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Parallel GEN 34:15

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BI Gen 34:15 ©

Text critical issues=none Clarity of original=clearImportance=normal(All still tentative.)

OET (OET-RV)We’d only consent to your proposal if you’d become like us by circumcising every male among you,

OET-LVOnly in/on/at/with_this we_will_agree to/for_you_all if you_all_will_be like_us to_circumcised to/for_you_all every male.

UHBאַךְ־בְּ⁠זֹ֖את נֵא֣וֹת לָ⁠כֶ֑ם אִ֚ם תִּהְי֣וּ כָמֹ֔⁠נוּ לְ⁠הִמֹּ֥ל לָ⁠כֶ֖ם כָּל־זָכָֽר׃
   (ʼak-bə⁠zoʼt nēʼōt lā⁠kem ʼim tihyū kāmo⁠nū lə⁠himmol lā⁠kem kāl-zākār.)

Key: khaki:verbs.
Note: Automatic aligning of the OET-RV to the LV is done by some temporary software, hence the OET-RV alignments are incomplete (and may occasionally be wrong).

BrLXXΜόνον ἐν τούτῳ ὁμοιωθησόμεθα ὑμῖν, καὶ κατοικήσομεν ἐν ὑμῖν, ἐὰν γένησθε ὡς ἡμεῖς καὶ ὑμεῖς, ἐν τῷ περιτμηθῆναι ὑμῶν πᾶν ἀρσενικόν.
   (Monon en toutōi homoiōthaʸsometha humin, kai katoikaʸsomen en humin, ean genaʸsthe hōs haʸmeis kai humeis, en tōi peritmaʸthaʸnai humōn pan arsenikon. )

BrTrOnly on these terms will we conform to you, and dwell among you, if ye also will be as we are, in that every male of you be circumcised.

ULTOnly on this condition will we consent with you: if you become like us by every male among you being circumcised.

USTThe only way that we can agree with your proposal is if first you and your people become like us by circumcising all of your males.

BSBWe will consent to this on one condition, that you become circumcised like us—every one of your males.


OEBOnly on this condition will we make an alliance with you: if you will be as we are, in that every male of you be circumcised.

WEBBEOnly on this condition will we consent to you. If you will be as we are, that every male of you be circumcised,

WMBB (Same as above)

NETWe will give you our consent on this one condition: You must become like us by circumcising all your males.

LSVOnly for this we consent to you: if you are as we, to have every male of you circumcised,

FBVWe will only agree to it with this condition: all of you must be circumcised like us.

T4TWe will do that only if you do one thing: You must become like us by circumcising all the males that are among you.

LEBOnly on this condition will we give consent to you; if you will become like us—every male among you to be circumcised.

BBEBut on this condition only will we come to an agreement with you: if every male among you becomes like us and undergoes circumcision;

MoffNo Moff GEN book available

JPSOnly on this condition will we consent unto you: if ye will be as we are, that every male of you be circumcised;

ASVOnly on this condition will we consent unto you: if ye will be as we are, that every male of you be circumcised;

DRABut in this we may be allied with you, if you will be like us, and all the male sex among you be circumcised:

YLT'Only for this we consent to you; if ye be as we, to have every male of you circumcised,

DrbyBut only in this will we consent to you, if ye will be as we, that every male of you be circumcised;

RVOnly on this condition will we consent unto you: if ye will be as we be, that every male of you be circumcised;

WbstrBut in this will we consent to you: If ye will be as we are, that every male of you shall be circumcised;

KJB-1769But in this will we consent unto you: If ye will be as we be, that every male of you be circumcised;
   (But in this will we consent unto you: If ye/you_all will be as we be, that every male of you be circumcised; )

KJB-1611But in this will we consent vnto you: If ye will be as we be, that euery male of you be circumcised:
   (Modernised spelling is same as from KJB-1769 above, apart from punctuation)

BshpsBut in this will we consent vnto you: if ye wyll be as we be, & all the males amongest you be circumcised:
   (But in this will we consent unto you: if ye/you_all will be as we be, and all the males amongst you be circumcised:)

GnvaBut in this will we consent vnto you, if ye will be as we are, that euery man childe among you be circumcised:
   (But in this will we consent unto you, if ye/you_all will be as we are, that every man child among you be circumcised: )

CvdlNeuertheles we wyll consente vnto you, yf ye wylbe like vnto vs, and be circumcided as many as are males amonge you:
   (Nevertheless we will consente unto you, if ye/you_all wylbe like unto us, and be circumcided as many as are males among you:)

WyclBut in this we schulen mowe be boundun in pees, if ye wole be lijk vs, and ech of male kynde be circumcidid in you,
   (But in this we should more be bound in peace, if ye/you_all will be like us, and each of male kind be circumcidid in you,)

LuthDoch dann wollen wir euch zu Willen sein, so ihr uns gleich werdet und alles, was männlich unter euch ist, beschnitten werde.
   (Doch dann wollen we/us you to Willen sein, so you/their/her us/to_us/ourselves gleich becomet and all/everything, what/which männlich under you is, beschnitten become.)

ClVgSed in hoc valebimus fœderari, si volueritis esse similes nostri, et circumcidatur in vobis omne masculini sexus;
   (But in this valebimus fœderari, when/but_if volueritis esse similes nostri, and circumcidatur in to_you omne masculini sexus; )


TSNTyndale Study Notes:

34:1-31 Once Jacob and his family settled in the land, the Canaanite presence became a threat. This account is a stern warning to the Israelites about the possibility of their being defiled by the Canaanites. The nation of Israel was later commanded not to intermarry or make treaties with them, for they were a corrupt and corrupting people. This chapter implicitly warns against becoming familiar with the way they lived (34:1-2). It also taught Israel that in dealing with the Canaanites, they were to keep their integrity and not use the holy things of the covenant for deception and slaughter (34:13); Israel’s reputation was at stake in the land (34:30). For their ruthless violence, Simeon and Levi were passed over in the birthright blessing (49:5-7).


UTNuW Translation Notes:

אַךְ בְּ⁠זֹ֖את נֵא֣וֹת לָ⁠כֶ֑ם

only in/on/at/with,this consent to/for=you_all

Alternate translation: “The only way that we will agree with your proposal is” or “We will do what you ask only if you do this one thing:”

אִ֚ם תִּהְי֣וּ כָמֹ֔⁠נוּ

if become like,us

Alternate translation: “You and your people must first become like us”

Note 1 topic: translate-key-terms

לְ⁠הִמֹּ֥ל לָ⁠כֶ֖ם כָּל זָכָֽר

to,circumcised to/for=you_all all/each/any/every male

See how you translated circumcised in Gen 17:10. Alternate translation: “by circumcising all your males.”


BMMBibleMapper.com Maps:

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Jacob Travels to Southern Canaan

Genesis 32-36

As with many of the stories of the Bible, the events of Jacob’s life are often misunderstood by readers as disjointed pericopes arranged primarily for theological and cultural purposes. Because of this, readers often fail to see that these stories follow a clear geographical progression of the patriarch throughout the land of Canaan. This realistic and coherent geographical framework behind the stories gives strong support to the belief that these stories are authentic, historical accounts of the experiences of Jacob and his ancestors. The overall framework for virtually all of Jacob’s stories is very simple: Jacob is born and raised in southern Canaan but comes into conflict with his twin brother Esau, so he flees to Paddan-aram in Mesopotamia (Genesis 25-28; see “Jacob Goes to Paddan-Aram” map). There he builds a large family and great wealth (Genesis 29-30) and eventually returns to southern Canaan, likely retracing the exact steps he followed when he fled (Genesis 31-35; see also “Jacob Returns to Canaan” map). During this time, Esau moves to the hill country of Seir, likely just south of southern Canaan (“Edom and the Land of Seir” map), and establishes his own family there, giving rise to the nation of Edom (Genesis 36). Though the primary intent of Jacob’s return was no doubt to resettle in Canaan, comments made during his reunion with Esau near Peniel may reveal that he also intended to travel even further to Seir to visit his brother there (Genesis 33:12-14). After crossing from Mahanaim to Peniel in Gilead, Jacob reunites with Esau and settles in Succoth for a time and builds a house for himself and booths for his cattle. He eventually crosses the Jordan River and enters Canaan, stopping first at the ancient city of Shechem. There Jacob’s daughter Dinah is defiled by the son of the region’s leader, and her brothers take revenge by killing all the men of the city. Thus, Jacob is forced to leave, but first he calls upon all his household to purify themselves. He collects their idols and rings and buries them beneath a tree in Shechem. Upon reaching Bethel, Jacob builds an altar and calls it El-bethel. The nurse of Jacob’s mother Rebekah also dies at Bethel and is buried under an oak below the town, leading them to call the place Allon-bacuth (“oak of weeping”). Jacob and his family leave for Bethlehem, but very soon after they start the journey Rachel gives birth to Benjamin and then dies. Jacob buries her along the way, apparently near a place called Zelzah (or perhaps Elzah; see 1 Samuel 10 and “Saul Search for His Donkeys” map). Jacob continues on and camps beyond the tower of Eder, perhaps near Bethlehem, since that seems to have been his original destination. Finally Jacob reaches Mamre and Hebron. Soon after this Isaac dies, and Esau and Jacob bury him. The story of Jacob’s journey ends at Genesis 35, and we are not explicitly told if Jacob traveled even further to Seir. Genesis 36, however, catalogs the descendants of Esau, the Edomites, perhaps indicating that Jacob did indeed fulfill the intentions he stated in Genesis 33:12-14.

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Isaac’s Travels

Genesis 21-35

Though the patriarch Isaac moved from place to place several times within southern Canaan, compared to his father Abraham and his son Jacob, Isaac appears to have been a bit of a homebody. In fact, unless Isaac resettled in places not recorded in Scripture, the farthest extent he ever traveled appears to have been only about 90 miles (113 km). Yet, as the child of God’s promise to Abraham to build a great nation from his descendants, Isaac’s relatively simple life served as a critical bridge from Abraham to the beginnings of the twelve tribes of Israel, who were descended from Isaac’s son Jacob. It is likely that Isaac was born at Beersheba (see Genesis 21:1-24), and later Abraham offered him as a sacrifice on Mount Moriah (located at Jerusalem; see 2 Chronicles 3:1). Then Abraham, Isaac, and those with them returned to Beersheba (Genesis 22:1-19). When Isaac reached adulthood, his father sent a servant to bring back a bride for him from Aram-naharaim, far north of Canaan. When his bride, Rebekah, arrived, Isaac had just come from Beer-lahai-roi and settled in the Negev (Genesis 24:62). Later Isaac resettled with Rebekah in Beer-lahai-roi, and this may have been where their twins son Esau and Jacob were born. A famine forced Isaac to go to Gerar (Genesis 26:1-6) in “the land of the Philistines.” The distinct people group known as the Philistines in later books of the Bible did not arrive until the time of the Judges, so the term here must have referred to another people group living in this region, and this is supported by the fact that King Abimelech’s name is Semitic, not Aegean (the likely origin of the later Philistines). While Isaac was there, he repeated his father’s error (Genesis 20) by lying to the king that his wife was only his sister. Isaac also became increasingly prosperous at Gerar, so the Philistines told him to leave their region. Isaac moved away from the town of Gerar and settled further away in the valley of Gerar. There he dug a well, but the Philistines claimed it for themselves, so he called it Esek, meaning “argument.” So Isaac’s men dug another well and called it Sitnah (meaning “hostility”), but it led to more quarreling, so he dug yet another well and called it Rehoboth (meaning “open space”). The locations of these two later wells are not certain, but they may have been located near Ruheibeh as shown on this map. Then Isaac moved to Beersheba and built an altar. He also dug a well there, and King Abimelech of the Philistines came and exchanged oaths of peace with him. It was likely at Beersheba that Isaac blessed his sons Esau and Jacob, and both sons eventually left Canaan (see “Jacob Goes to Paddan-Aram” map). When Jacob later returned, he traveled to Mamre near Hebron and reunited with Isaac. Sometime after this Isaac died, and Jacob and Esau buried him there.

BI Gen 34:15 ©