YHN 17:20 Parallel Verse View

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OET (OET-RV) “But it’s not just on behalf of the ones right here that I’m asking, but also for all the others who will believe that I came from you when they hear the message of these ones,

Key: khaki:verbs, orange:accusative/object, pink:genitive/possessor, red:negative.
Note: Automatic aligning of the OET-RV to the LV is done by some temporary software, hence the RV alignments are incomplete (and may occasionally be wrong).

ULT But I ask not only on behalf of these, but also on behalf of the ones believing in me through their word,

UST Now I am praying not only for these disciples here, but I am praying also for those people who will trust in me by means of what my disciples say.

BSB I am not asking on behalf of them alone, but also on behalf of those who will believe in Me through their message,

BLB But I do not ask for these only, but also for those believing in Me through their word,

AICNT “Not concerning these only do I ask, but also concerning those who believe in me through their word,

OEB But it is not only for them that I am interceding, but also for those who believe in me through their message,

WEBBE “Not for these only do I pray, but for those also who will believe in me through their word,

WMBB (Same as above)

NET “I am not praying only on their behalf, but also on behalf of those who believe in me through their testimony,

LSV And I do not ask in regard to these alone, but also in regard to those who will be believing in Me through their word,

FBV I'm not only praying for them, I'm also praying for those who trust in me because of their message.

TCNT “I do not ask on behalf of them alone, but also on behalf of those who will believe in me through their word,

T4T “I am praying not only for these eleven disciples. I am praying also for those who will believe in me as a result of hearing their message.

LEB ¶ “And I do not ask on behalf of these only, but also on behalf of those who believe in me through their word,

BBE My prayer is not for them only, but for all who will have faith in me through their word;

Moff Nor do I pray for them alone, but for all who believe in me by their spoken word;

Wymth "Nor is it for them alone that I make request. It is also for those who trust in me through their teaching;

ASV Neither for these only do I pray, but for them also that believe on me through their word;

DRA And not for them only do I pray, but for them also who through their word shall believe in me;

YLT 'And not in regard to these alone do I ask, but also in regard to those who shall be believing, through their word, in me;

Drby And I do not demand for these only, but also for those who believe on me through their word;

RV Neither for these only do I pray, but for them also that believe on me through their word;

SLT And I ask not for these alone, but also for them believing in me through their word;

Wbstr Neither pray I for these alone; but for them also who shall believe on me through their word.

KJB-1769 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;

KJB-1611 Neither pray I for these alone; but for them also which shall beleeue on me through their word:
(Modernised spelling is same as from KJB-1769 above, apart from punctuation)

Bshps Neuerthelesse, I pray not for them alone: but for the also, which shall beleue on me through their preachyng:
(Nevertheless, I pray not for them alone: but for the also, which shall believe on me through their preaching:)

Gnva I praie not for these alone, but for them also which shall beleeue in mee, through their woorde,
(I praie not for these alone, but for them also which shall believe in me, through their word, )

Cvdl Neuertheles I praye not for them onely, but also for those, which thorow their worde shal beleue on me,
(Nevertheless I pray not for them only, but also for those, which through their word shall believe on me,)

TNT I praye not for them alone: but for them also which shall beleve on me thorowe their preachynge
(I pray not for them alone: but for them also which shall believe on me through their preaching )

Wycl And Y preye not oneli for hem, but also for hem that schulden bileue in to me bi the word of hem;
(And I pray not only for hem, but also for hem that should believe in to me by the word of hem;)

Luth Ich bitte aber nicht alleine für sie, sondern auch für die, so durch ihr Wort an mich glauben werden,
(I please but not alone/solely for/in_favour_of they/she/them, rather also for/in_favour_of that, so through you(pl)/their/her word at/to me believe become,)

ClVg Non pro eis autem rogo tantum, sed et pro eis qui credituri sunt per verbum eorum in me:[fn]
(Not/No for to_them however rogo only, but and for to_them who/which it_is_believedi are through the_word/saying their in/into/on me: )

17.20 Non pro eis. Jam non de solis apostolis, vel de cæteris membris incipit: Non autem orat pro his qui jam sunt in fide ejus defuncti, sed pro his qui sunt in tentationibus. Sed et pro eis qui. Usque in finem mundi, vel jam credunt ubicunque sunt, non tamen tam perfecte, ut post credituri sunt post resurrectionem. Per verbum. Per verbum Evangelii, quod est eorum, non quod per eos tantum sit prædicatum, sed et per Paulum et alios quoslibet, sed quia eis primo et principaliter commissum sit ad prædicandum. Hoc est verbum fidei, verbum Dei, per quod credidit latro, credidit Paulus, et quicunque credit.

17.20 Not/No for to_them. Now not/no from/about of_the_sun apostles, or from/about the_rests members begins: Not/No however prays for his who/which already are in/into/on with_faith his defuncti, but for his who/which are in/into/on temptations. But and for to_them who. Until in/into/on the_end world, or already they_believe ubicunque are, not/no nevertheless tam perfectly, as after it_is_believedi are after resurrection. Per the_word/saying. Per the_word/saying of_the_Gospels, that it_is their, not/no that through them only be preachum, but and through Paulum and others whichlibet, but because to_them at_first and principaliter commissum be to to_preach. This it_is the_word/saying of_faith, the_word/saying of_God, through that believed latro, believed Paulus, and whoever he_believes.

UGNT οὐ περὶ τούτων δὲ ἐρωτῶ μόνον, ἀλλὰ καὶ περὶ τῶν πιστευόντων διὰ τοῦ λόγου αὐτῶν εἰς ἐμὲ,
(ou peri toutōn de erōtō monon, alla kai peri tōn pisteuontōn dia tou logou autōn eis eme,)

SBL-GNT Οὐ περὶ τούτων δὲ ἐρωτῶ μόνον, ἀλλὰ καὶ περὶ τῶν πιστευόντων διὰ τοῦ λόγου αὐτῶν εἰς ἐμέ,
(Ou peri toutōn de erōtō monon, alla kai peri tōn pisteuontōn dia tou logou autōn eis eme,)

RP-GNT Οὐ περὶ τούτων δὲ ἐρωτῶ μόνον, ἀλλὰ καὶ περὶ τῶν πιστευόντων διὰ τοῦ λόγου αὐτῶν εἰς ἐμέ·
(Ou peri toutōn de erōtō monon, alla kai peri tōn pisteuontōn dia tou logou autōn eis eme;)

TC-GNT Οὐ περὶ τούτων δὲ ἐρωτῶ μόνον, ἀλλὰ καὶ περὶ τῶν [fn]πιστευόντων διὰ τοῦ λόγου αὐτῶν εἰς ἐμέ·
(Ou peri toutōn de erōtō monon, alla kai peri tōn pisteuontōn dia tou logou autōn eis eme; )

17:20 πιστευοντων ¦ πιστευσοντων TR

Key for above GNTs: yellow:punctuation differs, orange:accents differ (from our SR-GNT base).

TTN Tyndale Theme Notes:

The World

One of the most frequently used words in John is “world” (Greek kosmos). In Greek-speaking Jewish thought, kosmos refers to the heavens and the earth as created by God (Gen 1; see also John 1:3, 10; 17:5, 24). John extends the concept to include the world of humanity (e.g., 1:10; 3:16).

Although it was created as good, the human world is hostile to God (1:10-11; 3:19-20; 12:37-41). It is controlled by a darkness that cannot comprehend the light and, in fact, resists the light (3:19). The world is dead and needs life (6:33, 51), yet it hates the one who can save it (7:7). The world is under the dominion of Satan (12:31), who will one day be judged.

God loves the world of humanity, despite its hostility and rebellion against him. Jesus died to take away the sin of the world (1:29; 3:16-17; 1 Jn 2:2). But God’s love for the world he created stands alongside his necessary judgment of the world (John 3:18-21, 36; 5:27-30; 12:47-48). Christ’s followers experience this same tension in their mission. We are called into the world to bring the message of God’s love, but we will experience conflict because the world will be hostile to our message (see 15:18-27; 17:13-26).

Passages for Further Study

Gen 6:11-12; Pss 2:1-6; 9:8; Isa 61:11; 66:16; Matt 5:14; 13:38-40; John 1:9-10; 3:16-19; 7:7; 8:12; 14:17-19; 15:18-19; 16:7-9, 33; John 17:5-26; Acts 17:31; 1 Cor 1:20-28; 3:3; 6:2; 2 Cor 5:19; Eph 2:2; Col 2:20; Jas 4:4; 2 Pet 1:4; 2:20; 1 Jn 2:15-16; 4:3-5

SOTN SIL Open Translator’s Notes:

Section 17:1–26: Jesus prayed to his Father

In this section, chapter 17, Jesus prayed to God his Father. He asked his Father to restore the glory that he had before he came to earth. He also asked his Father to protect his disciples from evil. He prayed for people in the future who would believe in him. He also told his Father that he wanted his disciples to always be with him.

Sometimes it is difficult to know to whom the pronouns “they” and “them” refer. Most of the time, Jesus was praying for the 11 disciples with him. However, he also prayed for all Christians, including those who would believe in him in the future. And even some of the prayers for the 11 disciples could also be thought to be prayers for future believers.

Here are some other possible Section Headings:

Jesus Prays for Himself, His Disciples, and His Church (GW)

Jesus’ prayer for his disciples

Paragraph 17:20–24

In this paragraph Jesus prayed for those who would believe in him and follow him in the future. He also prayed specifically for the 11 disciples with him.

17:20a

I am not asking on behalf of them alone,

¶ “I am not praying just for these disciples.
¶ “I am praying for these disciples and I am praying as well

I am not asking on behalf of them alone: This clause indicates that Jesus was praying for others as well as for his disciples who were there with him. He was not praying for the 11 disciples alone. In your translation, make sure that it is clear that Jesus’ disciples were included in the prayer request. For example:

As well as praying for these disciples, I pray for…

I pray for these followers, but I am also praying for… (NCV)

I am…asking: This clause here means “I pray” and refers to what Jesus was doing at that time. He was making a request to God. For example:

I am praying (NLT)

on behalf of them alone: This phrase indicates that Jesus was not just thinking of the disciples there with him. He was not only praying for (on behalf of) them. In some languages it may be natural to indicate that the word them refers to the disciples there. For example:

not only for these disciples (NLT)

not…just for these followers (CEV)

17:20b

but also on behalf of those who will believe in Me through their message,

I am praying too for the people who will later believe in me because of what these disciples preach/proclaim.
for all those in the future who will believe in me because of what these disciples tell them about me.

but: The Greek conjunction that the BSB translates as but here connects a negative statement (17:20a) to a positive statement (17:20b). This kind of sentence emphasizes the positive statement. Languages have different ways to indicate this type of emphasis. Here are some ways to show the emphasis:

Use the conjunction but as in the BSB.
I pray not only for them, but also for those who believe in me because of their message. (GNT)
Use a conjunction other than but. This is a common way in English to show this type of emphasis. For example:
I do not pray only for these. Rather, I also pray for the people who will believe in me because of their preaching.
Do not use a conjunction. For example:
My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message (NIV)
Change the order of the clauses. For example:
I am praying for all the people who will believe in me because my disciples will preach to them. I am not just praying for those who already believe.
I am praying for all those who will believe in me because of their teaching, and not just for them.

You should translate this emphasis in the way that is most natural in your language.

also on behalf of those who will believe in Me through their message: This expression indicates that Jesus then prayed for all Christians in all times. These are people who would believe the message that the disciples first preached. For example:

but I am also praying for all those who will believe in me because of their teaching (NCV)

I am also praying for everyone else who will have faith because of what my followers will say about me. (CEV)

will believe in Me: This phrase includes the idea of believing the facts about who Jesus was and what he did. But it also includes the idea of trusting Jesus instead of trusting oneself or someone else. Both ideas are very closely related. If someone believes the facts about Jesus, it should result in trusting him. See how you translated similar phrases in 1:12, 2:11, and 3:16. Here are other ways to translate this idea:

put their faith in me (REB)

will become believers

through their message: This phrase here means “because of the message that the disciples will preach.” The disciples would preach and teach the gospel message, and many other people would then believe in Jesus. These new believers would in turn tell others, who would themselves believe and share God’s word with more people. Each of these generations of believers are included in Jesus’ prayer. Here are other ways to translate this phrase:

because of their teaching (NCV)

because of what they will tell about me

their: This pronoun refers to the 11 disciples.

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Jesus’ Arrest, Trial, Crucifixion, and Burial

Matthew 26-27; Mark 14-15; Luke 22-23; John 13-19

On the Thursday before he was crucified, Jesus had arranged to share the Passover meal with his disciples in an upper room, traditionally thought to be located in the Essene Quarter of Jerusalem. After they finished the meal, they went to the Garden of Gethsemane, where Jesus often met with his disciples. There Judas Iscariot, one of Jesus’ own disciples, betrayed him to soldiers sent from the High Priest, and they took Jesus to the High Priest’s residence. In the morning the leading priests and teachers of the law put Jesus on trial and found him guilty of blasphemy. The council sent Jesus to stand trial for treason before the Roman governor Pontius Pilate, who resided at the Praetorium while in Jerusalem. The Praetorium was likely located at the former residence of Herod the Great, who had died over 30 years earlier. When Pilate learned that Jesus was from Galilee, he sent him to Herod Antipas, who had jurisdiction over Galilee. But when Jesus gave no answer to Herod’s many questions, Herod and his soldiers sent him back to Pilate, who conceded to the people’s demands that Jesus be crucified. Jesus was forced to carry his cross out of the city gate to Golgotha, meaning Skull Hill, referring to what may have been a small unquarried hill in the middle of an old quarry just outside the gate. After Jesus was unable to carry his cross any further, a man named Simon from Cyrene was forced to carry it for him. There at Golgotha they crucified Jesus. After Jesus died, his body was hurriedly taken down before nightfall and placed in a newly cut, rock tomb owned by Joseph of Arimathea, a member of the Jewish high council. This tomb was likely located at the perimeter of the old quarry.

Parallel YHN 17:20

Section 17:1–26: Jesus prayed to his Father

Paragraph 17:20–24

17:20a

17:20b

Jesus’ Arrest, Trial, Crucifixion, and Burial