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Parallel GEN 18:23

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BI Gen 18:23 ©

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OET (OET-RV)so he went closer to Yahweh and asked, “Will you really destroy obedient people along with those who’re evil?

OET-LVAnd_came_near ʼAⱱrāhām and_said indeed will_you_sweep_away [the]_righteous with [the]_wicked.

UHBוַ⁠יִּגַּ֥שׁ אַבְרָהָ֖ם וַ⁠יֹּאמַ֑ר הַ⁠אַ֣ף תִּסְפֶּ֔ה צַדִּ֖יק עִם־רָשָֽׁע׃
   (va⁠yyiggash ʼaⱱrāhām va⁠yyoʼmar ha⁠ʼaf tişpeh ʦaddiq ˊim-rāshāˊ.)

Key: khaki:verbs.
Note: Automatic aligning of the OET-RV to the LV is done by some temporary software, hence the OET-RV alignments are incomplete (and may occasionally be wrong).

ULTThen Abraham approached him and said, “Will you really sweep away the righteous with the wicked?

USTThen Abraham stepped closer to Yahweh and asked him, “Certainly you will not destroy righteous people along with wicked people, will you?


BSB  § Abraham stepped forward and said, “Will You really sweep away the righteous with the wicked?

OEBAbraham drew near to the Lord and said, ‘Will you sweep away the righteous with the wicked?

WEBBEAbraham came near, and said, “Will you consume the righteous with the wicked?

WMBB (Same as above)

NETAbraham approached and said, “Will you sweep away the godly along with the wicked?

LSVAnd Abraham draws near and says, “Do You also consume righteous with wicked?

FBVAbraham came to him and asked: “Are you really going to wipe out the good people along with the wicked?

T4TAbraham came closer to him and said, “Will you really destroy righteous people along with wicked ones?

LEBAnd Abraham drew near to Yahweh and said, “Will you also sweep away the righteous with the wicked?

BBEAnd Abraham came near, and said, Will you let destruction come on the upright with the sinners?

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JPSAnd Abraham drew near, and said: 'Wilt Thou indeed sweep away the righteous with the wicked?

ASVAnd Abraham drew near, and said, Wilt thou consume the righteous with the wicked?

DRAAnd drawing nigh he said: Wilt thou destroy the just with the wicked?

YLTAnd Abraham draweth nigh and saith, 'Dost Thou also consume righteous with wicked?

DrbyAnd Abraham drew near, and said, Wilt thou also cause the righteous to perish with the wicked?

RVAnd Abraham drew near, and said, Wilt thou consume the righteous with the wicked?

WbstrAnd Abraham drew near, and said, Wilt thou also destroy the righteous with the wicked?

KJB-1769¶ And Abraham drew near, and said, Wilt thou also destroy the righteous with the wicked?
   (¶ And Abraham drew near, and said, Wilt thou/you also destroy the righteous with the wicked? )

KJB-1611¶ And Abraham drew neere, and said, Wilt thou also destroy the righteous with the wicked?
   (Modernised spelling is same as from KJB-1769 above)

BshpsAnd Abraham drewe neare, and said: Wylt thou also destroye the righteous with the wicked?
   (And Abraham drewe neare, and said: Wylt thou/you also destroy the righteous with the wicked?)

GnvaThen Abraham drewe neere, and said, Wilt thou also destroy the righteous with the wicked?
   (Then Abraham drewe near, and said, Wilt thou/you also destroy the righteous with the wicked? )

Cvdland stepte vnto him, and sayde:Wilt thou then destroye the righteous with the vngodly?
   (and stepte unto him, and said:Wilt thou/you then destroy the righteous with the ungodly?)

Wycand neiyede, and seide, Whether thou schalt leese a iust man with the wickid man?
   (and neiyede, and said, Whether thou/you shalt leese a just man with the wicked man?)

Luthund trat zu ihm und sprach: Willst du denn den Gerechten mit dem GOttlosen umbringen?
   (and stepped to him and spoke: Willst you because the righteous_ones with to_him Godlosen umbringen?)

ClVgEt appropinquans ait: Numquid perdes justum cum impio?
   (And appropinquans he_said: Numquid perdes justum when/with impio? )

BrTrAnd Abraam drew nigh and said, Wouldest thou destroy the righteous with the wicked, and shall the righteous be as the wicked?

BrLXXΚαὶ ἐγγίσας Ἁβραὰμ, εἶπε, μὴ συναπολέσῃς δίκαιον μετὰ ἀσεβοῦς· καὶ ἔσται ὁ δίκαιος ὡς ὁ ἀσεβής.
   (Kai engisas Habraʼam, eipe, maʸ sunapolesaʸs dikaion meta asebous; kai estai ho dikaios hōs ho asebaʸs. )


TSNTyndale Study Notes:

18:16-33 God took Abraham into his confidence as his prophet (18:16-21; see 20:7); Abraham, in turn, interceded for Sodom (18:23-32; see Heb 7:23-26). God is able to do whatever he chooses to do; this passage affirms that it will be just and right.


UTNuW Translation Notes:

וַ⁠יִּגַּ֥שׁ אַבְרָהָ֖ם

and,came_near ʼAⱱrāhām

Alternate translation: “Then Abraham came closer to him”

Note 1 topic: writing-quotations

וַ⁠יֹּאמַ֑ר

and,said

Alternate translation: “and said to him,”

Note 2 topic: figures-of-speech / rquestion

הַ⁠אַ֣ף תִּסְפֶּ֔ה

?,indeed sweep_away

Abraham uses a rhetorical question here to express his strong feelings and concern about what Yahweh told him. Consider whether or not it is clear and natural to use a rhetorical question here in your language. Make sure it does not sound like Abraham is angry or being rude. See how you translated a similar idiom (“wipe away”) in Gen 6:7. Alternate translation: “Would you indeed wipe out” or “Surely you would not destroy”

צַדִּ֖יק

law-abiding/just

Alternate translation: “the good people in the city”

עִם

with

Alternate translation: “together with” or “when you destroy”

Note 3 topic: figures-of-speech / rquestion

רָשָֽׁע

wicked

The way you translate this rhetorical question will determine what punctuation mark you end this sentence with. If you use an exclamation point here, make sure it does not sound like Abraham was angry, shouting, or being disrespectful. Alternate translation: “the wicked people there” or “the people there who are evil” or “the wicked people there, would you?”


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Sodom and Gomorrah Are Destroyed

Genesis 18-19

Author’s note: This article assumes that Sodom, Gomorrah, and Bela (Zoar) were located at Bab edh-Dhra, Numeira, and Khirbat ash-Sheikh `Isa, respectively. The exact locations of the cities of the plain are widely debated, with the primary dispute centering around whether the cities are to be found in the northern area of the Dead Sea (since Lot headed east from Bethel [Genesis 13]) or the southern area (as the Medeba Map shows). It is beyond the scope of this article to present all the evidence to support a southern location, but many of them are well summarized here: “The Discovery of the Sin Cities of Sodom and Gomorrah.” In addition, Eusebius in his Onomasticon describes the Dead Sea as lying between Jericho and Zoar. This author has also recently found that Eusebius notes that Nebereim (Nimrim; see Isaiah 15:6 and Jeremiah 48:34) is located at a village called Bennamareim (likely the site of Gomorrah on this map), which he also says is north of Zoar. Thus, if Eusebius is correct, Zoar is clearly located in the southern area of the Dead Sea, which fits very well with the location shown on this map. Also, Lot’s relocation to Sodom after moving east to the plain of the Jordan suggests that Sodom was located on the east side of the Dead Sea.

The famous cities of Sodom and Gomorrah are first mentioned in Genesis 10:19 in a description of the territory of the Canaanites. The cities are mentioned again in chapter 13, which notes that while Abraham (then called Abram) was living near Bethel (also called Luz), tension began to grow between Abraham’s herders and the herders working for Abraham’s nephew Lot. To resolve the problem, Abraham suggested that he and Lot permanently part ways, and he offered Lot first choice of where to live. Lot chose to move east to the plain of the Jordan, because the land was well watered, and he eventually settled in the city of Sodom. Genesis 14 then describes how Lot was captured by four Mesopotamian kings as they attacked the cities of the plain, but Abraham rescued Lot. Sometime after this Abraham moved to the oaks of Mamre, near Hebron, and three visitors (one of whom is later called “the Lord,” and the other two “angels”) approached his tent. Abraham invited them to share a meal with him and then later accompanied them for the first part of their journey. Along the way the visitors revealed to Abraham that they were going to Sodom to destroy it for its wickedness. Abraham appealed to the Lord to spare the city if even a few righteous lived there, and the Lord agreed and went his way. The two angels arrived at Sodom in the evening (Genesis 19:1), presumably the same day they left, although perhaps they actually took more than one day to travel to Sodom, because the distance from Mamre to Sodom is over 35 miles (56 km), and Scripture does not specifically note that it was the same day. The events that followed that evening are well known, and in the morning the angels compelled Lot and his family to flee the city before it was destroyed. The angels instructed them to flee to the hills, but Lot convinced them to allow him to take refuge in a small village on the plain and not destroy it. Genesis 19:23 seems to suggest that it took Lot’s family a full day and night to reach Zoar, which fits well with the 16 mile (25 km) distance from Sodom to Zoar. As they were reaching Zoar, the Lord rained down fire and burning sulfur on Sodom, Gomorrah, Admah, and Zeboiim, completely destroying them. As Lot’s family was still fleeing, Lot’s wife looked back and turned into a pillar of salt. That same morning Abraham got up and went to where he had last spoken with the visitors, and when he looked out across the plain he saw columns of smoke rising from the destroyed cities. Later Lot and his daughters moved into the hills and lived in a cave, because they were afraid to remain in Zoar. Fearing they would never marry, Lot’s daughters both got their father drunk and conceived children by him, though he was unaware of it. These children became ancestors of the Moabites and the Ammonites.

BI Gen 18:23 ©