PROV 8:30 Parallel Verse View

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BrLXX ἤμην παρʼ αὐτῷ ἁρμόζουσα· ἐγὼ ἤμην ᾗ προσέχαιρε· καθʼ ἡμέραν δὲ εὐφραινόμην ἐν προσώπῳ αὐτοῦ ἐν παντὶ καιρῷ,
(aʸmaʸn parʼ autōi harmozousa; egō aʸmaʸn haʸ proseⱪaire; kathʼ haʸmeran de eufrainomaʸn en prosōpōi autou en panti kairōi, )

BrTr I was by him, [fn]suiting myself to him, I was that wherein he took delight; and daily I rejoiced in his presence continually.

ULT Then I was beside him as a skilled worker,
⇔ and I was a delight day by day,
⇔ frolicking before his face at every time.

UST At that time I was like someone who was beside Yahweh, skillfully helping him to create everything.
⇔ I made him happy every day.
⇔ I was always rejoicing when I was with him.

OEB No OEB PROV book available

WEBBE then I was the craftsman by his side.
⇔ I was a delight day by day,
⇔ always rejoicing before him,

WMBB (Same as above)

MSG ^(22-31)“God sovereignly made me—the first, the basic—
  before he did anything else.
I was brought into being a long time ago,
  well before Earth got its start.
I arrived on the scene before Ocean,
  yes, even before Springs and Rivers and Lakes.
Before Mountains were sculpted and Hills took shape,
  I was already there, newborn;
Long before God stretched out Earth’s Horizons,
  and tended to the minute details of Soil and Weather,
And set Sky firmly in place,
  I was there.
When he mapped and gave borders to wild Ocean,
  built the vast vault of Heaven,
  and installed the fountains that fed Ocean,
When he drew a boundary for Sea,
  posted a sign that said no trespassing,
And then staked out Earth’s Foundations,
  I was right there with him, making sure everything fit.
Day after day I was there, with my joyful applause,
  always enjoying his company,
Delighted with the world of things and creatures,
  happily celebrating the human family.

NET then I was beside him as a master craftsman,
⇔ and I was his delight day by day,
⇔ rejoicing before him at all times,

LSV Then I am near Him, a workman,
And I am a delight—day by day. Rejoicing before Him at all times,

FBV Then I was beside him as a master craftsman. I made him happy every day, and I was always full of joy in his presence.

T4T I was at the side of Yahweh, the master worker (OR, as though I was his child).
⇔ I caused him to be happy every day, and I was always rejoicing when I was with him.

LEB • I was beside[fn] him, a master workman, and I was delighting day by day,
• rejoicing before him always ,[fn]

8:? Literally “at the place of”

8:? Literally “in all of time”

BBE Then I was by his side, as a master workman: and I was his delight from day to day, playing before him at all times;

Moff I was with him then, his foster-child,
⇔ I was his delight day after day,
⇔ playing in his presence constantly,

JPS Then I was by Him, as a nursling; and I was daily all delight, playing always before Him,

ASV Then I was by him, as a master workman;
⇔ And I was daily his delight,
⇔ Rejoicing always before him,

DRA I was with him forming all things: and was delighted every day, playing before him at all times;

YLT Then I am near Him, a workman, And I am a delight — day by day. Rejoicing before Him at all times,

Drby then I was by him [his] nursling, and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;

RV Then I was by him, as a master workman: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;

SLT And I shall be near him the builder, and I shall be a delight of day, day, smiling before him in all time.

Wbstr Then I was by him, as one brought up with him : and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;

KJB-1769 Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;

KJB-1611 Then I was by him, as one brought vp with him: and I was daily his delight, reioycing alwayes before him:
(Modernised spelling is same as from KJB-1769 above, apart from punctuation)

Bshps I was with him ordring all thinges, deliting dayly and reioysyng alway before hym.
(I was with him orderng all things, deliting daily and reioysing always before him.)

Gnva Then was I with him as a nourisher, and I was dayly his delight reioycing alway before him,
(Then was I with him as a nourisher, and I was daily his delight rejoicing always before him, )

Cvdl I was with him, ordringe all thinges, delytinge daylie & reioysynge allwaye before him.
(I was with him, ordernge all things, delytinge daily and reioysing always before him.)

Wycl Y was making alle thingis with him. And Y delitide bi alle daies, and pleiede bifore hym in al tyme,
(I was making all things with him. And I delighted by all days, and pleiede before him in all time,)

Luth da war ich der Werkmeister bei ihm und hatte meine Lust täglich und spielte vor ihm allezeit
(there what/which I the/of_the workmeister at/in him and had my desire/lust(n) daily and played before/in_front_of him at_all_times)

ClVg cum eo eram, cuncta componens. Et delectabar per singulos dies, ludens coram eo omni tempore,
(when/with by_him eram, everything componens. And delectabar through each_one days, playing before by_him all at_the_time, )

SOTN SIL Open Translator’s Notes:

Section 8:1–36: Wisdom calls out to people and reminds them of the benefits of being wise

In contrast to the previous section describing the adulterous woman, this section describes personified Wisdom. The public setting for Wisdom’s speech is described in 8:1–3. In 8:4–11, she addresses all mankind and describes her own character. In 8:12–21, she provides reasons why people should choose her. Additional motivation is given in 8:22–31: Wisdom was with the LORD when he created the world. The section ends with Wisdom appealing to mankind to follow her teaching (8:32–36).

This section is a speech by personified Wisdom. As in Wisdom’s speech in 1:20–33, the Notes have used a capital letter for Wisdom in most verses. However, in her speech, Wisdom sometimes refers to “wisdom” as an ability that people have or use or should try to obtain. In some of these contexts, the Notes have used small letters for “wisdom.” The Display will often give more than one option. You may use either option in your language, depending on what is appropriate in each context.

Some other headings for this section are:

Wisdom’s Call (NIV)

Listen to Wisdom (NCV)

The good qualities of Wisdom

Wisdom’s second invitation to people

Paragraph 8:22–31

In this paragraph, Wisdom gives additional reasons why people should choose her. The LORD created Wisdom before anything else (8:22–26), and she was present with the LORD when he created the world (8:27–29). She also delighted in what the LORD created (8:30–31).

8:30

In this verse, the first line contains a metaphor that compares Wisdom to a craftsman. The next two lines describe her attitude as a craftsman, both giving happiness and being made happy.

^30aThen I was a skilled craftsman at His side,

^30band His delight day by day,

^30c rejoicing always in His presence.

8:30a

Then I was a skilled craftsman at His side,

When he created all these things, I was his companion, a skilled designer/workman.
When he created all these things, I accompanied him and helped him to plan and create.

Then I was a skilled craftsman at His side: The word craftsman refers to someone who is skilled in designing or making things.Another interpretation, that this word means nursing child, is followed by the NCV, but most versions follow the interpretation of “craftsman” along with many scholars. Fox (pages 285–287) has one of the most complete discussions of the options, and advocates a variant of the interpretation “nursling” (I was with him growing up). His arguments are persuasive but are not followed by any of the versions, so his position is not discussed in the notes. Some languages do not have technical terms such as “architect” or “craftsman” or do not use metaphors. If this is true in your language, you may be able to use one of the following options:

Change the metaphor to a simile. For example:
I was beside him like an architect (GNT)
Use a descriptive phrase. For example:
I was right beside the Lord helping him plan and build (CEV)

8:30b

and His delight day by day,

Each day I made him happy.
I was his continual source of happiness.

and His delight day by day: In Hebrew, this clause is literally “I was delights day day.” There are two ways to interpret this clause:

Wisdom was an object or source of delight to the LORD. For example:
I was his daily source of joy (GNT) (BSB, GNT, RSV, REB, NJB, NLT, CEV)
Wisdom was delighted. For example:
I was delighted every day (NCV) (NCV, NIV)

It is recommended that you follow interpretation (1), along with most versions and scholars. The LXX has “his,” and “his” delight is also implicit in Hebrew.UBS, Whybray, Fox, and an NET footnote all describe wisdom as the source or object of the LORD’s delight. Another way to translate this clause is:

I made him happy each day. (CEV)

day by day: This word can also be translated as “always” or “constantly.” For example:

I was his constant delight. (NLT)

8:30c

rejoicing always in His presence.

And I likewise always rejoiced at being in his presence.
And I also continually enjoyed being with him.

rejoicing always in His presence: Verse 8:30b talks about Wisdom giving the LORD happiness, but 8:30c talks about Wisdom’s happiness. The verb rejoicing can mean “playing” or “dancing.” But here, it should probably be understood in the general sense of “rejoicing,” “acting joyfully,” or “celebrating.” The first thing that Wisdom rejoiced about was simply being in the LORD’s presence. Other ways to translate this phrase are:

enjoying his presence all the time (NCV)

I was always happy at his side

UTN uW Translation Notes:

Note 1 topic: figures-of-speech / personification

וָֽ⁠אֶהְיֶ֥ה אֶצְל֗⁠וֹ אָ֫מ֥וֹן

and,I_was beside,him master_workman

Here Yahweh using wisdom to create the universe is spoken of as if Wisdom were a skilled worker who was beside him. If it would be helpful in your language, you could express the meaning plainly or use a simile. Alternate translation: “Then he used wisdom skillfully” or “Then I was like a skilled worker beside him”

Note 2 topic: figures-of-speech / abstractnouns

שַׁ֭עֲשֻׁעִים

delight

If your language does not use an abstract noun for the idea of delight, you could express the same idea in another way. Alternate translation: “delightful”

Note 3 topic: figures-of-speech / explicit

מְשַׂחֶ֖קֶת

rejoicing

Here, frolicking refers to dancing or playing in a way that expresses great joy. If it would be helpful in your language, you could express the meaning plainly. Alternate translation: “acting joyfully”

Note 4 topic: figures-of-speech / metonymy

לְ⁠פָנָ֣י⁠ו

before,,him