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Parallel GEN 34:17

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BI Gen 34:17 ©

Text critical issues=none Clarity of original=clearImportance=normal(All still tentative.)

OET (OET-RV)But if you all won’t agree to get circumcised, then we’ll just take Dinah and go.”

OET-LVAnd_if not you_all_will_listen to_us to_circumcised and_take DOM daughter_our and_go.

UHBוְ⁠אִם־לֹ֧א תִשְׁמְע֛וּ אֵלֵ֖י⁠נוּ לְ⁠הִמּ֑וֹל וְ⁠לָקַ֥חְנוּ אֶת־בִּתֵּ֖⁠נוּ וְ⁠הָלָֽכְנוּ׃
   (və⁠ʼim-loʼ tishməˊū ʼēlēy⁠nū lə⁠himmōl və⁠lāqaḩnū ʼet-bittē⁠nū və⁠hālākə.)

Key: khaki:verbs, red:negative.
Note: Automatic aligning of the OET-RV to the LV is done by some temporary software, hence the OET-RV alignments are incomplete (and may occasionally be wrong).

BrLXXἘὰν δὲ μὴ εἰσακούσητε ἡμῶν τοῦ περιτεμέσθαι, λαβόντες τὴν θυγατέρα ἡμῶν ἀπελευσόμεθα.
   (Ean de maʸ eisakousaʸte haʸmōn tou peritemesthai, labontes taʸn thugatera haʸmōn apeleusometha. )

BrTrBut if ye will not hearken to us to be circumcised, we will take our daughter and depart.

ULTBut if you will not listen to us to be circumcised, then we will take our daughter and go.”

USTHowever if you refuse to agree with our requirement that you circumcise your people, then we will take our sister and move somewhere else.”

BSBBut if you will not agree to be circumcised, then we will take our sister and go.”


OEBBut if you will not listen to us and allow yourselves to be circumcised, then we will take Dinah and be gone.’

WEBBEBut if you will not listen to us and be circumcised, then we will take our sister,[fn] and we will be gone.”


34:17 Hebrew has, literally, “daughter”

WMBB (Same as above including footnotes)

NETBut if you do not agree to our terms by being circumcised, then we will take our sister and depart.”

LSVand if you do not listen to us to be circumcised, then we have taken our daughter, and have gone.”

FBVBut if you don't agree with us that you should be circumcised, then we'll take our sister and leave.”

T4TBut if you will not agree to being circumcised, we will take our sister and go back to our land.”

LEBBut if you will not listen to us, to be circumcised, then we will take our daughters and we will go.”

BBEBut if you will not undergo circumcision as we say, then we will take our daughter and go.

MoffNo Moff GEN book available

JPSBut if ye will not hearken unto us, to be circumcised; then will we take our daughter, and we will be gone.'

ASVBut if ye will not hearken unto us, to be circumcised; then will we take our daughter, and we will be gone.

DRABut if you will not be circumcised, we will take our daughter and depart:

YLTand if ye hearken not unto us to be circumcised, then we have taken our daughter, and have gone.'

DrbyBut if ye do not hearken to us, to be circumcised, then will we take our daughter and go away.

RVBut if ye will not hearken unto us, to be circumcised; then will we take our daughter, and we will be gone.

WbstrBut if ye will not hearken to us, to be circumcised; then will we take our daughter, and we will be gone.

KJB-1769But if ye will not hearken unto us, to be circumcised; then will we take our daughter, and we will be gone.
   (But if ye/you_all will not hearken unto us, to be circumcised; then will we take our daughter, and we will be gone. )

KJB-1611But if ye will not hearken vnto vs, to be circumcised, then will we take our daughter, and we will be gone.
   (Modernised spelling is same as from KJB-1769 above, apart from punctuation)

BshpsBut and if ye wyll not hearken vnto vs to be circumcised, then wyll we take our daughter, and go our wayes.
   (But and if ye/you_all will not hearken unto us to be circumcised, then will we take our daughter, and go our ways.)

GnvaBut if ye will not hearken vnto vs to be circumcised, then will we take our daughter and depart.
   (But if ye/you_all will not hearken unto us to be circumcised, then will we take our daughter and depart. )

CvdlBut yf ye wyll not herken vnto vs, to be circumcided, then wyl we take oure doughter, and go oure waye.
   (But if ye/you_all will not herken unto us, to be circumcided, then will we take our daughter, and go our way.)

WyclForsothe if ye nylen be circumcidid, we schulen take oure douytir, and schulen go a wei.
   (Forsothe if ye/you_all nylen be circumcidid, we should take our douytir, and should go a wei.)

LuthWo ihr aber nicht willigen wollet, euch zu beschneiden, so wollen wir unsere Tochter nehmen und davonziehen.
   (Where you/their/her but not willigen wollet, you to beschneiden, so wollen we/us unsere Tochter take and davonziehen.)

ClVgSi autem circumcidi nolueritis, tollemus filiam nostram, et recedemus.
   (When/But_if however circumcidi nolueritis, tollemus daughterm nostram, and recedemus. )


TSNTyndale Study Notes:

34:1-31 Once Jacob and his family settled in the land, the Canaanite presence became a threat. This account is a stern warning to the Israelites about the possibility of their being defiled by the Canaanites. The nation of Israel was later commanded not to intermarry or make treaties with them, for they were a corrupt and corrupting people. This chapter implicitly warns against becoming familiar with the way they lived (34:1-2). It also taught Israel that in dealing with the Canaanites, they were to keep their integrity and not use the holy things of the covenant for deception and slaughter (34:13); Israel’s reputation was at stake in the land (34:30). For their ruthless violence, Simeon and Levi were passed over in the birthright blessing (49:5-7).


UTNuW Translation Notes:

וְ⁠אִם לֹ֧א תִשְׁמְע֛וּ אֵלֵ֖י⁠נוּ לְ⁠הִמּ֑וֹל

and=if not listen to,us to,circumcised

Alternate translation: “But if you refuse to agree with our requirement that you circumcise your males,” or “But if you do not circumcise your males as we say,”

וְ⁠לָקַ֥חְנוּ אֶת בִּתֵּ֖⁠נוּ וְ⁠הָלָֽכְנוּ

and,take DOM daughter,our and,go

The phrase our daughter reflects the fact that Jacob’s sons are using their father’s perspective and authority here. If that is confusing, you could say “our sister” instead. See how you translated “our family’s daughter” in verse 8. Alternate translation: “then we will leave and take our sister with us.”


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Jacob Travels to Southern Canaan

Genesis 32-36

As with many of the stories of the Bible, the events of Jacob’s life are often misunderstood by readers as disjointed pericopes arranged primarily for theological and cultural purposes. Because of this, readers often fail to see that these stories follow a clear geographical progression of the patriarch throughout the land of Canaan. This realistic and coherent geographical framework behind the stories gives strong support to the belief that these stories are authentic, historical accounts of the experiences of Jacob and his ancestors. The overall framework for virtually all of Jacob’s stories is very simple: Jacob is born and raised in southern Canaan but comes into conflict with his twin brother Esau, so he flees to Paddan-aram in Mesopotamia (Genesis 25-28; see “Jacob Goes to Paddan-Aram” map). There he builds a large family and great wealth (Genesis 29-30) and eventually returns to southern Canaan, likely retracing the exact steps he followed when he fled (Genesis 31-35; see also “Jacob Returns to Canaan” map). During this time, Esau moves to the hill country of Seir, likely just south of southern Canaan (“Edom and the Land of Seir” map), and establishes his own family there, giving rise to the nation of Edom (Genesis 36). Though the primary intent of Jacob’s return was no doubt to resettle in Canaan, comments made during his reunion with Esau near Peniel may reveal that he also intended to travel even further to Seir to visit his brother there (Genesis 33:12-14). After crossing from Mahanaim to Peniel in Gilead, Jacob reunites with Esau and settles in Succoth for a time and builds a house for himself and booths for his cattle. He eventually crosses the Jordan River and enters Canaan, stopping first at the ancient city of Shechem. There Jacob’s daughter Dinah is defiled by the son of the region’s leader, and her brothers take revenge by killing all the men of the city. Thus, Jacob is forced to leave, but first he calls upon all his household to purify themselves. He collects their idols and rings and buries them beneath a tree in Shechem. Upon reaching Bethel, Jacob builds an altar and calls it El-bethel. The nurse of Jacob’s mother Rebekah also dies at Bethel and is buried under an oak below the town, leading them to call the place Allon-bacuth (“oak of weeping”). Jacob and his family leave for Bethlehem, but very soon after they start the journey Rachel gives birth to Benjamin and then dies. Jacob buries her along the way, apparently near a place called Zelzah (or perhaps Elzah; see 1 Samuel 10 and “Saul Search for His Donkeys” map). Jacob continues on and camps beyond the tower of Eder, perhaps near Bethlehem, since that seems to have been his original destination. Finally Jacob reaches Mamre and Hebron. Soon after this Isaac dies, and Esau and Jacob bury him. The story of Jacob’s journey ends at Genesis 35, and we are not explicitly told if Jacob traveled even further to Seir. Genesis 36, however, catalogs the descendants of Esau, the Edomites, perhaps indicating that Jacob did indeed fulfill the intentions he stated in Genesis 33:12-14.

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Isaac’s Travels

Genesis 21-35

Though the patriarch Isaac moved from place to place several times within southern Canaan, compared to his father Abraham and his son Jacob, Isaac appears to have been a bit of a homebody. In fact, unless Isaac resettled in places not recorded in Scripture, the farthest extent he ever traveled appears to have been only about 90 miles (113 km). Yet, as the child of God’s promise to Abraham to build a great nation from his descendants, Isaac’s relatively simple life served as a critical bridge from Abraham to the beginnings of the twelve tribes of Israel, who were descended from Isaac’s son Jacob. It is likely that Isaac was born at Beersheba (see Genesis 21:1-24), and later Abraham offered him as a sacrifice on Mount Moriah (located at Jerusalem; see 2 Chronicles 3:1). Then Abraham, Isaac, and those with them returned to Beersheba (Genesis 22:1-19). When Isaac reached adulthood, his father sent a servant to bring back a bride for him from Aram-naharaim, far north of Canaan. When his bride, Rebekah, arrived, Isaac had just come from Beer-lahai-roi and settled in the Negev (Genesis 24:62). Later Isaac resettled with Rebekah in Beer-lahai-roi, and this may have been where their twins son Esau and Jacob were born. A famine forced Isaac to go to Gerar (Genesis 26:1-6) in “the land of the Philistines.” The distinct people group known as the Philistines in later books of the Bible did not arrive until the time of the Judges, so the term here must have referred to another people group living in this region, and this is supported by the fact that King Abimelech’s name is Semitic, not Aegean (the likely origin of the later Philistines). While Isaac was there, he repeated his father’s error (Genesis 20) by lying to the king that his wife was only his sister. Isaac also became increasingly prosperous at Gerar, so the Philistines told him to leave their region. Isaac moved away from the town of Gerar and settled further away in the valley of Gerar. There he dug a well, but the Philistines claimed it for themselves, so he called it Esek, meaning “argument.” So Isaac’s men dug another well and called it Sitnah (meaning “hostility”), but it led to more quarreling, so he dug yet another well and called it Rehoboth (meaning “open space”). The locations of these two later wells are not certain, but they may have been located near Ruheibeh as shown on this map. Then Isaac moved to Beersheba and built an altar. He also dug a well there, and King Abimelech of the Philistines came and exchanged oaths of peace with him. It was likely at Beersheba that Isaac blessed his sons Esau and Jacob, and both sons eventually left Canaan (see “Jacob Goes to Paddan-Aram” map). When Jacob later returned, he traveled to Mamre near Hebron and reunited with Isaac. Sometime after this Isaac died, and Jacob and Esau buried him there.

BI Gen 34:17 ©