JOB 30:8 Parallel Verse View

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OET (OET-RV) They’re the children of fools, without any name to them.
⇔ They’ve been driven out of the land.

Key: khaki:verbs.
Note: Automatic aligning of the OET-RV to the LV is done by some temporary software, hence the OET-RV alignments are incomplete (and may occasionally be wrong).

BrLXX Ἀφρόνων υἱοὶ καὶ ἀτίμων, ὄνομα καὶ κλέος ἐσβεσμένον ἀπὸ γῆς.
(Afronōn huioi kai atimōn, onoma kai kleos esbesmenon apo gaʸs. )

BrTr They are sons of fools and vile men, whose name and glory are quenched from off the earth.

ULT Sons of a fool, indeed, sons of one without a name!
⇔ They are scourged from the land.

UST They are people without good sense,
⇔ and they have never achieved anything significant.
⇔ People force them to leave their towns.

OEB No OEB JOB 30:8 verse available

WEBBE They are children of fools, yes, children of wicked men.
⇔ They were flogged out of the land.

WMBB (Same as above)

NET Sons of senseless and nameless people,
⇔ they were driven out of the land with whips.

LSV Sons of folly—even sons without name,
They have been struck from the land.

FBV They are foolish, nameless people that have been driven from the land.

T4T They were people without good sense,
⇔ whose names no one knows;
⇔ they have been expelled from the land where they were born.

LEB • [fn] yes, [fn] they were cast out from the land.

30:? Literally “sons of good-for-nothing”

30:? Literally “sons of no name”

BBE They are sons of shame, and of men without a name, who have been forced out of the land.

Moff No Moff JOB book available

JPS They are children of churls, yea, children of ignoble men; they were scourged out of the land.

ASV They are children of fools, yea, children of base men;
⇔ They were scourged out of the land.

DRA The children of foolish and base men, and not appearing at all upon the earth.

YLT Sons of folly — even sons without name, They have been smitten from the land.

Drby Sons of fools, and sons of nameless sires, they are driven out of the land.

RV They are children of fools, yea, children of base men; they were scourged out of the land.

Wbstr They were children of fools, yes, children of base men: they were viler than the earth.

KJB-1769 They were children of fools, yea, children of base men: they were viler than the earth.[fn]

30.8 base…: Heb. men of no name

KJB-1611 [fn]They were children of fooles, yea children of base men: they were viler then the earth.

30:8 Heb. men of no name.

Bshps They were the children of fooles and vyllaynes, which are more vile then the earth.

Gnva They were the children of fooles and the children of villaines, which were more vile then the earth.

Cvdl They were the children of fooles & vylanes, which are deed awaye fro the worlde.
(They were the children of fooles and vylanes, which are dead away from the world.)

Wycl The sones of foolis and of vnnoble men, and outirli apperynge not in erthe.
(The sons of foolis and of unnoble men, and outirli appearing not in earth.)

Luth die Kinder loser und verachteter Leute, die die Geringsten im Lande waren.
(die children loser and verachteter Leute, the die Geringsten in_the land were.)

ClVg filii stultorum et ignobilium, et in terra penitus non parentes.[fn]
(filii stultorum and ignobilium, and in earth/land penitus not/no parentes. )

30.8 Filii stultorum et ignobilium. Eorum filii qui fuerunt, etc., usque ad qui a terra viventium extorres facti sunt.

30.8 Children stultorum and ignobilium. Eorum children who fuerunt, etc., until to who from earth/land viventium extorres facti are.

UTN uW Translation Notes:

Note 1 topic: figures-of-speech / genericnoun

בְּֽנֵי־נָ֭בָל גַּם־בְּנֵ֣י בְלִי־שֵׁ֑ם

sons_of foolish also/yet sons_of without name_of

Job is not referring to a specific fool or person without a name. He means such people in general. It may be more natural in your language to express these meanings by using plural forms. Alternate translation: “Sons of fools, indeed, sons of people without names”

Note 2 topic: figures-of-speech / ellipsis

בְּֽנֵי־נָ֭בָל גַּם־בְּנֵ֣י בְלִי־שֵׁ֑ם

sons_of foolish also/yet sons_of without name_of

Job is leaving out some of the words that in many languages a sentence would need in order to be complete. You can supply these words from the context if that would be helpful to your readers. However, you might also leave the words out in order to show the force of this exclamation, with which Job concludes his description of these young men. Alternate translation: “These young men are sons of fools! Indeed, they are sons of people without names”

Note 3 topic: figures-of-speech / idiom

בְּֽנֵי־נָ֭בָל גַּם־בְּנֵ֣י בְלִי־שֵׁ֑ם

sons_of foolish also/yet sons_of without name_of

In this context, the expression sons of describes people who share the qualities of something. Job is using this expression to describe the behavior and character of these young men. If it would be helpful to your readers, you could use an equivalent expression from your language or state the meaning plainly. The word fool here does not indicate someone who lacks intelligence or education; it means someone who chooses to disobey God, thinking there will be no consequences. The word name here means a good reputation. Alternate translation: “People who foolishly think they can disobey God! No wonder they are people of no reputation”

Note 4 topic: figures-of-speech / activepassive

נִ֝כְּא֗וּ מִן־הָ⁠אָֽרֶץ

whipped_out from/more_than the=earth/land

If your language does not use this passive form, you could express the idea in active form or in another way that is natural in your language. Alternate translation: “People scourge them from the land”

Note 5 topic: figures-of-speech / synecdoche

נִ֝כְּא֗וּ מִן־הָ⁠אָֽרֶץ

whipped_out from/more_than the=earth/land

Job is using one means by which authorities might drive such young men out of the community, by scourging (whipping) them, to mean all of the ways in which they would drive them out. If it would be helpful in your language, you could state the meaning plainly. Alternate translation: “They are driven from the land” or “People drive them from the land”

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