YHN 17:15 Parallel Verse View

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OET (OET-RV) I’m not asking you to remove them out of this world, but rather to stop evil from overcoming them.

Key: khaki:verbs, orange:accusative/object, pink:genitive/possessor, red:negative.
Note: Automatic aligning of the OET-RV to the LV is done by some temporary software, hence the RV alignments are incomplete (and may occasionally be wrong).

ULT I do not ask that you would take them away from the world, but that you would keep them from the evil one.

UST I am not requesting that you take my disciples out of this sinful world. Rather, I am requesting that you keep them safe from being harmed by Satan, the evil one.

BLB I do not ask that You should take them out of the world, but that You should keep them from evil.

AICNT “I am not asking that you take them out of the world, but that you keep them from the evil one.

OEB I do not ask you to take them out of the world, but to keep them from evil.

2DT I do not ask that you lift them from the Kosmos but that you keep them from the Evil One.

WEBBE I pray not that you would take them from the world, but that you would keep them from the evil one.

WMBB (Same as above)

NET I am not asking you to take them out of the world, but that you keep them safe from the evil one.

LSV I do not ask that You may take them out of the world, but that You may keep them out of the evil.

FBV I'm not asking you to take them out of the world, but for you to protect them from the evil one.

TCNT I do not ask yoʋ to take them out of the world, but to keep them from the evil one.

T4T I am asking you, not that you take them out of this world, but instead that you protect them from Satan, the evil one.

LEB I do not ask that you take them out of the world, but that you protect them from the evil one.

BBE My prayer is not that you will take them out of the world, but that you will keep them from the Evil One.

Moff I pray not that thou wilt take them out of the world, but that thou wilt keep them from the evil one.

Wymth I do not ask that Thou wilt remove them out of the world, but that Thou wilt protect them from the Evil one.

ASV I pray not that thou shouldest take them from the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil one.

DRA I pray not that thou shouldst take them out of the world, but that thou shouldst keep them from evil.

YLT I do not ask that Thou mayest take them out of the world, but that Thou mayest keep them out of the evil.

Drby I do not demand that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them out of evil.

RV I pray not that thou shouldest take them from the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil one.
(I pray not that thou/you shouldest/should take them from the world, but that thou/you shouldest/should keep them from the evil one. )

SLT I ask not that thou take them out of the world, but that thou keep them from the evil.

Wbstr I pray not that thou shouldst take them out of the world, but that thou shouldst keep them from the evil.

KJB-1769 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.
( I pray not that thou/you shouldest/should take them out of the world, but that thou/you shouldest/should keep them from the evil. )

KJB-1611 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keepe them from the euill.
(Modernised spelling is same as from KJB-1769 above)

Bshps I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the worlde: but that thou kepe them from euyll.
(I pray not that thou/you shouldest/should take them out of the world: but that thou/you keep them from evil.)

Gnva I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou keepe them from euill.
(I pray not that thou/you shouldest/should take them out of the world, but that thou/you keep them from evil. )

Cvdl I praye not that thou shuldest take them out of the worlde, but that thou kepe the fro euell.
(I pray not that thou/you shouldest/should take them out of the world, but that thou/you keep the from evil.)

TNT I desyre not that thou shuldest take the out of the worlde: but that thou kepe them from evyll.
(I desire not that thou/you shouldest/should take the out of the world: but that thou/you keep them from evil. )

Wycl Y preye not, that thou take hem awei fro the world, but that thou kepe hem fro yuel.
(I pray not, that thou/you take hem away from the world, but that thou/you keep hem from evil.)

Luth Ich bitte nicht, daß du sie von der Welt nehmest, sondern daß du sie bewahrest vor dem Übel.
(I please not, that you(sg) they/she/them from the/of_the world takest, rather that you(sg) they/she/them preserve/keep/retainst before/in_front_of to_him evil.)

ClVg Non rogo ut tollas eos de mundo, sed ut serves eos a malo.
(Not/No rogo as tollas them from/about to_the_world, but as serves them from I_prefer. )

UGNT οὐκ ἐρωτῶ ἵνα ἄρῃς αὐτοὺς ἐκ τοῦ κόσμου, ἀλλ’ ἵνα τηρήσῃς αὐτοὺς ἐκ τοῦ πονηροῦ.
(ouk erōtō hina araʸs autous ek tou kosmou, all’ hina taʸraʸsaʸs autous ek tou ponaʸrou.)

SBL-GNT οὐκ ἐρωτῶ ἵνα ἄρῃς αὐτοὺς ἐκ τοῦ κόσμου ἀλλʼ ἵνα τηρήσῃς αὐτοὺς ἐκ τοῦ πονηροῦ.
(ouk erōtō hina araʸs autous ek tou kosmou allʼ hina taʸraʸsaʸs autous ek tou ponaʸrou.)

RP-GNT Οὐκ ἐρωτῶ ἵνα ἄρῃς αὐτοὺς ἐκ τοῦ κόσμου, ἀλλ' ἵνα τηρήσῃς αὐτοὺς ἐκ τοῦ πονηροῦ.
(Ouk erōtō hina araʸs autous ek tou kosmou, all' hina taʸraʸsaʸs autous ek tou ponaʸrou.)

TC-GNT Οὐκ ἐρωτῶ ἵνα ἄρῃς αὐτοὺς ἐκ τοῦ κόσμου, ἀλλ᾽ ἵνα τηρήσῃς αὐτοὺς ἐκ τοῦ πονηροῦ.
(Ouk erōtō hina araʸs autous ek tou kosmou, all hina taʸraʸsaʸs autous ek tou ponaʸrou. )

Key for above GNTs: yellow:punctuation differs, orange:accents differ, red:words differ (from our SR-GNT base).

TTN Tyndale Theme Notes:

The World

One of the most frequently used words in John is “world” (Greek kosmos). In Greek-speaking Jewish thought, kosmos refers to the heavens and the earth as created by God (Gen 1; see also John 1:3, 10; 17:5, 24). John extends the concept to include the world of humanity (e.g., 1:10; 3:16).

Although it was created as good, the human world is hostile to God (1:10-11; 3:19-20; 12:37-41). It is controlled by a darkness that cannot comprehend the light and, in fact, resists the light (3:19). The world is dead and needs life (6:33, 51), yet it hates the one who can save it (7:7). The world is under the dominion of Satan (12:31), who will one day be judged.

God loves the world of humanity, despite its hostility and rebellion against him. Jesus died to take away the sin of the world (1:29; 3:16-17; 1 Jn 2:2). But God’s love for the world he created stands alongside his necessary judgment of the world (John 3:18-21, 36; 5:27-30; 12:47-48). Christ’s followers experience this same tension in their mission. We are called into the world to bring the message of God’s love, but we will experience conflict because the world will be hostile to our message (see 15:18-27; 17:13-26).

Passages for Further Study

Gen 6:11-12; Pss 2:1-6; 9:8; Isa 61:11; 66:16; Matt 5:14; 13:38-40; John 1:9-10; 3:16-19; 7:7; 8:12; 14:17-19; 15:18-19; 16:7-9, 33; John 17:5-26; Acts 17:31; 1 Cor 1:20-28; 3:3; 6:2; 2 Cor 5:19; Eph 2:2; Col 2:20; Jas 4:4; 2 Pet 1:4; 2:20; 1 Jn 2:15-16; 4:3-5

SOTN SIL Open Translator’s Notes:

Section 17:1–26: Jesus prayed to his Father

In this section, chapter 17, Jesus prayed to God his Father. He asked his Father to restore the glory that he had before he came to earth. He also asked his Father to protect his disciples from evil. He prayed for people in the future who would believe in him. He also told his Father that he wanted his disciples to always be with him.

Sometimes it is difficult to know to whom the pronouns “they” and “them” refer. Most of the time, Jesus was praying for the 11 disciples with him. However, he also prayed for all Christians, including those who would believe in him in the future. And even some of the prayers for the 11 disciples could also be thought to be prayers for future believers.

Here are some other possible Section Headings:

Jesus Prays for Himself, His Disciples, and His Church (GW)

Jesus’ prayer for his disciples

Paragraph 17:13–19

Jesus asked his Father to bless his disciples with joy, protection, and sanctification.

17:15a

I am not asking that You take them out of the world,

I am not praying that you^(sing) will take them off the earth;
I do not want you^(sing) to remove them from the earth.

I am not asking that You take them out of the world: This clause indicates that Jesus wanted his disciples to remain on earth. He did not want God to take them away. Here are other ways to translate this clause:

My prayer is not that you take them out of the world (NIV)

I do not pray you to take them out of the world (REB)

To take them out of the world is not what I ask.

Jesus said what he was not asking before saying what he was asking. In some languages it is more natural to give the positive first and then the negative. For examples of how to do that, see the General Comment following 17:15b.

I am not asking: The word asking in this context means “praying” because Jesus was talking to God the Father. For example:

I do not pray (REB)

I am not praying (JBP)

My prayer/request is not…

them: This pronoun refers to Jesus’ disciples. In some languages it may be natural to make explicit whom the word refers to. For example:

my followers (CEV)

the world: In this context this phrase refers to this physical earth and its fallen people. The disciples do not belong to the world, but they are living in the world. God’s people are to remain for some time living among the people of the world.

General Comment on 17:15a

In the BSB, what Jesus is not asking is an indirect quotation. In some languages it may be natural to translate what Jesus does not ask as a direct quotation inside Jesus’ words. For example:

I am not asking/praying, ‘Take my disciples out of the world.’

17:15b

but that You keep them from the evil one.

however, I ask that you^(sing) will protect them from the evil one.
I just want you^(sing) to keep them safe from the attacks of the one who is evil.

but that You keep them from the evil one: This clause indicates that Jesus asked God the Father to keep his disciples safe from Satan. It contrasts with what Jesus did not ask God in 17:15a. Translate this clause in a way that contrasts naturally and effectively with 17:15a. For example:

but I do ask you to keep them safe from the Evil One (GNT)

In some languages it may be natural to repeat the verb “asking” that is implied from 17:15a. For example:

but I ask you to protect them from the evil one (NRSV)

but: The Greek conjunction that the BSB translates as but here connects a negative statement (17:15a, what Jesus does not ask) to a positive statement (17:15b, what Jesus does ask). This kind of sentence emphasizes the positive statement. Languages have different ways to indicate this type of emphasis. Here are some ways to show the emphasis:

Use the conjunction but as in the BSB.
My prayer is not that you take them out of the world but that you protect them from the evil one. (NIV)
Use a conjunction other than but. This is a common way in English to show this type of emphasis. For example:
I do not say that you should remove them from the world; rather that you should protect them from Satan.
Do not use a conjunction. For example:
I am not asking you to take them out of the world. I am asking you to keep them safe from the Evil One.
Change the order of the clauses. For example:
^15bMy prayer is that you protect them from the evil one; ^15anot that you take them out of the world.
^15bI am asking you to keep my disciples safe from the evil one. ^15aI am not asking you to take them out of the earth.

You should translate this emphasis in the way that is most natural in your language.

keep them from: This phrase means “keep them from being harmed.” Here is another way to translate this phrase:

keep them safe (NET)

the evil one: This phrase is a title that refers to Satan, the chief of the evil spirits. See also 1 John 2:13–14. You may want to indicate in a footnote that this phrase refers to Satan. Here are other ways to translate this phrase

the one who is called the Evil One

the one who is really evil (TH)

General Comment on 17:15b

If you used a direct quotation in 17:15a, it may be natural to do so here also. For example:

I am praying, ‘Protect them from the evil one.’

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Jesus’ Arrest, Trial, Crucifixion, and Burial

Matthew 26-27; Mark 14-15; Luke 22-23; John 13-19

On the Thursday before he was crucified, Jesus had arranged to share the Passover meal with his disciples in an upper room, traditionally thought to be located in the Essene Quarter of Jerusalem. After they finished the meal, they went to the Garden of Gethsemane, where Jesus often met with his disciples. There Judas Iscariot, one of Jesus’ own disciples, betrayed him to soldiers sent from the High Priest, and they took Jesus to the High Priest’s residence. In the morning the leading priests and teachers of the law put Jesus on trial and found him guilty of blasphemy. The council sent Jesus to stand trial for treason before the Roman governor Pontius Pilate, who resided at the Praetorium while in Jerusalem. The Praetorium was likely located at the former residence of Herod the Great, who had died over 30 years earlier. When Pilate learned that Jesus was from Galilee, he sent him to Herod Antipas, who had jurisdiction over Galilee. But when Jesus gave no answer to Herod’s many questions, Herod and his soldiers sent him back to Pilate, who conceded to the people’s demands that Jesus be crucified. Jesus was forced to carry his cross out of the city gate to Golgotha, meaning Skull Hill, referring to what may have been a small unquarried hill in the middle of an old quarry just outside the gate. After Jesus was unable to carry his cross any further, a man named Simon from Cyrene was forced to carry it for him. There at Golgotha they crucified Jesus. After Jesus died, his body was hurriedly taken down before nightfall and placed in a newly cut, rock tomb owned by Joseph of Arimathea, a member of the Jewish high council. This tomb was likely located at the perimeter of the old quarry.