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Parallel GEN 34:23

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BI Gen 34:23 ©

Text critical issues=none Clarity of original=clearImportance=normal(All still tentative.)

OET (OET-RV)Won’t all of their livestock and their property and all their animals then belong to us? So let’s agree with their condition and then they’ll settle among us.”

OET-LVLivestock_their and_property_their and_all animals_their am_not to/for_us [will]_they only let_us_agree to/for_them and_live among_us.

UHBמִקְנֵ⁠הֶ֤ם וְ⁠קִנְיָנָ⁠ם֙ וְ⁠כָל־בְּהֶמְתָּ֔⁠ם הֲ⁠ל֥וֹא לָ֖⁠נוּ הֵ֑ם אַ֚ךְ נֵא֣וֹתָה לָ⁠הֶ֔ם וְ⁠יֵשְׁב֖וּ אִתָּֽ⁠נוּ׃
   (miqnē⁠hem və⁠qinyānā⁠m və⁠kāl-bəhemtā⁠m hₐ⁠lōʼ lā⁠nū hēm ʼak nēʼōtāh lā⁠hem və⁠yēshəⱱū ʼittā⁠nū.)

Key: khaki:verbs, red:negative.
Note: Automatic aligning of the OET-RV to the LV is done by some temporary software, hence the OET-RV alignments are incomplete (and may occasionally be wrong).

BrLXXΚαὶ τὰ κτήνη αὐτῶν, καὶ τὰ τετράποδα, καὶ τὰ ὑπάρχοντα αὐτῶν, οὐχ ἡμῶν ἔσται; μόνον ἐν τούτῳ ὁμοιωθῶμεν αὐτοῖς, καὶ οἰκήσουσι μεθʼ ἡμῶν.
   (Kai ta ktaʸnaʸ autōn, kai ta tetrapoda, kai ta huparⱪonta autōn, ouⱪ haʸmōn estai; monon en toutōi homoiōthōmen autois, kai oikaʸsousi methʼ haʸmōn. )

BrTrAnd shall not their cattle and their [fn]herds, and their possessions, be ours? only in this let us conform to them, and they will dwell with us.


34:23 Gr. quadrupeds.

ULTTheir livestock and their property and all their animals, will they not belong to us? Only let us consent with them, and they will settle with us!”

USTBut if we do that, all their property, including their livestock and all their other animals will belong to us! So let’s just agree to do what they require so that they will live among us!”

BSBWill not their livestock, their possessions, and all their animals become ours? Only let us consent to them, and they will dwell among us.”


OEBShouldn’t their cattle and their goods and all their beasts be ours? Let us make an alliance with them so that they will live with us.’

WEBBEWon’t their livestock and their possessions and all their animals be ours? Only let’s give our consent to them, and they will dwell with us.”

WMBB (Same as above)

NETIf we do so, won’t their livestock, their property, and all their animals become ours? So let’s consent to their demand, so they will live among us.”

LSVtheir livestock, and their substance, and all their beasts—are they not ours? Only let us consent to them, and they dwell with us.”

FBVIf that happens, won't all their livestock and property—all their animals—end up belonging to us? We just have to agree to this and they will come and live among us.”

T4TBut if we do that, just think! Their livestock and their possessions and their other animals will become ours [RHQ]! So we should agree to do what they suggest, and then they will live among us!”

LEBWill not their livestock and their property and all their animals be ours? Only let us give consent to them so they will live among us.”

BBEThen will not their cattle and their goods and all their beasts be ours? so let us come to an agreement with them so that they may go on living with us.

MoffNo Moff GEN book available

JPSShall not their cattle and their substance and all their beasts be ours? only let us consent unto them, and they will dwell with us.'

ASVShall not their cattle and their substance and all their beasts be ours? only let us consent unto them, and they will dwell with us.

DRAAnd their substance, and cattle, and all that they possess, shall be ours: only in this let us condescend, and by dwelling together, we shall make one people.

YLTtheir cattle, and their substance, and all their beasts — are they not ours? only let us consent to them, and they dwell with us.'

DrbyTheir cattle, and their possessions, and every beast of theirs, shall they not be ours? only let us consent to them, and they will dwell with us.

RVShall not their cattle and their substance and all their beasts be ours? only let us consent unto them, and they will dwell with us.

WbstrWill not their cattle, and their substance, and every beast of theirs be ours? only let us consent to them, and they will dwell with us.

KJB-1769Shall not their cattle and their substance and every beast of theirs be ours? only let us consent unto them, and they will dwell with us.

KJB-1611Shall not their cattell, and their substance, and euery beast of theirs bee ours? onely let vs consent vnto them, and they will dwell with vs.
   (Shall not their cattle, and their substance, and every beast of theirs be ours? only let us consent unto them, and they will dwell with us.)

BshpsShall not their goodes and their substaunce, and all their cattell be ours? let vs only consent vnto them, and they will dwell with vs.
   (Shall not their goodes and their substance, and all their cattle be ours? let us only consent unto them, and they will dwell with us.)

GnvaShall not their flockes and their substance and all their cattell be ours? onely let vs consent herein vnto them, and they will dwell with vs.
   (Shall not their flocks and their substance and all their cattle be ours? only let us consent herein unto them, and they will dwell with us. )

Cvdltheir catell and goodes, and all that they haue, shalbe ours, yf we consent vnto them, that they maye dwel with vs.
   (their cattle and goodes, and all that they have, shall be ours, if we consent unto them, that they may dwell with us.)

Wycbothe her substaunce, and scheep, and alle thingis which thei welden, schulen be oure; oneli assente we in this, that we dwelle to gidere, and make o puple.
   (bothe her substance, and sheep, and all things which they welden, should be oure; oneli assente we in this, that we dwell together, and make o puple.)

LuthIhr Vieh und Güter und alles, was sie haben wird unser sein, so wir nur ihnen zu Willen werden, daß sie bei uns wohnen.
   (You Vieh and Güter and alles, what/which they/she/them have becomes unser sein, so we/us nur to_them to Willen become, that they/she/them at us/to_us/ourselves reside.)

ClVgEt substantia eorum, et pecora, et cuncta quæ possident, nostra erunt: tantum in hoc acquiescamus, et habitantes simul, unum efficiemus populum.
   (And substantia their, and pecora, and cuncta which possident, nostra erunt: only in this acquiescamus, and habitantes simul, one efficiemus the_people. )


TSNTyndale Study Notes:

34:1-31 Once Jacob and his family settled in the land, the Canaanite presence became a threat. This account is a stern warning to the Israelites about the possibility of their being defiled by the Canaanites. The nation of Israel was later commanded not to intermarry or make treaties with them, for they were a corrupt and corrupting people. This chapter implicitly warns against becoming familiar with the way they lived (34:1-2). It also taught Israel that in dealing with the Canaanites, they were to keep their integrity and not use the holy things of the covenant for deception and slaughter (34:13); Israel’s reputation was at stake in the land (34:30). For their ruthless violence, Simeon and Levi were passed over in the birthright blessing (49:5-7).


UTNuW Translation Notes:

מִקְנֵ⁠הֶ֤ם וְ⁠קִנְיָנָ⁠ם֙ וְ⁠כָל בְּהֶמְתָּ֔⁠ם

livestock,their and,property,their and=all animals,their

Alternate translation: “Then all their livestock and animals, and all their other property” or “But if we do that, all their possessions, including their livestock and all their other animals”

Note 1 topic: figures-of-speech / rquestion

הֲ⁠ל֥וֹא לָ֖⁠נוּ הֵ֑ם

am=not to/for=us they

This rhetorical question emphasizes that all of Jacob’s livestock and property will belong to the people of Shechem. If a rhetorical question does not fit here in your language, you could make this a statement. Alternate translation: “will be ours!”

אַ֚ךְ נֵא֣וֹתָה לָ⁠הֶ֔ם

only agree to/for=them

Alternate translation: “So we should just do what they propose”

וְ⁠יֵשְׁב֖וּ אִתָּֽ⁠נוּ

and,live among,us

See how you translated settle with us in verses 10 and 22. Alternate translation: “so that they will settle among us!”


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Jacob Travels to Southern Canaan

Genesis 32-36

As with many of the stories of the Bible, the events of Jacob’s life are often misunderstood by readers as disjointed pericopes arranged primarily for theological and cultural purposes. Because of this, readers often fail to see that these stories follow a clear geographical progression of the patriarch throughout the land of Canaan. This realistic and coherent geographical framework behind the stories gives strong support to the belief that these stories are authentic, historical accounts of the experiences of Jacob and his ancestors. The overall framework for virtually all of Jacob’s stories is very simple: Jacob is born and raised in southern Canaan but comes into conflict with his twin brother Esau, so he flees to Paddan-aram in Mesopotamia (Genesis 25-28; see “Jacob Goes to Paddan-Aram” map). There he builds a large family and great wealth (Genesis 29-30) and eventually returns to southern Canaan, likely retracing the exact steps he followed when he fled (Genesis 31-35; see also “Jacob Returns to Canaan” map). During this time, Esau moves to the hill country of Seir, likely just south of southern Canaan (“Edom and the Land of Seir” map), and establishes his own family there, giving rise to the nation of Edom (Genesis 36). Though the primary intent of Jacob’s return was no doubt to resettle in Canaan, comments made during his reunion with Esau near Peniel may reveal that he also intended to travel even further to Seir to visit his brother there (Genesis 33:12-14). After crossing from Mahanaim to Peniel in Gilead, Jacob reunites with Esau and settles in Succoth for a time and builds a house for himself and booths for his cattle. He eventually crosses the Jordan River and enters Canaan, stopping first at the ancient city of Shechem. There Jacob’s daughter Dinah is defiled by the son of the region’s leader, and her brothers take revenge by killing all the men of the city. Thus, Jacob is forced to leave, but first he calls upon all his household to purify themselves. He collects their idols and rings and buries them beneath a tree in Shechem. Upon reaching Bethel, Jacob builds an altar and calls it El-bethel. The nurse of Jacob’s mother Rebekah also dies at Bethel and is buried under an oak below the town, leading them to call the place Allon-bacuth (“oak of weeping”). Jacob and his family leave for Bethlehem, but very soon after they start the journey Rachel gives birth to Benjamin and then dies. Jacob buries her along the way, apparently near a place called Zelzah (or perhaps Elzah; see 1 Samuel 10 and “Saul Search for His Donkeys” map). Jacob continues on and camps beyond the tower of Eder, perhaps near Bethlehem, since that seems to have been his original destination. Finally Jacob reaches Mamre and Hebron. Soon after this Isaac dies, and Esau and Jacob bury him. The story of Jacob’s journey ends at Genesis 35, and we are not explicitly told if Jacob traveled even further to Seir. Genesis 36, however, catalogs the descendants of Esau, the Edomites, perhaps indicating that Jacob did indeed fulfill the intentions he stated in Genesis 33:12-14.

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Isaac’s Travels

Genesis 21-35

Though the patriarch Isaac moved from place to place several times within southern Canaan, compared to his father Abraham and his son Jacob, Isaac appears to have been a bit of a homebody. In fact, unless Isaac resettled in places not recorded in Scripture, the farthest extent he ever traveled appears to have been only about 90 miles (113 km). Yet, as the child of God’s promise to Abraham to build a great nation from his descendants, Isaac’s relatively simple life served as a critical bridge from Abraham to the beginnings of the twelve tribes of Israel, who were descended from Isaac’s son Jacob. It is likely that Isaac was born at Beersheba (see Genesis 21:1-24), and later Abraham offered him as a sacrifice on Mount Moriah (located at Jerusalem; see 2 Chronicles 3:1). Then Abraham, Isaac, and those with them returned to Beersheba (Genesis 22:1-19). When Isaac reached adulthood, his father sent a servant to bring back a bride for him from Aram-naharaim, far north of Canaan. When his bride, Rebekah, arrived, Isaac had just come from Beer-lahai-roi and settled in the Negev (Genesis 24:62). Later Isaac resettled with Rebekah in Beer-lahai-roi, and this may have been where their twins son Esau and Jacob were born. A famine forced Isaac to go to Gerar (Genesis 26:1-6) in “the land of the Philistines.” The distinct people group known as the Philistines in later books of the Bible did not arrive until the time of the Judges, so the term here must have referred to another people group living in this region, and this is supported by the fact that King Abimelech’s name is Semitic, not Aegean (the likely origin of the later Philistines). While Isaac was there, he repeated his father’s error (Genesis 20) by lying to the king that his wife was only his sister. Isaac also became increasingly prosperous at Gerar, so the Philistines told him to leave their region. Isaac moved away from the town of Gerar and settled further away in the valley of Gerar. There he dug a well, but the Philistines claimed it for themselves, so he called it Esek, meaning “argument.” So Isaac’s men dug another well and called it Sitnah (meaning “hostility”), but it led to more quarreling, so he dug yet another well and called it Rehoboth (meaning “open space”). The locations of these two later wells are not certain, but they may have been located near Ruheibeh as shown on this map. Then Isaac moved to Beersheba and built an altar. He also dug a well there, and King Abimelech of the Philistines came and exchanged oaths of peace with him. It was likely at Beersheba that Isaac blessed his sons Esau and Jacob, and both sons eventually left Canaan (see “Jacob Goes to Paddan-Aram” map). When Jacob later returned, he traveled to Mamre near Hebron and reunited with Isaac. Sometime after this Isaac died, and Jacob and Esau buried him there.

BI Gen 34:23 ©