PRO 17:25 Parallel Verse View

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Key: khaki:verbs.
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BrLXX Ὀργὴ πατρὶ υἱὸς ἄφρων, καὶ ὀδύνη τῇ τεκούσῃ αὐτόν.
(Orgaʸ patri huios afrōn, kai odunaʸ taʸ tekousaʸ auton. )

BrTr A foolish son is a cause of anger to his father, and grief to her that bore him.

ULT A stupid son is a grief to his father
⇔ and bitterness to her who bore him.

UST Stupid children grieve their fathers
⇔ and make their mothers miserable.

BSB ⇔ A foolish son brings grief to his father
⇔ and bitterness to her who bore him.

OEB A foolish son is a grief to his father,
⇔ and bitterness to her that bore him.

WEBBE A foolish son brings grief to his father,
⇔ and bitterness to her who bore him.

WMBB (Same as above)

NET A foolish child is a grief to his father,
⇔ and bitterness to the mother who bore him.

LSV A foolish son [is] a provocation to his father,
And bitterness to her bearing him.

FBV A stupid son brings grief to his father and sadness to his mother who gave birth to him.

T4T ⇔ Children who are foolish cause their father to be sad
⇔ and also cause their mother to be very sorrowful.

LEB • is the child of a fool, and bitterness to her who bore him.

BBE A foolish son is a grief to his father, and bitter pain to her who gave him birth.

Moff No Moff PRO book available

JPS A foolish son is vexation to his father, and bitterness to her that bore him.

ASV A foolish son is a grief to his father,
⇔ And bitterness to her that bare him.

DRA A foolish son is the anger of the father: and the sorrow of the mother that bore him.

YLT A provocation to his father [is] a foolish son, And bitterness to her that bare him.

Drby A foolish son is a grief to his father, and bitterness to her that bore him.

RV A foolish son is a grief to his father, and bitterness to her that bare him.

Wbstr A foolish son is a grief to his father, and bitterness to her that bore him.

KJB-1769 A foolish son is a grief to his father, and bitterness to her that bare him.

KJB-1611 [fn]A foolish sonne is a griefe to his father, & bitternes to her that bare him.
(A foolish son is a griefe to his father, and bitternes to her that bare him.)

17:25 Chap. 10. 1. & 15. 20. and 19. 13.

Bshps An vndiscrete sonne is a griefe vnto his father: and an heauinesse vnto his mother.
(An undiscrete son is a griefe unto his father: and an heauinesse unto his mother.)

Gnva A foolish sonne is a griefe vnto his father, and a heauines to her that bare him.
(A foolish son is a griefe unto his father, and a heauines to her that bare him. )

Cvdl An vndiscrete sonne is a grefe vnto his father, and heuynesse vnto his mother yt bare him.
(An undiscrete son is a grefe unto his father, and heuynesse unto his mother it bare him.)

Wycl A fonned sone is the ire of the fadir, and the sorewe of the modir that gendride hym.
(A fonned son is the ire of the father, and the sorrow of the mother that begat/gave_birth_to him.)

Luth Ein närrischer Sohn ist seines Vaters Trauern und Betrübnis seiner Mutter, die ihn geboren hat.
(A närrischer son is his father Trauern and Betrübnis his Mutter, the him/it geboren has.)

ClVg Ira patris filius stultus, et dolor matris quæ genuit eum.
(Ira of_the_father son stultus, and pain matris which genuit him. )

UTN uW Translation Notes:

Note 1 topic: figures-of-speech / genericnoun

לְ֭⁠אָבִי⁠ו בֵּ֣ן כְּסִ֑יל & לְ⁠יוֹלַדְתּֽ⁠וֹ

to,father,his son foolish & to,bore,him

A stupid son, his, her, and him represent types of people in general, not specific people. If it would be helpful in your language, you could use more natural expressions. See how you translated a stupid son in 10:1. Alternate translation: “Any stupid son … to that person's father … to the person who bore that person”

Note 2 topic: figures-of-speech / metonymy

כַּ֣עַס לְ֭⁠אָבִי⁠ו

provocation to,father,his

Here Solomon speaks of a son causing his father to feel grief as if that son himself were that grief. If it would be helpful in your language, you could express the meaning plainly. Alternate translation: “causes grief for his father” or “causes his father to feel grief”

Note 3 topic: figures-of-speech / abstractnouns

כַּ֣עַס & וּ֝⁠מֶ֗מֶר

provocation & and,bitterness

See how you translated the abstract nouns grief in 10:1 and bitterness in 14:10.

Note 4 topic: figures-of-speech / metonymy

וּ֝⁠מֶ֗מֶר לְ⁠יוֹלַדְתּֽ⁠וֹ

and,bitterness to,bore,him

Here Solomon speaks of a son causing his mother to feel bitterness as if that son himself were that bitterness. If it would be helpful in your language, you could express the meaning plainly. Alternate translation: “and causes bitterness for her who bore him” or “and causes her who bore him to feel bitter”

Parallel PRO 17:25