PRO 17:21 Parallel Verse View

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Text critical issues=none Clarity of original=clear Importance=normal (All still tentative.)

Key: khaki:verbs, red:negative.
Note: Automatic aligning of the OET-RV to the LV is done by some temporary software, hence the OET-RV alignments are incomplete (and may occasionally be wrong).

BrLXX καρδία δὲ ἄφρονος ὀδύνη τῷ κεκτημένῳ αὐτήν· οὐκ εὐφραίνεται πατὴρ ἐφʼ υἱῷ ἀπαιδεύτῳ, υἱὸς δὲ φρόνιμος εὐφραίνει μητέρα αὐτοῦ.
(kardia de afronos odunaʸ tōi kektaʸmenōi autaʸn; ouk eufrainetai pataʸr efʼ huiōi apaideutōi, huios de fronimos eufrainei maʸtera autou. )

BrTr and the heart of a fool is grief to its possessor. A father rejoices not over an uninstructed son; but a wise son gladdens his mother.

ULT One who begets a stupid one, it is for grief for him,
⇔ and the father of a worthless one will not rejoice.

UST Stupid people grieve their parents.
⇔ Indeed, worthless people will not cause their fathers to be joyful.

BSB ⇔ A man fathers a fool to his own grief;
⇔ the father of a fool has no joy.

OEB A man begets a fool to his sorrow;
⇔ no joy can there be for the father of a fool.

WEBBE He who becomes the father of a fool grieves.
⇔ The father of a fool has no joy.

WMBB (Same as above)

NET Whoever brings a fool into the world does so to his grief,
⇔ and the father of a fool has no joy.

LSV Whoever is begetting a fool has affliction for it,
Indeed, the father of a fool does not rejoice.

FBV A stupid son brings grief to his father; the father of a child who does stupid things has no joy.

T4T ⇔ Children who are foolish soon cause their parents to be very sad;
⇔ their parents will not be joyful at all.

LEB • there is trouble for him; the father of a fool will not rejoice.

BBE He who has an unwise son gets sorrow for himself, and the father of a foolish son has no joy.

Moff No Moff PRO book available

JPS He that begetteth a fool doeth it to his sorrow; and the father of a churl hath no joy.

ASV He that begetteth a fool doeth it to his sorrow;
⇔ And the father of a fool hath no joy.

DRA A fool is born to his own disgrace: and even his father shall not rejoice in a fool.

YLT Whoso is begetting a fool hath affliction for it, Yea, the father of a fool rejoiceth not.

Drby He that begetteth a fool [doeth it] to his sorrow, and the father of a vile [man] hath no joy.

RV He that begetteth a fool doeth it to his sorrow: and the father of a fool hath no joy.

Wbstr He that begetteth a fool doeth it to his sorrow: and the father of a fool hath no joy.

KJB-1769 He that begetteth a fool doeth it to his sorrow: and the father of a fool hath no joy.
(He that begetteth a fool doeth it to his sorrow: and the father of a fool hath/has no joy. )

KJB-1611 [fn]He that begetteth a foole, doth it to his sorrow: and the father of a foole hath no ioy.
(He that begetteth a foole, doth it to his sorrow: and the father of a foole hath/has no ioy.)

17:21 Cha. 10. 1.

Bshps He that begetteth a foole, begetteth his sorowe: and the father of a foole can haue no ioy.
(He that begetteth a foole, begetteth his sorowe: and the father of a foole can have no ioy.)

Gnva He that begetteth a foole, getteth himselfe sorow, and the father of a foole can haue no ioy.
(He that begetteth a foole, getteth himself sorow, and the father of a foole can have no ioy. )

Cvdl An vnwyse body bryngeth himselfe in to sorowe, and ye father of a foole can haue no ioye.
(An unwyse body bringeth/brings himself in to sorrow, and ye/you_all father of a foole can have no ioye.)

Wycl A fool is borun in his schenschipe; but nether the fadir schal be glad in a fool.
(A fool is born in his schenschipe; but neither the father shall be glad in a fool.)

Luth Wer einen Narren zeuget, der hat Grämen, und eines Narren Vater hat keine Freude.
(Who a Narren zeuget, the/of_the has Grämen, and one Narren father has no Freude.)

ClVg Natus est stultus in ignominiam suam; sed nec pater in fatuo lætabitur.
(Natus it_is stultus in ignominiam suam; but but_not father in fatuo lætabitur. )

UTN uW Translation Notes:

Note 1 topic: figures-of-speech / parallelism

יֹלֵ֣ד כְּ֭סִיל לְ⁠ת֣וּגָה ל֑⁠וֹ וְ⁠לֹֽא־יִ֝שְׂמַ֗ח אֲבִ֣י נָבָֽל

begets fool to,sorrow to=him/it and=not has_~_joy father_of fool

These two clauses mean basically the same thing. The second emphasizes the meaning of the first by repeating the same idea with different words. If it would be helpful to your readers, you could connect the phrases with a word other than and that shows that the second phrase is repeating the first one, not saying something additional. Alternate translation: “One who begets a stupid one, it is for grief for him; yes, the father of a worthless one will not rejoice”

Note 2 topic: figures-of-speech / genericnoun

יֹלֵ֣ד כְּ֭סִיל & ל֑⁠וֹ & אֲבִ֣י נָבָֽל

begets fool & to=him/it & father_of fool

One who begets, a stupid one, him, the father, and a worthless one refer to types of people in general, not specific people. If it would be helpful in your language, you could use a more natural expression. See how you translated a stupid one in 10:18 and a worthless one in 17:7. Alternate translation: “Any person who begets any stupid person … for that person … any father of any worthless one”

Note 3 topic: grammar-connect-logic-result

לְ⁠ת֣וּגָה

to,sorrow

Here, it is for indicates that what follows is the result of begetting a stupid one. Use the most natural way in your language to indicate result. Alternate translation: “results in grief”

Note 4 topic: figures-of-speech / abstractnouns

לְ⁠ת֣וּגָה

to,sorrow

See how you translated the abstract noun grief in 10:1.

Parallel PRO 17:21