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Parallel PROV 17:3

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OET (OET-RV)There’s a crucible and furnace for gold and silver,
 ⇔ ^ but it’s Yahweh who tests hearts.OET logo mark

OET-LVA_crucible is_for_silver and_a_furnace is_for_gold and_is_testing hearts YHWH.
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UHBמַצְרֵ֣ף לַ֭⁠כֶּסֶף וְ⁠כ֣וּר לַ⁠זָּהָ֑ב וּ⁠בֹחֵ֖ן לִבּ֣וֹת יְהוָֽה׃
   (maʦrēf la⁠kkeşef və⁠kūr la⁠zzāhāⱱ ū⁠ⱱoḩēn libōt yhwh.)

Key: khaki:verbs, green:YHWH.
Note: Automatic aligning of the OET-RV to the LV is done by some temporary software, hence the OET-RV alignments are incomplete (and may occasionally be wrong).

BrLXXὭσπερ δοκιμάζεται ἐν καμίνῳ ἄργυρος καὶ χρυσὸς, οὕτως ἐκλεκταὶ καρδίαι παρὰ Κυρίῳ.
   (Hōsper dokimazetai en kaminōi arguros kai ⱪrusos, houtōs eklektai kardiai para Kuriōi. )

BrTrAs silver and gold are tried in a furnace, so are choice hearts with the Lord.

ULTThe smelting-pot is for the silver and the furnace is for the gold,
 ⇔ and Yahweh tests hearts.

USTPeople put silver and gold into very hot furnaces to burn out what is impure,
 ⇔ and Yahweh tests what people are thinking and desiring to do in a similar manner.

BSBA crucible for silver and a furnace for gold,
 ⇔ but the LORD is the tester of hearts.

MSB (Same as BSB above)


OEBNo OEB PROV book available

WEBBEThe refining pot is for silver, and the furnace for gold,
 ⇔ but the LORD tests the hearts.

WMBB (Same as above)

NETThe crucible is for refining silver and the furnace is for gold,
 ⇔ likewise the Lord tests hearts.

LSVA refining pot [is] for silver, and a furnace for gold,
And the trier of hearts [is] YHWH.

FBVA crucible tests silver, and a furnace tests gold, but the Lord tests the attitude of mind.

T4T  ⇔ Workers put silver and gold in a very hot furnace to burn out what is impure,
 ⇔ and Yahweh similarly examines people’s inner beings to see if they are pure.

LEB   • A crucible is for the silver, and a furnace is for the gold, but Yahweh will test hearts.

BBEThe heating-pot is for silver and the oven-fire for gold, but the Lord is the tester of hearts.

MoffThe smelter for silver, the furnace for gold,
 ⇔ and the Eternal for testing the heart!

JPSThe refining pot is for silver, and the furnace for gold; but the LORD trieth the hearts.

ASVThe refining pot is for silver, and the furnace for gold;
 ⇔ But Jehovah trieth the hearts.

DRAAs silver is tried by fire, and gold in the furnace: so the Lord trieth the hearts.

YLTA refining pot [is] for silver, and a furnace for gold, And the trier of hearts [is] Jehovah.

DrbyThe fining-pot is for silver, and the furnace for gold; but Jehovah trieth the hearts.

RVThe fining pot is for silver, and the furnace for gold: but the LORD trieth the hearts.
   (The fining pot is for silver, and the furnace for gold: but the LORD trieth/tries the hearts. )

SLTThe crucible for silver and the furnace for gold: and Jehovah tries hearts.

WbstrThe fining-pot is for silver, and the furnace for gold: but the LORD trieth the hearts.

KJB-1769The fining pot is for silver, and the furnace for gold: but the LORD trieth the hearts.
   (The fining pot is for silver, and the furnace for gold: but the LORD trieth/tries the hearts. )

KJB-1611The fining pot is for siluer, and the furnace for gold: but the LORD trieth the hearts.
   (Modernised spelling is same as from KJB-1769 above)

BshpsAs siluer is tryed in the fire, and golde in the furnace: so doth the Lorde proue the heartes.
   (As silver is tried in the fire, and gold in the furnace: so doth/does the Lord prove the hearts.)

GnvaAs is the fining pot for siluer, and the fornace for golde, so the Lord trieth the heartes.
   (As is the fining pot for silver, and the furnace for gold, so the Lord trieth/tries the hearts. )

CvdlLike as syluer is tried in the fyre and golde in the fornace, euen so doth the LORDE proue the hertes.
   (Like as silver is tried in the fire and gold in the furnace, even so doth/does the LORD prove the hearts.)

WyclAs siluer is preued bi fier, and gold is preued bi a chymnei, so the Lord preueth hertis.
   (As silver is proved by fire, and gold is proved by a chymnei, so the Lord preueth hearts.)

LuthWie das Feuer Silber und der Ofen Gold, also prüfet der HErr die Herzen.
   (How the fire(n) silver(n) and the/of_the oven Gold, also checks/examines the/of_the LORD the heart(s).)

ClVgSicut igne probatur argentum et aurum camino, ita corda probat Dominus.
   (Like with_fire approved silver and gold camino, so/thus hearts approves Master. )


HAPHebrew accents and phrasing: See Allan Johnson's Hebrew accents and phrasing analysis.

TSNTyndale Study Notes:

17:3 The Lord’s refining fire (see Ps 66:10; Jer 9:7; Mal 3:2-3) separates what is precious from the impurities in a person’s heart (cp. Prov 16:2; 21:2; 27:21).


SOTNSIL Open Translator’s Notes:

Section 10:1–22:16: This is the main collection of Solomon’s proverbs

This section is the main collection of Solomon’s proverbs. It has a very different structure from the longer poetic lectures of chapters 1–9. It consists mostly of individual couplets (two-line poems) that are each one verse in length. With the exception of the title (10:1a), paragraph breaks will not be indicated in the Notes or Display. You may of course choose to start each proverb as a separate paragraph in your translation.

In chapters 10–15, most of these one-verse couplets express a contrast between the two lines. One of the more common contrasts is between the righteous/wise and the wicked/foolish and the different consequences of their conduct.

In chapters 16:1–22:16, more topics are discussed. There is more emphasis on the role of the king and other leaders. In these chapters, there are few proverbs with contrasting lines. Some of the parallel lines are similar in meaning. More frequently, the second line adds to what the first line says or gives an example. Most of the verses have no obvious connection with the previous or following proverbs.UBS (page 214), Fox (page 509), McKane (page 413). Many scholars, including McKane, point out that there are some topical groupings as well as poetic connections. These include the repetition of certain words or sounds. This observation does not deny the individual nature of most of the proverbs in this Section.

Two of the types of proverbs in this section are not found in chapters 1–9. One type contains logical reasoning from the lesser to the greater. See 11:31 for a list of these proverbs. There are also several varieties of complex “better than” proverbs. The most common have a contrasting situation in each line (see 12:9). For other varieties, see 16:16, 19:1, and 21:9.

Many of the proverbs in this section refer to categories of people who share a common trait. For example, they refer to the righteous, the wise, the poor, and the lazy. In Hebrew, some verses use singular forms to refer to these groups of people. Other verses use plural forms. Still others use a combination of singular and plural. See the note on 10:30a–b for one example. For most of these verses, the Notes will not comment on the difference between singular and plural forms. Use a natural way in your language to refer to one or more people who are in the same category.

Many of the proverbs in this section express a general principle in abstract terms. They are not addressed specifically to the readers. For example, 10:2a–b says:

Ill-gotten treasures are of no value,

but righteousness delivers from death.

However, the author intended his readers to understand these proverbs as advice that they should follow. In some languages, authors or speakers give advice more directly, using pronouns such as you(sing), you(plur), we(dual), or we(incl). See the note on 10:2 for translation suggestions.

Some other headings for this section are:

Proverbs of Solomon (NIV)

The Wise Words of Solomon (NCV)

Here are many wise things that Solomon said

17:3

This verse is a metaphor. In this metaphor, the LORD (17:3b) is compared to a crucible and a furnace (17:3a).

3aA crucible for silver and a furnace for gold,

3bbut the LORD is the tester of hearts.

Some versions, such as the BSB (quoted above), use the word “but” to indicate a contrast between the two lines. Other versions translate the comparison without an implied contrast.The two lines are connected with the Hebrew conjunction waw, which may be translated here as “and,” “but,” “also,” “likewise,” etc. English versions that translate it with “but” include the BSB, GW, KJV, NASB, NCV, NIV, NJB, NLT, NRSV, and REB. Versions that translate it as a simple comparison include the ESV, NET, RSV, and GNT. The CEV leaves the connection implied. Most scholars call attention to the similarity, not the contrast. These include UBS (page 376), Longman (page 343), Toy (page 336), and Murphy (page 128). For example:

Gold and silver are tested by fire, and a person’s heart is tested by the Lord. (GNT)

The crucible is for refining silver and the furnace is for gold, likewise the Lord tests hearts. (NET)

Translate the relationship between the two lines in a way that clearly expresses the meaning of the comparison.

17:3a

A crucible for silver and a furnace for gold,

17:3b

but the LORD is the tester of hearts.

17:3a–b

A crucible for silver and a furnace for gold, but the LORD is the tester of hearts: A crucible is a container used for melting metals so that the impurities can be removed. A furnace is like a large oven where a fire is made to melt metals. It has the same function as a crucible.

silver and gold are melted in a crucible or furnace to test their purity or to refine/purify them. Similarly, the LORD tests or examines a person’s “heart” or mind/thoughts to find out whether they are pure. (For “heart,” see the note on 10:20b.)

A crucible and a furnace can be used for either testing or refining. Since 17:3b specifies that the LORD is the tester of the heart, the main point of similarity is probably testing.Toy, Delitzsch, UBS and Waltke all focus on the primary meaning of baḥan as “test/prove.” The BSB translates most of the 28 occurrences of this verb with a form of “test” or “try.” However, Whybray and Murphy both mention purification as an inevitable by-product of testing. NIDOTTE (H1043), Longman, and Fox all concur that God’s testing of the human heart involves not only evaluation but also purification.

Some languages may not have terms for crucible or furnace. Some other ways to translate these terms are:

In some languages, a literal translation of this metaphor may be hard to understand. Some other ways to translate it are:


UTNuW Translation Notes:

Note 1 topic: figures-of-speech / genericnoun

מַצְרֵ֣ף לַ֭⁠כֶּסֶף וְ⁠כ֣וּר לַ⁠זָּהָ֑ב

crucible [is]_for,silver and,a_furnace [is]_for,gold

The terms The smelting-pot, the silver, the furnace, and the gold represent these things in general, not any specific things. If it would be helpful in your language, you could use more natural expressions. Alternate translation: “Any smelting-pot is for silver and any furnace is for gold”

Note 2 topic: translate-unknown

מַצְרֵ֣ף

crucible

A smelting-pot is a container in which metals are melted at a very high temperature so that impurities may be discovered and removed from the metal. Since the second clause mentions tests, most likely Solomon is referring to using the pot to discover impurities. If your readers would not be familiar with this type of container, you could use the name of something similar in your area or you could use a more general term. Alternate translation: “The pot used for testing and refining metal”

Note 3 topic: figures-of-speech / explicit

מַצְרֵ֣ף לַ֭⁠כֶּסֶף וְ⁠כ֣וּר לַ⁠זָּהָ֑ב

crucible [is]_for,silver and,a_furnace [is]_for,gold

Solomon assumes that his readers will understand that the smelting-pot and furnace are used to refine and test the purity of silver and gold. You could include this information if that would be helpful to your readers. Alternate translation: “The smelting-pot is for testing and refining the silver, and the furnace is for testing and refining the gold”

Note 4 topic: grammar-connect-words-phrases

וּ⁠בֹחֵ֖ן לִבּ֣וֹת יְהוָֽה

and_[is],testing hearts YHWH

Solomon uses and here to indicate that he is making a comparison between the first clause and the second clause. How Yahweh tests hearts is similar to how The smelting-pot and furnace are used to test silver and gold to see how pure they are. If this connection is not clear, you may want to use a connecting word to show how this statement relates to what came before it. Alternate translation: “likewise, Yahweh tests hearts”

Note 5 topic: figures-of-speech / metaphor

וּ⁠בֹחֵ֖ן לִבּ֣וֹת יְהוָֽה

and_[is],testing hearts YHWH

Here Solomon speaks of Yahweh evaluating what people think as if their hearts were metal that he was testing to discover impurities. If it would be helpful in your language, you could express the meaning plainly. Alternate translation: “Yahweh evaluates peoples’ hearts”

Note 6 topic: figures-of-speech / metonymy

לִבּ֣וֹת

hearts

See how you translated the same use of “heart” in [2:2](../02/02.md).

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