LUKE 22:24 Parallel Verse View

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Text critical issues=small word differences Clarity of original=clear Importance to us=normal (All still tentative.)

Key: khaki:verbs, light-green:nominative/subject, pink:genitive/possessor, cyan:dative/indirect object.
Note: Automatic aligning of the OET-RV to the LV is done by some temporary software, hence the RV alignments are incomplete (and may occasionally be wrong).

ULT Then a quarrel also happened among them about which of them seems to be greater.

UST After that, they began to argue among themselves about which one of them they should think was the most important person.

BSB A dispute also arose among [the disciples] [as to] which of them should be considered [the] greatest.

BLB And there was also a dispute among them which of them is thought to be the greatest.

AICNT There also arose a dispute among them; {as to which of them was considered to be greatest}.[fn]

22:24, as to which of them was considered to be greatest: Some manuscripts read “who might be greater.” D(05) Latin(a)

OEB And a dispute arose among them as to which of them was to be regarded as the greatest.

WEBBE A dispute also arose amongst them, which of them was considered to be greatest.

WMBB (Same as above)

NET A dispute also started among them over which of them was to be regarded as the greatest.

LSV And there happened also a strife among them—who of them is accounted to be greater.

FBV At the same time they also got into a quarrel about which of them was the most important.

TCNT A dispute also arose among them as to which of them was considered to be greater.

T4T The apostles began to argue among themselves, saying, “Which one of us will be the greatest when Jesus becomes king?”

LEB ¶ And a dispute also occurred among them as to which of them was recognized as being greatest.

BBE And there was an argument among them about which of them was the greatest.

Moff A quarrel also rose among them as to which of them could be considered the greatest.

Wymth There arose also a dispute among them which of them should be regarded as greatest.

ASV And there arose also a contention among them, which of them was accounted to be greatest.

DRA And there was also a strife amongst them, which of them should seem to be the greater.

YLT And there happened also a strife among them — who of them is accounted to be greater.

Drby And there was also a strife among them which of them should be held to be [the] greatest.

RV And there arose also a contention among them, which of them is accounted to be greatest.

SLT And a love of strife was in them, which of them thinks to be the greater.

Wbstr And there was also a strife among them, which of them should be accounted the greatest.

KJB-1769 ¶ And there was also a strife among them, which of them should be accounted the greatest.

KJB-1611 ¶ And there was also a strife among them, which of them should bee accompted the greatest.
(¶ And there was also a strife among them, which of them should be accompted the greatest.)

Bshps And there was a stryfe among the, which of them shoulde seeme to be the greatest.
(And there was a strife among them, which of them should seem to be the greatest.)

Gnva And there arose also a strife among them, which of them should seeme to be ye greatest.
(And there arose also a strife among them, which of them should seem to be ye/you_all greatest. )

Cvdl There rose a strife also amoge the, which of them shulde be take for the greatest.
(There rose a strife also among them, which of them should be take for the greatest.)

TNT And ther was a stryfe amonge the which of them shuld be taken for the greatest.
(And there was a strife among the which of them should be taken for the greatest. )

Wycl And strijf was maad among hem, which of hem schulde be seyn to be grettest.
(And strife was made among hem, which of hem should be seen to be greatest.)

Luth Es erhub sich auch ein Zank unter ihnen, welcher unter ihnen sollte für den Größten gehalten werden.
(It raised itself/yourself/themselves also a quarrel(n) under to_them, which under to_them should for/in_favour_of the Größten held become.)

ClVg Facta est autem et contentio inter eos, quis eorum videretur esse major.[fn]
(Done it_is however and contentio between them, who/any their it_would_seem to_be major/greater. )

22.24 Facta est, etc. BEDA. Causa contentionis nobis incognita, sed non est incredibile, etc., usque ad quid spiritualis magister jusserit videamus. AMBR. Caveamus ergo impendio, etc., usque ad ut non de prælatione jactantia sit, sed de humilitate contentio.

22.24 Done it_is, etc. BEDA. Causa contentionis us incognita, but not/no it_is incredibile, etc., until to what spiritual teacher yusserit let's_see. AMBR. Caveamus therefore impendio, etc., until to as not/no from/about prelatesone they_boastia be, but from/about humility contentio.

UGNT ἐγένετο δὲ καὶ φιλονικία ἐν αὐτοῖς, τὸ τίς αὐτῶν δοκεῖ εἶναι μείζων.
(egeneto de kai filonikia en autois, to tis autōn dokei einai meizōn.)

SBL-GNT Ἐγένετο δὲ καὶ φιλονεικία ἐν αὐτοῖς, τὸ τίς αὐτῶν δοκεῖ εἶναι μείζων.
(Egeneto de kai filoneikia en autois, to tis autōn dokei einai meizōn.)

RP-GNT Ἐγένετο δὲ καὶ φιλονεικία ἐν αὐτοῖς τὸ τίς αὐτῶν δοκεῖ εἶναι μείζων.
(Egeneto de kai filoneikia en autois to tis autōn dokei einai meizōn.)

TC-GNT Ἐγένετο δὲ καὶ [fn]φιλονεικία ἐν αὐτοῖς τὸ τίς αὐτῶν δοκεῖ εἶναι μείζων.
(Egeneto de kai filoneikia en autois to tis autōn dokei einai meizōn. )

22:24 φιλονεικια ¦ φιλονικια TH

Key for above GNTs: yellow:punctuation differs, red:words differ (from our SR-GNT base).

SOTN SIL Open Translator’s Notes:

Section 22:24–30: Jesus taught his apostles about greatness

In this section Jesus’ apostles began to argue about which of them was the greatest. Because of this argument, Jesus taught them that leaders among his disciples should be different from other leaders who are not his disciples. His disciples should be servants and not harsh, arrogant leaders. This instruction applies not only to Jesus’ twelve apostles but to everyone who becomes a leader among Jesus’ other followers.

The apostles had a similar argument in 9:46 and Mark 9:34. In 9:46 this argument occurred just after Jesus had predicted in 9:44 that he would be betrayed. The similar argument here in Section 22:24–30 is also mentioned immediately after Jesus said that he would be betrayed.

Some examples of heading for this section are:

Jesus again teaches humility (JBP)

The Argument about Greatness (GNT)

Jesus taught that the one who serves others is the greatest among them

Some English versions, such as the NIV, do not have a section heading here. You may divide the sections in the way that is most helpful for the people in your area.

22:24a

A dispute also arose among the disciples

¶ It also happened that the apostles began to argue
¶ There was also an argument among the twelve apostles
¶ And the disciples also quarreled, asking each other,

A dispute also arose among the disciples: The Greek phrase that the BSB translates as A dispute also arose is more literally “And a dispute also happened.” In this context it introduces a topic that the apostles argued about. The phrase does not necessarily indicate that this argument happened immediately after their discussion in 22:23.Arndt (p. 442) indicates that Luke’s wording “lets the point of time when the scene occurred remain altogether indefinite.” He also says (pp. 441–442) that Luke “may not follow the actual sequence of events in this report. One is inclined to think that this unworthy quarrel arose at the very beginning, when seats had to be chosen at the supper, and there apparently was an endeavor on the part of some or all to obtain the most honorable places, that is, those next to Jesus. The foot washing which Jesus undertook to teach the lesson of humility…and which apparently fell early at the supper would confirm this construction of the situation.” However, Luke probably placed this argument immediately after the heart-rending prediction of betrayal to show that the apostles were still very far from understanding him and the sacrificial death he was about to die for them. Other ways to introduce this argument are:

The apostles also began to argue (NCV)

And there was also a strife among them (KJV)

A dispute also started among them (NET)

Some English versions do not translate the word also. For example:

An argument broke out among the disciples (GNT)

Introduce the argument in a natural way in your language.

22:24b

as to which of them would be considered the greatest.

about which of them should be considered the greatest.
about which of them had greater status/rank than all the others.
“Who among us deserves the place/position of honor?”

as to which of them would be considered the greatest: In Greek, this phrase is more literally “[about] who of them seems to be greatest.” It indicates that the apostles argued about which of them seemed to be greater than all the rest of the apostles. Another way to translate this is:

concerning which of them seemed to be greater than the others

In some languages it may be necessary to make this argument into a direct quotation. For example:

about the question, “Who among us should be considered the greatest?”

would be considered the greatest: The Greek verb that the BSB translates as would be considered is active. It means “seems” or “thinks,” and it refers to opinions or thoughts about the apostles. The text does not specify who have those opinions, so many versions translate the verb as passive, as in the BSB. Some ways to translate would be considered the greatest are:

should be thought of as the greatest (GNT)

was to be regarded as the greatest (NRSV)

should have the most honorable position

greatest: The Greek word that the BSB translates as greatest refers here to being superior to other people in importance, rank, or quality.

Some other ways to translate the word greatest are:

the most important (NCV)

highest in rank

General Comment on 22:24a–b

In some languages it may be helpful to translate this verse as two sentences. For example:

Then a quarrel broke out among the disciples. They argued about who should be considered the greatest. (GW)

And they began to argue with each other. They asked each other, “Which of us seems to be the greatest?”

UTN uW Translation Notes:

Note 1 topic: grammar-connect-logic-result

δὲ

(Some words not found in SR-GNT: ἐγένετο Δέ καί φιλονικία ἐν αὐτοῖς τό τίς αὐτῶν δοκεῖ εἶναι μείζων)

Luke may use the word Then simply to indicate that the quarrel about which disciple was the greatest took place after the discussion about which disciple would betray Jesus. However, he could also be using the word to indicate that the quarrel arose directly from the discussion. Alternate translation: [As a result]

δοκεῖ εἶναι μείζων

˓is˒_supposing to_be ˓the˒_greater

Here Luke uses the present tense in past narration. See how you decided to approach this usage in [7:40](../07/40.md). If it would not be natural to use the present tense in your language, you could use the past tense in your translation. Alternate translation: [appeared to be the greatest one] or [people should consider to be the greatest one]

μείζων

˓the˒_greater

Your language might naturally use the comparative form of the adjective here, greater, to express the issue in terms of which one disciple was greater than all the others. Or your language might naturally use the superlative form, “greatest,” to express the issue in terms of which disciple was the greatest of them all. Alternate translation: [the greatest one]

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Jesus’ Arrest, Trial, Crucifixion, and Burial

Matthew 26-27; Mark 14-15; Luke 22-23; John 13-19

On the Thursday before he was crucified, Jesus had arranged to share the Passover meal with his disciples in an upper room, traditionally thought to be located in the Essene Quarter of Jerusalem. After they finished the meal, they went to the Garden of Gethsemane, where Jesus often met with his disciples. There Judas Iscariot, one of Jesus’ own disciples, betrayed him to soldiers sent from the High Priest, and they took Jesus to the High Priest’s residence. In the morning the leading priests and teachers of the law put Jesus on trial and found him guilty of blasphemy. The council sent Jesus to stand trial for treason before the Roman governor Pontius Pilate, who resided at the Praetorium while in Jerusalem. The Praetorium was likely located at the former residence of Herod the Great, who had died over 30 years earlier. When Pilate learned that Jesus was from Galilee, he sent him to Herod Antipas, who had jurisdiction over Galilee. But when Jesus gave no answer to Herod’s many questions, Herod and his soldiers sent him back to Pilate, who conceded to the people’s demands that Jesus be crucified. Jesus was forced to carry his cross out of the city gate to Golgotha, meaning Skull Hill, referring to what may have been a small unquarried hill in the middle of an old quarry just outside the gate. After Jesus was unable to carry his cross any further, a man named Simon from Cyrene was forced to carry it for him. There at Golgotha they crucified Jesus. After Jesus died, his body was hurriedly taken down before nightfall and placed in a newly cut, rock tomb owned by Joseph of Arimathea, a member of the Jewish high council. This tomb was likely located at the perimeter of the old quarry.

Parallel LUKE 22:24

Section 22:24–30: Jesus taught his apostles about greatness

22:24a

22:24b

General Comment on 22:24a–b

Jesus’ Arrest, Trial, Crucifixion, and Burial