. and there +is not
    4. there'll
    5. 369
    6. SP-C,Tn
    7. and,there_[is]_not
    8. -
    9. Y-700
    10. 277526
    1. נָחַת
    2. 397685
    3. quietness
    4. -
    6. S-Ncfsa
    7. quietness
    8. -
    9. Y-700
    10. 277527
    2. 397686
    3. -
    4. -
    6. -x-sof-pasuq
    8. -
    9. -
    10. 277528

OET (OET-LV) A_person wise is_entering_into_judgement with a_person a_fool and_he_rages and_he_laughs and_there_is_not quietness.

OET (OET-RV) If a wise person takes a fool to court,
 ⇔ then there’ll be rage and ridicule, but no resolution.

SIL Open Translator’s Notes:

Section 25:1–29:27: This is Hezekiah’s collection of Solomon’s proverbs

This section is the second collection of Solomon’s proverbs. These proverbs were organized and copied by men who served King Hezekiah. Most scholars divide this section into two groups. These groups differ in several ways.

The first group (chapters 25–27) has many more comparisons and admonitions. In Hebrew, most of these comparisons are metaphors in which one or more illustrations precede the topic. Some English versions change the order so that the topic precedes the illustration(s). You should follow the order that expresses the meaning naturally and effectively in your language.

In the first group, many proverbs are one verse long. As with the individual proverbs in the main collection of Solomon’s proverbs (Section 10:1–22:16), they are not related to the proverbs around them. Other proverbs in this group are two or more verses long. Still others are one-verse proverbs that are closely related in theme. Proverbs in all three categories will be marked as separate paragraphs.

The second group (chapters 28–29) has more contrastive proverbs. The proverbs in this group are each one verse long. They will not be marked as separate paragraphs.

Some other headings for this section are:

More Proverbs of Solomon (NIV)

Proverbs of Solomon Collected by Hezekiah (NET)

These are also wise things that Solomon said

29:9

This proverb is about a lawsuit that a wise man brings against a fool. Due to the fool’s angry and insolent response, a peaceful settlement is not possible.

9aIf a wise man goes to court with a fool,

9bthere will be raving and laughing with no resolution.

29:9a

If a wise man goes to court with a fool,

If a wise man goes to court with a fool: In Hebrew, this line is a statement: “A wise man goes to court….” The word If does not occur. If it is more natural in your language to translate this line as a statement, you may do so.

The Hebrew word that the BSB translates as goes to court is literally “goes to judgment.”BART, Hubbard (p. 450). Scholars interpret this word in two ways:

  1. It refers to a legal argument or lawsuit. For example:

    When an intelligent person brings a lawsuit against a fool (GNT) (BSB, CEV, GW, NCV, NET, NIV, NJPS, NLT, NRSV, REB, GNT)

  2. It refers to an argument between individuals. For example:

    If a wise man has an argument with a fool (ESV) (ESV, NAB, NASB, NJB, RSV)The Notes have listed any versions that do not specify “court” or “lawsuit” under interpretation (2). But it is quite possible that the NASB rendering “has a controversy” and the NAB “disputes” both refer to legal controversies/disputes.

It is recommended that you follow interpretation (1), along with most versions and scholars. The Hebrew word that is used here refers consistently to judgment, justice, and legal cases, not to personal arguments.Waltke (p. 437), Hubbard (p. 450), McKane (p. 636), Ross (p. 1113), Garrett (p. 230), and Toy (p. 509) are among the scholars who support interpretation (1). Cohen (p. 194), Longman (p. 504), and Fox (p. 837) favor the interpretation of a debate or argument. Fox cites four passages that presumably refer to a “private debate.” All refer to a legal or covenant judgment between a prophet, the LORD, and Israel.

fool: This Hebrew word for fool refers to someone who does stupid and wrong things because of his evil character. Here it also implies a person who is insolent. See fool 1 in the Glossary.

29:9a–b

(combined/reordered)

29:9b

there will be raving and laughing with no resolution.

there will be raving and laughing: In Hebrew, this line begins with “he,” that is, “he rages and laughs.” Scholars interpret the word “he” in two ways:

  1. It refers to the fool. For example:

    the fool only rages and laughs (ESV) (CEV, ESV, NASB, NCV, NET, NIV, NJPS, NLT, NRSV, GNT)

  2. It refers to the wise man. For example:

    he may rage or laugh but can have no peace (NAB) (NAB, NJB)

Some versions, such as the BSB, are ambiguous. It is recommended that you follow interpretation (1), along with most versions and scholars. The LXX follows this interpretation. Anger and scoffing do not fit the description of a wise man elsewhere in Proverbs.Waltke (p. 437), Toy (p. 509).

raving and laughing: In Hebrew, the word raving means here that the fool talks angrily and excitedly against the wise man. The word laughing often refers to ordinary laughter, but here it probably refers to laughing in a mocking way.Hubbard (p. 450), Whybray (p. 400), UBS (p. 608). Some other ways to translate this phrase are:

there is ranting and ridicule (NJPS)

the fool only laughs and becomes loud and abusive (GNT)

with no resolution: There are two ways to interpret this clause:

  1. It means that there will be no satisfactory, peaceful, or proper conclusion to the lawsuit. For example:

    but no satisfaction (NJPS) (BSB, CEV, NAB, NASB, NCV, NET, NIV, NJB, NJPS, NLT, NRSV)The NAB, NCV, NET, and NIV all have the phrase “no quiet.” See the NET footnote (c), which takes “no quiet” to mean “no rest,” and understands the proverb to say that “there will be no possibility of settling the matter in a calm way.” The Notes have assumed that the other versions follow the same reasoning.

  2. It means that there will be no quiet. The fool will just keep talking angrily and laughing. For example:

    and there is no quiet (ESV) (ESV, GW, RSV, REB)

It is recommended that you follow interpretation (1), along with most scholars. It may be true that the fool will not stop talking, but in the context of a lawsuit, a peaceful end to the legal dispute is more relevant. Some other ways to translate this clause are:

and the lawsuit will not have a proper ending

and they will leave the court without a satisfactory/peaceful result

uW Translation Notes:

Note 1 topic: figures-of-speech / genericnoun

אִֽישׁ־חָכָ֗ם & אֶת־אִ֣ישׁ אֱוִ֑יל וְ⁠רָגַ֥ז

(a)_man wise & DOM (a)_man fool and,he_rages

A wise man, a foolish man, and he represent types of people in general, not specific people. If it would be helpful in your language, you could use more natural expressions. See how you translated A wise man in [16:14](../16/14.md). Alternate translation: “Any wise person … with any foolish person, but that foolish person trembles”

Note 2 topic: figures-of-speech / explicit

נִ֭שְׁפָּט

goes_to_court

Here, goes to judgment refers to starting a legal dispute with someone. If it would be helpful in your language, you could state this explicitly. Alternate translation: “goes to court” or “begins a lawsuit”

Note 3 topic: figures-of-speech / explicit

וְ⁠רָגַ֥ז

and,he_rages

Here, trembles refers to the foolish person gesturing violently because he is angry. If it would be helpful in your language, you could state this explicitly. Alternate translation: “but he gestures violently”

Note 4 topic: figures-of-speech / explicit

וְ֝⁠שָׂחַ֗ק

and,he_laughs

Here, laughs refers to laughing in a mocking manner, not joyful laughter. If it would be helpful in your language, you could state this explicitly. Alternate translation: “and laughs mockingly”

Note 5 topic: figures-of-speech / explicit

וְ⁠אֵ֣ין נָֽחַת

and,there_[is]_not relief

This could mean: (1) there will be no resolution to the judgment. Alternate translation: “and they will not be able to settle the problem” (2) the foolish person will not be quiet. Alternate translation: “and will not stop doing so”

OET-LV English word order (‘Reverse’ interlinear)

    1. OET-LV words
    2. OET-RV words
    3. Strongs
    4. Hebrew word
    5. Hebrew lemma
    6. Role/Morphology
    7. Gloss
    8. CAPS codes
    9. OET tags
    10. OET word #
    1. A person
    2. -
    3. 266
    5. 397671
    6. S-Ncmsa
    8. S
    9. Y-700
    10. 277516
    1. wise
    2. -
    3. 2548
    5. 397673
    6. S-Aamsa
    8. -
    9. Y-700
    10. 277518
    1. +is entering into judgement
    2. -
    3. 7860
    5. 397674
    6. V-VNrmsa
    8. -
    9. Y-700
    10. 277519
    1. with
    2. -
    3. 347
    5. 397675
    6. S-R
    8. -
    9. Y-700
    10. 277520
    1. a person
    2. -
    3. 266
    5. 397677
    6. S-Ncmsa
    8. -
    9. Y-700
    10. 277522
    1. a fool
    2. -
    3. 8
    5. 397678
    6. S-Aamsa
    8. -
    9. Y-700
    10. 277523
    1. and he rages
    2. but
    3. 1987,7251
    5. 397679,397680
    6. SV-C,Vqq3ms
    8. -
    9. Y-700
    10. 277524
    1. and he laughs
    2. ridicule
    3. 1987,8085
    5. 397681,397682
    6. SV-C,Vqq3ms
    8. -
    9. Y-700
    10. 277525
    1. and there +is not
    2. there'll
    3. 1987,500
    5. 397683,397684
    6. SP-C,Tn
    8. -
    9. Y-700
    10. 277526
    1. quietness
    2. -
    3. 5085
    5. 397685
    6. S-Ncfsa
    8. -
    9. Y-700
    10. 277527

OET (OET-LV) A_person wise is_entering_into_judgement with a_person a_fool and_he_rages and_he_laughs and_there_is_not quietness.

OET (OET-RV) If a wise person takes a fool to court,
 ⇔ then there’ll be rage and ridicule, but no resolution.

Note: The OET-RV is still only a first draft, and so far only a few words have been (mostly automatically) matched to the Hebrew or Greek words that they’re translated from.

Acknowledgements: The Hebrew text, lemmas, and morphology are all thanks to the OSHB and some of the glosses are from Macula Hebrew.OET logo mark

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