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Parallel 2SA 17:17

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BI 2Sa 17:17 ©

Text critical issues=none Clarity of original=clearImportance=normal(All still tentative.)

OET (OET-RV)Their sons Yonatan and Ahimaats were waiting at Eyn-Rogel where a female servant would come and pass the message onto them, because it wouldn’t be safe for them to be seen entering the city. Then they themselves would go and inform King David.

OET-LVAnd_Yōnātān/(Jonathan) and_ʼAḩīmaˊaʦ [were]_remaining in/on/at/with_En- rogel and_go the_servant_girl and_tell to/for_them and_they they_went and_tell to/for_the_king Dāvid if/because not they_were_able to_seen to_entering the_city_to.

UHBוִ⁠יהוֹנָתָ֨ן וַ⁠אֲחִימַ֜עַץ עֹמְדִ֣ים בְּ⁠עֵין־רֹגֵ֗ל וְ⁠הָלְכָ֤ה הַ⁠שִּׁפְחָה֙ וְ⁠הִגִּ֣ידָה לָ⁠הֶ֔ם וְ⁠הֵם֙ יֵֽלְכ֔וּ וְ⁠הִגִּ֖ידוּ לַ⁠מֶּ֣לֶךְ דָּוִ֑ד כִּ֣י לֹ֥א יוּכְל֛וּ לְ⁠הֵרָא֖וֹת לָ⁠ב֥וֹא הָ⁠עִֽירָ⁠ה׃
   (vi⁠yhōnātān va⁠ʼₐḩīmaˊaʦ ˊomdim bə⁠ˊēyn-rogēl və⁠hāləkāh ha⁠shshifḩāh və⁠higgidāh lā⁠hem və⁠hēm yēlə və⁠higgidū la⁠mmelek dāvid kiy loʼ yūkə lə⁠hērāʼōt lā⁠ⱱōʼ hā⁠ˊirā⁠h.)

Key: khaki:verbs, red:negative.
Note: Automatic aligning of the OET-RV to the LV is done by some temporary software, hence the OET-RV alignments are incomplete (and may occasionally be wrong).

BrLXXΚαὶ Ἰωνάθαν καὶ Ἀχιμάας εἱστήκεισαν ἐν τῇ πηγῇ Ῥωγὴλ, καὶ ἐπορεύθη ἡ παιδίσκη, καὶ ἀνήγγειλεν αὐτοῖς, καὶ αὐτοὶ πορεύονται καὶ ἀναγγέλλουσι τῷ βασιλεῖ Δαυίδ· ὅτι οὐκ ἠδύναντο ὀφθῆναι τοῦ εἰσελθεῖν τἰς τὴν πόλιν.
   (Kai Yōnathan kai Aⱪimaas heistaʸkeisan en taʸ paʸgaʸ Ɽōgaʸl, kai eporeuthaʸ haʸ paidiskaʸ, kai anaʸngeilen autois, kai autoi poreuontai kai anangellousi tōi basilei Dawid; hoti ouk aʸdunanto ofthaʸnai tou eiselthein tis taʸn polin. )

BrTrAnd Jonathan and Achimaas stood by the well of Rogel, and a maid-servant went and reported to them, and they go and tell king David; for they might not be seen to enter into the city.

ULTAnd Jonathan and Ahimaaz were standing in the spring of Rogel, and a female servant would come, and she would inform them, and they themselves would go, and they would inform King David, for they were not able to be seen entering the city.

USTThe priest’s two sons, Jonathan and Ahimaaz, were waiting at the spring at En Rogel, outside Jerusalem. They did not dare to enter the city, because if someone saw them, he would report it to Absalom. While they were at En Rogel, a female servant of the two priests would frequently go to them and report to them what was happening, and then they would go and report it to King David.

BSB  § Now Jonathan and Ahimaaz were staying at En-rogel, where a servant girl would come and pass along information to them. They in turn would go and inform King David, for they dared not be seen entering the city.


OEBNow Jonathan and Ahimaaz were staying at Enrogel; and a maid-servant was to go and bring them news, and they were to go and tell King David, for they must not be seen to come into the city.

WEBBENow Jonathan and Ahimaaz were staying by En Rogel; and a female servant used to go and report to them, and they went and told King David; for they couldn’t risk being seen coming into the city.

WMBB (Same as above)

NETNow Jonathan and Ahimaaz were staying in En Rogel. A female servant would go and inform them, and they would then go and inform King David. It was not advisable for them to be seen going into the city.

LSVAnd Jonathan and Ahimaaz are standing at En-Rogel, and the maidservant has gone and declared [it] to them—and they go and have declared [it] to King David—for they are not able to be seen to go into the city.

FBVJonathan and Ahimaaz were staying at En-rogel because they couldn't be seen entering the city. A servant girl would come and tell them what was happening. Then they would go and let King David know.

T4TThe priest’s two sons, Jonathan and Ahimaaz, were waiting at En-Rogel Spring, outside Jerusalem. They did not dare to enter the city, because if someone saw them, he would report it to Absalom. While they were at En-Rogel, a female servant of the two priests would frequently go to them and report to them what was happening, and then they would go and report it to King David.

LEBNow Jonathan and Ahimaaz were staying at En Rogel, so a servant girl used to go and tell them, then they would go and tell King David, for they were not able to be seen coming to the city.

BBENow Jonathan and Ahimaaz were waiting by En-rogel; and a servant-girl went from time to time and gave them news and they went with the news to King David, for it was not wise for them to let themselves be seen coming into the town.

MoffNo Moff 2SA book available

JPSNow Jonathan and Ahimaaz stayed by En-rogel; and a maid-servant used to go and tell them; and they went and told king David; for they might not be seen to come into the city.

ASVNow Jonathan and Ahimaaz were staying by En-rogel; and a maid-servant used to go and tell them; and they went and told king David: for they might not be seen to come into the city.

DRAAnd Jonathan and Achimaas stayed by the fountain Rogel: and there went a maid and told them: and they went forward, to carry the message to king David, for they might not be seen, nor enter into the city.

YLTAnd Jonathan and Ahimaaz are standing at En-Rogel, and the maid-servant hath gone and declared to them — and they go and have declared [it] to king David — for they are not able to be seen to go in to the city.

DrbyAnd Jonathan and Ahimaaz stayed by En-rogel; and the maid went and told them; and they went and told king David, for they might not be seen to come into the city.

RVNow Jonathan and Ahimaaz stayed by En-rogel; and a maidservant used to go and tell them; and they went and told king David: for they might not be seen to come into the city.

WbstrNow Jonathan and Ahimaaz stayed by En-rogel; for they might not be seen to come into the city: and a maid servant went and told them; and they went and told king David.

KJB-1769Now Jonathan and Ahimaaz stayed by En-rogel; for they might not be seen to come into the city: and a wench went and told them; and they went and told king David.

KJB-1611Now Ionathan and Ahimaaz stayed by En-rogel: (for they might not be seene to come into the citie) and a wench went and tolde them: and they went, and tolde king Dauid.
   (Modernised spelling is same as from KJB-1769 above, apart from punctuation)

BshpsNow Ionathan and Ahimaaz abode by the well Rogel: (for they might not be seene to come into the citie) and a wench went and told them: And they went, and shewed king Dauid.
   (Now Yonathan and Ahimaaz abode by the well Rogel: (for they might not be seen to come into the city) and a wench went and told them: And they went, and showed king David.)

GnvaNow Ionathan and Ahimaaz abode by En-rogel: (for they might not be seene to come into the citie) and a maid went, and tolde them, and they went and shewed King Dauid.
   (Now Yonathan and Ahimaaz abode by En-rogel: (for they might not be seen to come into the city) and a maid went, and told them, and they went and showed King David. )

CvdlAs for Ionathas and Ahimaaz, they stode by the well of Rogel, and a damsell wente thither and tolde them. They wente on their waye, and tolde kynge Dauid, for they durst not be sene to come in to the cite.
   (As for Yonathas and Ahimaaz, they stood by the well of Rogel, and a damsel went thither/there and told them. They went on their way, and told king David, for they durst not be seen to come in to the city.)

WyclForsothe Jonathas and Achymaas stoden bisidis the welle of Rogel; an handmaide yede, and telde to hem, and thei yeden forth to telle the message to kyng Dauid; for thei myyten not be seyn, nether entre in to the citee.
   (Forsothe Yonathas and Achymaas stood besides the welle of Rogel; an handmaid went, and told to them, and they went forth to telle the message to king David; for they myyten not be seen, neither enter in to the city.)

LuthJonathan aber und Ahimaaz stunden bei dem Brunnen Rogel, und eine Magd ging hin und sagte es ihnen an. Sie aber gingen hin und sagten‘s dem Könige David an; denn sie durften sich nicht sehen lassen, daß sie in die Stadt kämen.
   (Yonathan but and Ahimaaz stunden at to_him Brunnen Rogel, and one Magd went there and said it to_them an. They/She but went there and saidn‘s to_him kings/king David an; because they/she/them durften itself/yourself/themselves not see lassen, that they/she/them in the city kämen.)

ClVgJonathas autem et Achimaas stabant juxta fontem Rogel: abiit ancilla et nuntiavit eis. Et illi profecti sunt, ut referrent ad regem David nuntium: non enim poterant videri, aut introire civitatem.
   (Yonathas however and Achimaas stabant next_to fontem Rogel: he_is_gone ancilla and nuntiavit eis. And illi profecti are, as referrent to regem David nuntium: not/no because they_could videri, aut introire civitatem. )


TSNTyndale Study Notes:

17:17 Jonathan and Ahimaaz: See 15:27, 36.
• The location of En-rogel is uncertain, but it cannot have been too far east of Jerusalem.


UTNuW Translation Notes:

Note 1 topic: translate-names

(Occurrence 0) Jonathan … Ahimaaz

(Some words not found in UHB: and,Jonathan and,Ahimaaz staying in/on/at/with,En- -rogel and,go the,servant_girl and,tell to/for=them and,they go and,tell to/for=the_king Dāvid that/for/because/then/when not could to,seen to,entering the,city,to )

See how you translated these men’s names in 2 Samuel 15:27.

Note 2 topic: figures-of-speech / metonymy

(Occurrence 0) When the message came

(Some words not found in UHB: and,Jonathan and,Ahimaaz staying in/on/at/with,En- -rogel and,go the,servant_girl and,tell to/for=them and,they go and,tell to/for=the_king Dāvid that/for/because/then/when not could to,seen to,entering the,city,to )

Here the “message” is spoken of as coming to them, when really it is the woman who came to then bringing the message. Alternate translation: “When she brought them a message”

Note 3 topic: translate-names

(Occurrence 0) spring of Rogel

(Some words not found in UHB: and,Jonathan and,Ahimaaz staying in/on/at/with,En- -rogel and,go the,servant_girl and,tell to/for=them and,they go and,tell to/for=the_king Dāvid that/for/because/then/when not could to,seen to,entering the,city,to )

This is the name of a place.

BI 2Sa 17:17 ©