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OET (OET-LV) And having_been_asked by the Farisaios_party when the kingdom of_ the _god is_coming, he_answered to_them and said, the kingdom of_ the _god Is_ not _coming with observation,
OET (OET-RV) One time Yeshua was approached by some from the Pharisee party and asked when God’s kingdom is coming, and he answered, “The arrival of God’s kingdom is not some visible thing,
The Greek text does not indicate when Jesus said the words in this section. Scholars believe that he said them during the same time period as the last section. During this time, Jesus was making his final journey to Jerusalem. The Pharisees asked him when the kingdom of God would come. Jesus answered by describing the way the Son of Man, the Messiah, will return to earth. He will return suddenly, and it will be obvious to everyone that he has returned. Jesus compared his return to how suddenly the flood came in the time of Noah and how suddenly Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed in the time of Lot.
Examples of headings for this section are:
Jesus taught about when the Son of Man will come
The coming of the Kingdom of God
Parallel passages are in Matthew 24:17–18, 24:23–28, 24:37–41, and Mark 13:14–16, 13:19–23.
When asked by the Pharisees
¶ One time the Pharisees asked Jesus
¶ One day the Pharisees asked Jesus,
¶ One day some Pharisees asked Jesus,
when the kingdom of God would come,
when the kingdom of God would arrive/begin.
“When will God establish his reign/kingdom?”
“When will God begin to rule/reign over people?”
When asked by the Pharisees: In this section, Luke introduced a new topic. He told about things that Jesus said to people at a different time from the event in 17:11–19. In Greek Luke introduced this new topic with a common conjunction. In some languages it is natural to use a general time phrase such as When in the BSB. Other ways to translate this are:
One day the Pharisees asked Jesus (NLT)
Later, he was asked by the Pharisees (JBP)
In some languages a conjunction or time phrase is not necessary. For example:
Some Pharisees asked Jesus (GNT)
Being asked by the Pharisees (RSV)
Introduce this new topic in a way that is natural in your language.
asked by the Pharisees: This is a passive clause. Here are some ways to translate this:
Translate it as passive. For example:
having been asked by the Pharisees (NIV)
Translate it as active. For example:
the Pharisees asked Jesus (NLT)
Pharisees: The Pharisees were a Jewish religious group or party. It was very important to them to obey all of the Jewish religious laws very carefully and in detail. Here are some ways to translate this word:
Transliterate the word Pharisees according to the sounds of your language and indicate that it refers to people. For example:
Farisi members/people
Parise adherents
Transliterate the word Pharisees and indicate that it refers to a group of people with certain beliefs. For example:
people belonging to the Farise religious sect/group
members/people of the religious group called the Farasi
See also “Pharisee,” sense A, in KBT. You may also want to include an explanation of “Pharisee” in the glossary of your translation.
asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come: Here the Pharisees were asking when God would establish his reign. They referred to the future time when God will rule over people as their king. They expected that he would send the Messiah to conquer their enemies and rule with God’s authority.
This clause is similar to “Your kingdom come” in 11:2. Some ways to translate it are:
the Pharisees asked Jesus when God would establish his reign
the Pharisees asked Jesus when God would begin/come to reign over all people
In some languages it may be more natural to use direct speech here. For example:
…the Pharisees asked Jesus, “When will the Kingdom of God come?” (NLT)
For more information, see kingdom of God, Context 3 in the Glossary.
the kingdom of God: In this context the phrase kingdom of God refers to God’s activity of ruling and caring for his people as their king. It does not refer here to a land or country that he rules over.
Some ways to translate this are:
As a noun. For example:
God’s rule/reign
God’s kingship
God’s chieftaincy
God’s government
As a verbal expression:
the time for God to rule his people
the time for God to care for his people as king
Jesus replied,
Jesus answered,
Jesus said to them,
“The kingdom of God will not come with observable signs.
“The kingdom of God does not come in a way that you(plur) will recognize by watching for it.
“God establishes his reign/rule in a way that you(plur) cannot perceive by what you see/observe.
“You(plur) cannot know the time when God begins to rule/reign over people by watching carefully,
Jesus replied, “The kingdom of God will not come with observable signs…”: There are two ways to interpret the Greek clause that the BSB translates as The kingdom of God will not come with observable signs:
It means that people will not be able to observe when God begins to rule people as their king. Here is another way to translate this:
People can’t observe the coming of the kingdom of God. (GW) (NIV, GW, KJV, REB, CEV, NCV, GNT, NJB)
It means that people will not see signs or miracles that will show them that God is beginning to rule people as their king. Here is another way to translate this:
The Kingdom of God can’t be detected by visible signs. (NLT) (BSB, NASB, NET, NLT, ESV)
It is recommended that you follow interpretation (1). The evidence is given in 17:21b: the kingdom of God was already present there (and the Pharisees had not detected it). Some ways to translate this interpretation are:
God’s kingdom is coming, but not in a way that you will be able to see with your eyes. (NCV)
You cannot tell by observation when the kingdom of God comes. (REB)
Note 1 topic: grammar-connect-time-background
ἐπερωτηθεὶς δὲ ὑπὸ τῶν Φαρισαίων πότε ἔρχεται ἡ Βασιλεία τοῦ Θεοῦ
(Some words not found in SR-GNT: ἐπερωτηθείς Δέ ὑπό τῶν Φαρισαίων πότε ἔρχεται ἡ Βασιλεία τοῦ Θεοῦ ἀπεκρίθη αὐτοῖς καί εἶπεν Οὐκ ἔρχεται ἡ Βασιλεία τοῦ Θεοῦ μετά παρατηρήσεως)
Luke uses this phrase to begin relating a new event by introducing background information that will help readers understand what happens next. It may be helpful to make this a separate sentence. Alternate translation: [Now when some Pharisees asked Jesus when the kingdom of God was coming]
Note 2 topic: figures-of-speech / quotations
ἐπερωτηθεὶς δὲ ὑπὸ τῶν Φαρισαίων πότε ἔρχεται ἡ Βασιλεία τοῦ Θεοῦ
(Some words not found in SR-GNT: ἐπερωτηθείς Δέ ὑπό τῶν Φαρισαίων πότε ἔρχεται ἡ Βασιλεία τοῦ Θεοῦ ἀπεκρίθη αὐτοῖς καί εἶπεν Οὐκ ἔρχεται ἡ Βασιλεία τοῦ Θεοῦ μετά παρατηρήσεως)
If it would be helpful in your language, you could present this as a direct quotation rather than as an indirect quotation. Alternate translation: [Now some Pharisees asked Jesus, “When is the kingdom of God coming?”]
Note 3 topic: figures-of-speech / activepassive
ἐπερωτηθεὶς & ὑπὸ τῶν Φαρισαίων
(Some words not found in SR-GNT: ἐπερωτηθείς Δέ ὑπό τῶν Φαρισαίων πότε ἔρχεται ἡ Βασιλεία τοῦ Θεοῦ ἀπεκρίθη αὐτοῖς καί εἶπεν Οὐκ ἔρχεται ἡ Βασιλεία τοῦ Θεοῦ μετά παρατηρήσεως)
If it would be helpful in your language, you could express this with an active form, and you could state who was the recipient of the action. Alternate translation: [some Pharisees asked Jesus]
Note 4 topic: figures-of-speech / abstractnouns
πότε ἔρχεται ἡ Βασιλεία τοῦ Θεοῦ
when ˓is˒_coming the Kingdom ¬the ˱of˲_God
See how you decided to translate the phrase the kingdom of God in [4:43](../04/43.md). If it would be helpful in your language, you could express the idea behind the abstract noun kingdom with a verb such as “rule.” Alternate translation: [when God would begin to rule]
Note 5 topic: figures-of-speech / hendiadys
ἀπεκρίθη αὐτοῖς καὶ εἶπεν
˱he˲_answered ˱to˲_them (Some words not found in SR-GNT: ἐπερωτηθείς Δέ ὑπό τῶν Φαρισαίων πότε ἔρχεται ἡ Βασιλεία τοῦ Θεοῦ ἀπεκρίθη αὐτοῖς καί εἶπεν Οὐκ ἔρχεται ἡ Βασιλεία τοῦ Θεοῦ μετά παρατηρήσεως)
Together the two words answered and said mean that Jesus said what follows in response to the question that the Pharisees asked him. Alternate translation: [he responded]
Note 6 topic: figures-of-speech / metonymy
οὐκ ἔρχεται ἡ Βασιλεία τοῦ Θεοῦ μετὰ παρατηρήσεως
(Some words not found in SR-GNT: ἐπερωτηθείς Δέ ὑπό τῶν Φαρισαίων πότε ἔρχεται ἡ Βασιλεία τοῦ Θεοῦ ἀπεκρίθη αὐτοῖς καί εἶπεν Οὐκ ἔρχεται ἡ Βασιλεία τοῦ Θεοῦ μετά παρατηρήσεως)
Jesus uses the word observation to mean things that people can observe. Alternate translation: [The kingdom of God is not coming with signs that people can observe]
Note 7 topic: figures-of-speech / abstractnouns
οὐκ ἔρχεται ἡ Βασιλεία τοῦ Θεοῦ
(Some words not found in SR-GNT: ἐπερωτηθείς Δέ ὑπό τῶν Φαρισαίων πότε ἔρχεται ἡ Βασιλεία τοῦ Θεοῦ ἀπεκρίθη αὐτοῖς καί εἶπεν Οὐκ ἔρχεται ἡ Βασιλεία τοῦ Θεοῦ μετά παρατηρήσεως)
See how you decided to translate the phrase the kingdom of God in [4:43](../04/43.md). If it would be helpful in your language, you could express the idea behind the abstract noun kingdom with a verb such as “rule.” Alternate translation: [God is not going to begin to rule]
OET (OET-LV) And having_been_asked by the Farisaios_party when the kingdom of_ the _god is_coming, he_answered to_them and said, the kingdom of_ the _god Is_ not _coming with observation,
OET (OET-RV) One time Yeshua was approached by some from the Pharisee party and asked when God’s kingdom is coming, and he answered, “The arrival of God’s kingdom is not some visible thing,
Note: The OET-RV is still only a first draft, and so far only a few words have been (mostly automatically) matched to the Hebrew or Greek words that they’re translated from.
Acknowledgements: The SR Greek text, lemmas, morphology, and VLT gloss are all thanks to the CNTR.