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Parallel PRO 17:12

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BI Pro 17:12 ©

Text critical issues=none Clarity of original=clearImportance=normal(All still tentative.)

OET (OET-RV)
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OET-LVLet_it_meet a_bear robbed_of_cubs in/on/at/with_cubs and_rather_than a_fool in/on/at/with_folly_his.

UHBפָּג֬וֹשׁ דֹּ֣ב שַׁכּ֣וּל בְּ⁠אִ֑ישׁ וְ⁠אַל־כְּ֝סִ֗יל בְּ⁠אִוַּלְתּֽ⁠וֹ׃
   (pāgōsh doⱱ shakkūl bə⁠ʼiysh və⁠ʼal-kəşil bə⁠ʼiūalt⁠ō.)

Key: khaki:verbs.
Note: Automatic aligning of the OET-RV to the LV is done by some temporary software, hence the OET-RV alignments are incomplete (and may occasionally be wrong).

BrLXXἘμπεσεῖται μέριμνα ἀνδρὶ νοήμονι, οἱ δὲ ἄφρονες διαλογιοῦνται κακά.
   (Empeseitai merimna andri noaʸmoni, hoi de afrones dialogiountai kaka. )

BrTrCare may befall a man of understanding; but fools will meditate evils.

ULTLet a female bear robbed of offspring meet a man
 ⇔ and not a stupid one in his folly!

USTIt would be better to meet a female bear that is furious because someone stole her cubs
 ⇔ than to meet stupid people while they are acting foolishly!

BSB  ⇔ It is better to meet a bear robbed of her cubs
 ⇔ than a fool in his folly.


OEBMeet a bear robbed of her whelps
 ⇔ rather than a fool in his folly.

WEBBELet a bear robbed of her cubs meet a man,
 ⇔ rather than a fool in his folly.

WMBB (Same as above)

NETIt is better for a person to meet a mother bear being robbed of her cubs,
 ⇔ than to encounter a fool in his folly.

LSVThe meeting of a bereaved bear by a man,
And—not a fool in his folly.

FBVBetter to meet a she-bear robbed of her cubs than a stupid person and their foolishness.

T4T  ⇔ A mother bear whose cubs have been taken away from her is dangerous,
 ⇔ but it is more dangerous to confront a foolish person who is doing something foolish.

LEB• May a man meet a she-bear robbed of offspring and not a fool in his folly.

BBEIt is better to come face to face with a bear whose young ones have been taken away than with a foolish man acting foolishly.

MoffNo Moff PRO book available

JPSLet a bear robbed of her whelps meet a man, rather than a fool in his folly.

ASVLet a bear robbed of her whelps meet a man,
 ⇔ Rather than a fool in his folly.

DRAIt is better to meet a bear robbed of her whelps, than a fool trusting in his own folly.

YLTThe meeting of a bereaved bear by a man, And — not a fool in his folly.

DrbyLet a bear robbed of her whelps meet a man rather than a fool in his folly.

RVLet a bear robbed of her whelps meet a man, rather than a fool in his folly.

WbstrLet a bear robbed of her whelps meet a man, rather than a fool in his folly.

KJB-1769Let a bear robbed of her whelps meet a man, rather than a fool in his folly.

KJB-1611Let a beare robbed of her whelps meet a man, rather then a foole in his folly.
   (Let a bear robbed of her whelps meet a man, rather then a foole in his folly.)

BshpsIt were better to meete a shee beare robbed of her whelpes, then a foole trusting in his foolishnesse.
   (It were better to meet a she bear robbed of her whelpes, then a foole trusting in his foolishness.)

GnvaIt is better for a man to meete a beare robbed of her whelpes, then a foole in his follie.
   (It is better for a man to meet a bear robbed of her whelpes, then a foole in his follie. )

CvdlIt were better to come agaynst a she Bere robbed of hir whelpes, then agaynst a foole in his foolishnes.
   (It were better to come against a she Bere robbed of her whelpes, then against a foole in his foolishnes.)

WyclIt spedith more to meete a femal bere, whanne the whelpis ben rauyschid, than a fool tristynge to hym silf in his foli.
   (It spedith more to meet a femal bere, when the whelpis been rauyschid, than a fool tristynge to himself in his foli.)

LuthEs ist besser, einem Bären begegnen, dem die Jungen geraubet sind, denn einem Narren in seiner Narrheit.
   (It is besser, one Bären begegnen, to_him the Yungen geraubet are, because one Narren in his Narrheit.)

ClVgExpedit magis ursæ occurrere raptis fœtibus, quam fatuo confidenti in stultitia sua.[fn]
   (Expedit magis ursæ occurrere raptis fœtibus, how fatuo confidenti in stultitia sua. )


17.12 Expedit magis ursæ, etc. Facilius erat sanctis doctoribus furori gentilitatis occurrere, etc., usque ad, et hoc sæpe facilius fit, quam hæreticum ad fidem rectam revocare, vel catholicum prave agentem ad bonum opus reducere.


17.12 Expedit magis ursæ, etc. Facilius was sanctis doctoribus furori gentilitatis occurrere, etc., usque ad, and this sæpe facilius fit, how hæreticum to faith rectam revocare, or catholicum prave agentem to bonum opus reducere.


TSNTyndale Study Notes:

17:12 This saying cautions those who try to teach fools. A fool caught in foolishness will react with anger and violence.


UTNuW Translation Notes:

Note 1 topic: figures-of-speech / ellipsis

פָּג֬וֹשׁ דֹּ֣ב שַׁכּ֣וּל בְּ⁠אִ֑ישׁ וְ⁠אַל־כְּ֝סִ֗יל בְּ⁠אִוַּלְתּֽ⁠וֹ

meet bear robbed in/on/at/with,cubs and,rather_than fool in/on/at/with,folly,his

Solomon is leaving out some of the words that in many languages a clause would need in order to be complete. You could supply these words to the second clause from earlier in the sentence if it would be clearer in your language. Alternate translation: “Let a female bear robbed of offspring meet a man. Do not let a stupid one in his folly meet a man”

Note 2 topic: figures-of-speech / explicit

פָּג֬וֹשׁ דֹּ֣ב שַׁכּ֣וּל בְּ⁠אִ֑ישׁ וְ⁠אַל־כְּ֝סִ֗יל בְּ⁠אִוַּלְתּֽ⁠וֹ

meet bear robbed in/on/at/with,cubs and,rather_than fool in/on/at/with,folly,his

In this verse, Solomon implies that meeting a female bear robbed of offspring is better than meeting a stupid one in his folly. If it would be helpful in your language, you could state this explicitly. Alternate translation: “A female bear robbed of offspring meeting a man is better than a man meeting a stupid one in his folly”

Note 3 topic: figures-of-speech / genericnoun

דֹּ֣ב & בְּ⁠אִ֑ישׁ & כְּ֝סִ֗יל בְּ⁠אִוַּלְתּֽ⁠וֹ

bear & in/on/at/with,cubs & fool in/on/at/with,folly,his

Here, a female bear, a man, a stupid one, and his represent bears and types of people in general, not one particular bear or people. If it would be helpful in your language, you could use more natural expressions. Alternate translation: “any female bear … any person … any stupid person in that person’s folly”

Note 4 topic: figures-of-speech / activepassive

דֹּ֣ב שַׁכּ֣וּל

bear robbed

If your language does not use the passive form in this way, you could state this in active form or in another way that is natural in your language. Alternate translation: “a female bear from which someone has stolen offspring”

Note 5 topic: figures-of-speech / explicit

דֹּ֣ב

bear

Solomon assumes that his readers will understand that a female bear robbed of offspring would be extremely angry and violent. You could include this information if that would be helpful to your readers. Alternate translation: “an angry female bear”

Note 6 topic: figures-of-speech / explicit

שַׁכּ֣וּל

robbed

Although the word offspring is singular in form, here it refers to all of a bear’s cubs as a group. If it would be helpful in your language, you could say this plainly. Alternate translation: “robbed of cubs”

Note 7 topic: figures-of-speech / abstractnouns

בְּ⁠אִוַּלְתּֽ⁠וֹ

in/on/at/with,folly,his

See how you translated the abstract noun folly in 5:23.

BI Pro 17:12 ©