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BI 2Sa 12:30 ©

Text critical issues=none Clarity of original=clearImportance=normal(All still tentative.)

OET (OET-RV)He took the king’s crown off his head (it was gold and weighed around 30kg), and it was placed on his head. A lot of other plunder was also taken from the city.

OET-LVAnd_he/it_took DOM the_crown king_their from_under his/its_head and_weight_its [was]_a_talent of_gold and_stone_of precious and_it_became on the_head of_Dāvid and_plunder the_city he_brought_out much very.

UHBוַ⁠יִּקַּ֣ח אֶת־עֲטֶֽרֶת־מַלְכָּ⁠ם֩ מֵ⁠עַ֨ל רֹאשׁ֜⁠וֹ וּ⁠מִשְׁקָלָ֨⁠הּ כִּכַּ֤ר זָהָב֙ וְ⁠אֶ֣בֶן יְקָרָ֔ה וַ⁠תְּהִ֖י עַל־רֹ֣אשׁ דָּוִ֑ד וּ⁠שְׁלַ֥ל הָ⁠עִ֛יר הוֹצִ֖יא הַרְבֵּ֥ה מְאֹֽד׃
   (va⁠yyiqqaḩ ʼet-ˊₐţeret-malkā⁠m mē⁠ˊal roʼsh⁠ō ū⁠mishqālā⁠h kikkar zāhāⱱ və⁠ʼeⱱen yəqārāh va⁠ttəhiy ˊal-roʼsh dāvid ū⁠shəlal hā⁠ˊir hōʦiyʼ harbēh məʼod.)

Key: khaki:verbs.
Note: Automatic aligning of the OET-RV to the LV is done by some temporary software, hence the OET-RV alignments are incomplete (and may occasionally be wrong).

ULTAnd David took the crown of their king from his head (and its weight was a talent of gold and a precious stone), and it was on the head of David. And the plunder of the city he brought out—very much.

USTThen David took the crown from the head of their king and put it on his own head. It was very heavy; it weighed about thirty-three kilograms, and it had a very valuable stone in it. His soldiers also took many other valuable things from the city.


BSBThen he took the crown from the head of their king.[fn] It weighed a talent of gold [fn] and was set with precious stones, and it was placed on David’s head. And David took a great amount of plunder from the city.


12:30 Or from the head of Milcom. Milcom, also called Molech, was god of the Ammonites; see Leviticus 18:21 and 1 Kings 11:7.

12:30 A talent is approximately 75.4 pounds or 34.2 kilograms of gold.

OEBAnd he took the crown of Milcom from his head; and its weight was about one hundred and forty pounds of gold, and in it was a precious stone; and it was set on David’s head. And he brought away the great amount of spoil that was in the city.

WEBBEHe took the crown of their king from off his head; and its weight was a talent[fn] of gold, and in it were precious stones; and it was set on David’s head. He brought a great quantity of plunder out of the city.


12:30 A talent is about 30 kilograms or 66 pounds or 965 Troy ounces

WMBB (Same as above including footnotes)

NETHe took the crown of their king from his head – it was gold, weighed about seventy-five pounds, and held a precious stone – and it was placed on David’s head. He also took from the city a great deal of plunder.

LSVand he takes the crown of their king from off his head, and its weight [is] a talent of gold, and precious stones, and it is on the head of David; and he has brought out the spoil of the city—very much;

FBVHe took the crown from the head of their king, and it was placed on David's head. It weighed a talent of gold and was decorated with precious stones. David took a large amount of plunder from the town.

T4TThen David took the crown from the head of the king of Rabbah (OR, from the head of Milcom the god of Rabbah) and put it on his own head. It was very heavy; it weighed 75 pounds/34 kg.►, and it had many very valuable stones fastened to it. His soldiers also took many other valuable things from the city.

LEBHe took the crown of their king from his head. (Now its weight was a talent of gold, and there was a precious stone in it and it was put on David’s head.) He brought out the plunder of the city in great abundance.[fn]


?:? Literally “very many”

BBEAnd he took the crown of Milcom from his head; the weight of it was a talent of gold, and in it were stones of great price; and it was put on David's head. And he took a great store of goods from the town.

MoffNo Moff 2SA book available

JPSAnd he took the crown of Malcam from off his head; and the weight thereof was a talent of gold, and in it were precious stones; and it was set on David's head. And he brought forth the spoil of the city, exceeding much.

ASVAnd he took the crown of their king from off his head; and the weight thereof was a talent of gold, and in it were precious stones; and it was set on David’s head. And he brought forth the spoil of the city, exceeding much.

DRAAnd he took the crown of their king from his head, the weight of which was a talent of gold, set with most precious stones, and it was put upon David’s head, and the spoils of the city which were very great he carried away.

YLTand he taketh the crown of their king from off his head, and its weight [is] a talent of gold, and precious stones, and it is on the head of David; and the spoil of the city he hath brought out, very much;

DrbyAnd he took the crown of their king from off his head, the weight of which was a talent of gold with [the] precious stones; and it was [set] on David's head; and he brought forth the spoil of the city in great abundance.

RVAnd he took the crown of their king from off his head; and the weight thereof was a talent of gold, and in it were precious stones; and it was set on David’s head. And he brought forth the spoil of the city, exceeding much.

WbstrAnd he took their king's crown from off his head, the weight of which was a talent of gold with the precious stones: and it was set on David's head. And he brought forth the spoil of the city in great abundance.

KJB-1769And he took their king’s crown from off his head, the weight whereof was a talent of gold with the precious stones: and it was set on David’s head. And he brought forth the spoil of the city in great abundance.[fn]


12.30 in great…: Heb. very great

KJB-1611[fn][fn]And he tooke their kings crowne from off his head (the weight whereof was a talent of gold, with the precious stones) and it was set on Dauids head, and he brought forth the spoile of the citie in great abundance.
   (Modernised spelling is same as from KJB-1769 above, apart from capitalisation and punctuation and footnotes)


12:30 1. Chron. 20.2.

12:30 Hebr. very great.

BshpsAnd he toke their kinges crowne from of his head (which wayed a talent of golde, & in it were precious stones) and it was set on Dauids head, and he brought away the spoyle of the citie, in exceeding great abundaunce.
   (And he took their kings crown from of his head (which wayed a talent of gold, and in it were precious stones) and it was set on Davids head, and he brought away the spoil of the city, in exceeding great abundance.)

GnvaAnd he tooke their Kings crowne from his head, (which weighed a talent of golde, with precious stones) and it was set on Dauids head: and he brought away the spoyle of the citie in exceeding great abundance.
   (And he took their Kings crown from his head, (which weighed a talent of gold, with precious stones) and it was set on Davids head: and he brought away the spoil of the city in exceeding great abundance. )

Cvdland toke their kynges crowne fro his heade (which in weight had a talente of golde, and precious stones) and was set vpon Dauids heade, and very moch spoyle caried he out of the cite.
   (and took their kings crown from his head (which in weight had a talente of gold, and precious stones) and was set upon Davids heade, and very much spoil carried he out of the city.)

WycAnd he took the diademe of the kyng of hem fro his heed, bi weiyte a talent of gold, hauynge preciouseste peerlis; and it was put on the heed of Dauid, `that is, aftir that it was weldid and purgid bi fier; but also Dauid bar awey ful myche prey of the citee.
   (And he took the diademe of the king of them from his heed, by weiyte a talent of gold, having preciouseste peerlis; and it was put on the head of David, `that is, after that it was weldid and purgid by fire; but also David bar away full much prey of the city.)

LuthUnd nahm die Krone ihres Königs von seinem Haupt, die am Gewicht einen Zentner Goldes hatte und Edelgesteine, und ward David auf sein Haupt gesetzt; und führete aus der Stadt sehr viel Raubs.
   (And took the crown ihres kings from his head, the in/at/on_the Gewicht a Zentner Goldes had and Edelgesteine, and what/which David on his head sett; and führete out_of the/of_the city very many plunders.)

ClVgEt tulit diadema regis eorum de capite ejus, pondo auri talentum, habens gemmas pretiosissimas: et impositum est super caput David. Sed et prædam civitatis asportavit multam valde:[fn]
   (And took diadema king their about capite his, pondo auri talentum, habens gemmas pretiosissimas: and impositum it_is over caput David. But and prædam of_the_city asportavit multam valde: )


12.30 Et tulit, etc. RAB. In Paralipomenon ita legitur: Tulit David coronam Melchon de capite ejus, et invenit in ea auri pondo talentum, et pretiosissimas gemmas. Fecitque sibi inde diadema I Par. 20.. Non est enim nomen proprium Melchon, sed interpretatur rex eorum. Melchon, ut volunt Hæbræi, idolum est Ammonitarum, cujus diadematis aurum et gemmas David dicitur conflasse et purgasse secundum legem, et fecisse sibi diadema.


12.30 And tulit, etc. RAB. In Paralipomenon ita legitur: Tulit David coronam Melchon about capite his, and invenit in ea auri pondo talentum, and pretiosissimas gemmas. Fecitque sibi inde diadema I Par. 20.. Non it_is because nomen proprium Melchon, but interpretatur rex their. Melchon, as volunt Hæbræi, idolum it_is Ammonitarum, cuyus diadematis aurum and gemmas David it_is_said conflasse and purgasse after/second legem, and fecisse sibi diadema.

BrTrAnd he took the crown of [fn]Molchom their king from off his head, and the weight of it was a talent of gold, with precious stones, and it was upon the head of David; and he carried forth very much spoil of the city.


12:30 Alex. rightly omits Molchom. 'Their king' in Heb.

BrLXXΚαὶ ἔλαβε τὸν στέφανον Μολχὸμ τοῦ βασιλέως αὐτῶν ἀπὸ τῆς κεφαλῆς αὐτοῦ, καὶ ὁ σταθμὸς αὐτοῦ τάλαντον χρυσίου, καὶ λίθου τιμίου, καὶ ἦν ἐπὶ τῆς κεφαλῆς Δαυὶδ, καὶ σκῦλα τῆς πόλεως ἐξήνεγκε πολλὰ σφόδρα.
   (Kai elabe ton stefanon Molⱪom tou basileōs autōn apo taʸs kefalaʸs autou, kai ho stathmos autou talanton ⱪrusiou, kai lithou timiou, kai aʸn epi taʸs kefalaʸs Dawid, kai skula taʸs poleōs exaʸnegke polla sfodra. )


TSNTyndale Study Notes:

12:30 David removed the crown: David had, in effect, become the Ammonites’ king.
• a vast amount of plunder: Instructions against taking such booty during a conquest (Deut 7:25-26) show how dangerous David’s actions were. Such wealth might seduce the king’s heart away from God.


UTNuW Translation Notes:

Note 1 topic: translate-bweight

(Occurrence 0) a talent

(Some words not found in UHB: and=he/it_took DOM crown king,their from=under his/its=head and,weight,its talent gold and=stone_of precious and=it_became on/upon/above/on_account_of//he/it_went_in head Dāvid's and,plunder the=city brought_out a_~_greatamount very )

This may be written in modern weights. Alternate translation: “about 33 kilograms”

(Occurrence 0) a precious stone

(Some words not found in UHB: and=he/it_took DOM crown king,their from=under his/its=head and,weight,its talent gold and=stone_of precious and=it_became on/upon/above/on_account_of//he/it_went_in head Dāvid's and,plunder the=city brought_out a_~_greatamount very )

a rare gemstone such as a diamond, ruby, sapphire, emerald, or opal

Note 2 topic: figures-of-speech / activepassive

(Occurrence 0) The crown was placed on David’s own head

(Some words not found in UHB: and=he/it_took DOM crown king,their from=under his/its=head and,weight,its talent gold and=stone_of precious and=it_became on/upon/above/on_account_of//he/it_went_in head Dāvid's and,plunder the=city brought_out a_~_greatamount very )

If your language does not use the passive form in this way, you can state this in active form or in another way that is natural in your language. Alternate translation: “They placed the crown on David’s own head”

Note 3 topic: figures-of-speech / metonymy

(Occurrence 0) he brought out

(Some words not found in UHB: and=he/it_took DOM crown king,their from=under his/its=head and,weight,its talent gold and=stone_of precious and=it_became on/upon/above/on_account_of//he/it_went_in head Dāvid's and,plunder the=city brought_out a_~_greatamount very )

Here the author speaks of David when he is actually referring to David’s soldiers. Alternate translation: “they brought out”

(Occurrence 0) plunder

(Some words not found in UHB: and=he/it_took DOM crown king,their from=under his/its=head and,weight,its talent gold and=stone_of precious and=it_became on/upon/above/on_account_of//he/it_went_in head Dāvid's and,plunder the=city brought_out a_~_greatamount very )

valuable things taken from a defeated enemy

(Occurrence 0) large quantities

(Some words not found in UHB: and=he/it_took DOM crown king,their from=under his/its=head and,weight,its talent gold and=stone_of precious and=it_became on/upon/above/on_account_of//he/it_went_in head Dāvid's and,plunder the=city brought_out a_~_greatamount very )

Alternate translation: “large amounts”


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David Defeats the Ammonites and the Arameans

2 Samuel 8:1-8; 10:1-19; 12:21-31; 1 Chronicles 18:2-11; 19:1-19; 20:1-3

The accounts of David’s greatest military victories stand like bookends around the record of David’s most grievous sins. Sometime after David brought the Ark of the Covenant into Jerusalem and the Lord promised to establish his dynasty over Israel, David achieved a series of victories over virtually all of Israel’s neighboring nations. These began with David’s capture of Metheg-ammah (likely Gath) and all of Philistia and was followed by his victory over Moab. Then Nahash king of Ammon died, and David sent envoys to express his condolences to Nahash’s son Hanun, who had now become king. Hanun, however, intentionally humiliated David’s envoys, shaving off half their beards and cutting off the bottom half of their garments before sending them back to Israel. When David heard of it, he sent word to his envoys to remain at Jericho until their beards grew back. In the meantime, the Ammonites called upon several Aramean nations to help them fight against Israel, which was likely their original intent for humiliating David’s envoys. Warriors came from Beth-rehob and Zobah, which lay between Israel and Hamath farther north, as well as from Maacah (see “Geshur and Maacah” map) and Tob. The writer of 1 Chronicles also notes that soldiers came from Mesopotamia as well. David sent his commander Joab to fight this coalition at Rabbah. The writer of 1 Chronicles consistently speaks of the battle occurring at Medeba, rather than Rabbah, but the town of Medeba south of Heshbon seems an unlikely location for the battle. Perhaps Rabbah was also referred to at times as Medeba. In any case, Joab and his brother Abishai divided their forces into two groups, with Joab leading the fight against the Arameans to the north and Abishai leading the fight against the Ammonites just outside the gates of Rabbah. As Joab advanced, the Arameans fled, which in turn led the Ammonites to retreat behind the walls of Rabbah. After this Joab (and probably his forces) returned home to Israel. But the Arameans regrouped and added more troops from Aramean nations beyond the Euphrates River. David met them in battle at Helam (likely modern Alma) and won a great victory over them, even killing their commander Shobah (or Shophach). After this the Arameans made peace with Israel. Sometime later David also subjugated the Edomites, who lived to the south of Moab. It was likely sometime after this that David engaged in adultery with the wife of Uriah, one of his own valiant warriors (see “David’s Mighty Men” map), and then he tried to cover up his sin by arranging for Uriah’s death in battle. His sin was later exposed by Nathan the prophet, and David repented. After this Joab returned to Rabbah to finish capturing the city, and when victory was close at hand he called for David to come and finish taking the city. Thus the Ammonites became subject to Israel as well. From all these conquered nations David took many spoils and dedicated them to the Lord’s service, including great amounts of bronze from the towns of Tebah (also called Betah and Tibhath), Berothai, and Cun.

The Battle with the Ammonites and the Arameans

The Battle with the Arameans

Map

David Defeats the Ammonites and the Arameans

2 Samuel 8:1-8; 10:1-19; 12:21-31; 1 Chronicles 18:2-11; 19:1-19; 20:1-3

The accounts of David’s greatest military victories stand like bookends around the record of David’s most grievous sins. Sometime after David brought the Ark of the Covenant into Jerusalem and the Lord promised to establish his dynasty over Israel, David achieved a series of victories over virtually all of Israel’s neighboring nations. These began with David’s capture of Metheg-ammah (likely Gath) and all of Philistia and was followed by his victory over Moab. Then Nahash king of Ammon died, and David sent envoys to express his condolences to Nahash’s son Hanun, who had now become king. Hanun, however, intentionally humiliated David’s envoys, shaving off half their beards and cutting off the bottom half of their garments before sending them back to Israel. When David heard of it, he sent word to his envoys to remain at Jericho until their beards grew back. In the meantime, the Ammonites called upon several Aramean nations to help them fight against Israel, which was likely their original intent for humiliating David’s envoys. Warriors came from Beth-rehob and Zobah, which lay between Israel and Hamath farther north, as well as from Maacah (see “Geshur and Maacah” map) and Tob. The writer of 1 Chronicles also notes that soldiers came from Mesopotamia as well. David sent his commander Joab to fight this coalition at Rabbah. The writer of 1 Chronicles consistently speaks of the battle occurring at Medeba, rather than Rabbah, but the town of Medeba south of Heshbon seems an unlikely location for the battle. Perhaps Rabbah was also referred to at times as Medeba. In any case, Joab and his brother Abishai divided their forces into two groups, with Joab leading the fight against the Arameans to the north and Abishai leading the fight against the Ammonites just outside the gates of Rabbah. As Joab advanced, the Arameans fled, which in turn led the Ammonites to retreat behind the walls of Rabbah. After this Joab (and probably his forces) returned home to Israel. But the Arameans regrouped and added more troops from Aramean nations beyond the Euphrates River. David met them in battle at Helam (likely modern Alma) and won a great victory over them, even killing their commander Shobah (or Shophach). After this the Arameans made peace with Israel. Sometime later David also subjugated the Edomites, who lived to the south of Moab. It was likely sometime after this that David engaged in adultery with the wife of Uriah, one of his own valiant warriors (see “David’s Mighty Men” map), and then he tried to cover up his sin by arranging for Uriah’s death in battle. His sin was later exposed by Nathan the prophet, and David repented. After this Joab returned to Rabbah to finish capturing the city, and when victory was close at hand he called for David to come and finish taking the city. Thus the Ammonites became subject to Israel as well. From all these conquered nations David took many spoils and dedicated them to the Lord’s service, including great amounts of bronze from the towns of Tebah (also called Betah and Tibhath), Berothai, and Cun.

The Battle with the Ammonites and the Arameans

The Battle with the Arameans

BI 2Sa 12:30 ©