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OET-LV Turn_upsidedown_you_all (if) as_clay the_potter will_he_be_regarded (cmp) it_will_say a_thing_made of_maker_its not make_me and_what_is_formed it_said of_formed_it not he_has_understood.
UHB הַ֨פְכְּכֶ֔ם אִם־כְּחֹ֥מֶר הַיֹּצֵ֖ר יֵֽחָשֵׁ֑ב כִּֽי־יֹאמַ֨ר מַעֲשֶׂ֤ה לְעֹשֵׂ֨הוּ֙ לֹ֣א עָשָׂ֔נִי וְיֵ֛צֶר אָמַ֥ר לְיוֹצְר֖וֹ לֹ֥א הֵבִֽין׃ ‡
(hafkəkem ʼim-kəḩomer hayyoʦēr yēḩāshēⱱ kiy-yoʼmar maˊₐseh ləˊosēhū loʼ ˊāsānī vəyēʦer ʼāmar ləyōʦərō loʼ hēⱱin.)
Key: khaki:verbs, red:negative.
Note: Automatic aligning of the OET-RV to the LV is done by some temporary software, hence the OET-RV alignments are incomplete (and may occasionally be wrong).
BrLXX Οὐχ ὡς πηλὸς τοῦ κεραμέως λογισθήσεσθε; μὴ ἐρεῖ τὸ πλάσμα τῷ πλάσαντι αὐτό, οὐ σύ με ἔπλασας; ἢ τὸ ποίημα τῷ ποιήσαντι, οὐ συνετῶς με ἐποίησας;
(Ouⱪ hōs paʸlos tou kerameōs logisthaʸsesthe; maʸ erei to plasma tōi plasanti auto, ou su me eplasas; aʸ to poiaʸma tōi poiaʸsanti, ou sunetōs me epoiaʸsas; )
BrTr Shall ye not be counted as clay of the potter? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Thou didst not form me? or the work to the maker, Thou hast not made me wisely?
ULT You reverse things!
⇔ Should the potter be considered like clay,
⇔ so the made should say of its maker,
⇔ “He did not make me,”
⇔ or the created say of its creator,
⇔ “He does not understand”?
UST They are extremely foolish!
⇔ They act as though they were the potters and I were the clay!
⇔ Something that was created should certainly never say to the one who made it,
⇔ ‘You did not make me!’
⇔ A jar should never say,
⇔ ‘The potter who made me did not know what he was doing!’ ”
BSB You have turned things upside down,
⇔ as if the potter were regarded as clay.
⇔ Shall what is formed say to him who formed it,
⇔ “He did not make me”?[fn]
⇔ Can the pottery say of the potter,
⇔ “He has no understanding”?
29:16 Cited in Romans 9:20
OEB O perverse that you are!
⇔ Is the potter no more than the clay?
⇔ Can the thing that is made maintain
⇔ that it has not been made by its maker?
⇔ Can the thing that is fashioned deny
⇔ that the potter has understanding?
WEBBE You turn things upside down! Should the potter be thought to be like clay, that the thing made should say about him who made it, “He didn’t make me;” or the thing formed say of him who formed it, “He has no understanding”?
WMBB (Same as above)
NET Your thinking is perverse!
⇔ Should the potter be regarded as clay?
⇔ Should the thing made say about its maker, “He didn’t make me”?
⇔ Or should the pottery say about the potter, “He doesn’t understand”?
LSV Your perversion! Is the potter esteemed as clay,
That the work says of its maker, “He has not made me?” And the framed thing said of its framer, “He did not understand?”
FBV How perverse you are! It's as if the clay was thought of as making the potter! Should something made say to its maker, “You didn't make me”? Can the pot tell the potter, “You don't understand anything”?
T4T They are extremely foolish!
⇔ They act as though they were the potters and I was the clay!
⇔ Something that was created should certainly never [RHQ] say to the one who made it,
⇔ ‘You did not make me!’
⇔ A jar should never say,
⇔ ‘The potter who made me did not know what he was doing!’ ”
LEB • Your perversity!As if[fn] shall be regarded as the clay! That the product of its maker says, “He did not make me,” • and the thing made into shape says of its[fn] “He has no understanding.”
¶
BBE You are turning things upside down! Is the wet earth the same to you as the one who is forming it? will the thing made say of him who made it, He made me not: or the thing formed say of him who gave it form, He has no knowledge?
Moff No Moff ISA book available
JPS O your perversity! Shall the potter be esteemed as clay; that the thing made should say of him that made it: 'He made me not'; or the thing framed say of him that framed it: 'He hath no understanding?'
ASV Ye turn things upside down! Shall the potter be esteemed as clay; that the thing made should say of him that made it, He made me not; or the thing formed say of him that formed it, He hath no understanding?
DRA This thought of yours is perverse: as if the clay should think against the potter, and the work should say to the maker thereof: Thou madest me not: or the thing framed should say to him that fashioned it: Thou understandest not.
YLT Your perversion! as clay is the potter esteemed? That the work saith of its maker, 'He hath not made me?' And the framed thing said of its framer, 'He did not understand?'
Drby [Oh] your perverseness! — Shall the potter be esteemed as the clay, so that the work should say of him that made it, He made me not; or the thing formed say of him that formed it, He hath no understanding?
RV Ye turn things upside down! Shall the potter be counted as clay; that the thing made should say of him that made it, He made me not; or the thing framed say of him that framed it, He hath no understanding?
Wbstr Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potter's clay: for shall the work say of him that made it, He made me not? or shall the thing framed say of him that framed it, He had no understanding?
KJB-1769 Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potter’s clay: for shall the work say of him that made it, He made me not? or shall the thing framed say of him that framed it, He had no understanding?
KJB-1611 [fn]Surely your turning of things vpside downe shall be esteemed as the potters clay: for shall the worke say of him that made it, He made me not? or shall the thing framed, say of him that framed it, He had no vnderstanding?
(Modernised spelling is same as from KJB-1769 above, apart from punctuation and footnotes)
29:16 Isa.45. 19.
Bshps Doubtlesse your destruction is in reputation as the potters clay: And doth the worke say of hym that made it, he made not me? And doth an earthen vessell say of hym that fashioned it, he had no vnderstanding?
(Doubtlesse your destruction is in reputation as the potters clay: And doth the work say of him that made it, he made not me? And doth an earthen vessel say of him that fashioned it, he had no understanding?)
Gnva Your turning of deuises shall it not be esteemed as the potters clay? for shall the worke say of him that made it, Hee made me not? or the thing formed, say of him that facioned it, He had none vnderstanding?
(Your turning of deuises shall it not be esteemed as the potters clay? for shall the work say of him that made it, He made me not? or the thing formed, say of him that facioned it, He had none understanding? )
Cvdl Which ymaginacion of yours is euen as when the potters claye taketh advisemet, as though the worke might saye to ye worke master: make me not, or as when an erthen vessel saieth of the potter: he vnderstondeth not.
(Which imagineacion of yours is even as when the potters clay taketh advisemet, as though the work might say to ye/you_all work master: make me not, or as when an earthn vessel saith/says of the potter: he understoodth not.)
Wycl This thouyt of you is weiward, as if cley thenke ayens a pottere, and the werk seie to his makere, Thou madist not me; and a thing `that is maad, seie to his makere, Thou vndurstondist not.
(This thouyt of you is weiward, as if clay thenke against a potter, and the work say to his makere, Thou madist not me; and a thing `that is made, say to his makere, Thou understondist not.)
Luth Wie seid ihr so verkehrt! Gleich als wenn des Töpfers Ton gedächte und ein Werk spräche von seinem Meister: Er hat mich nicht gemacht, und ein Gemächte spräche von seinem Töpfer: Er kennet mich nicht.
(How seid you/their/her so verkehrt! Gleich als when the Töpfers Ton gedächte and a Werk spräche from his Meister: He has me not made, and a Gemächte spräche from his Töpfer: He kennet me not.)
ClVg Perversa est hæc vestra cogitatio; quasi si lutum contra figulum cogitet, et dicat opus factori suo: Non fecisti me; et figmentum dicat fictori suo: Non intelligis.[fn]
(Perversa it_is these_things vestra cogitatio; as_if when/but_if lutum on_the_contrary figulum cogitet, and let_him_say opus factori suo: Non fecisti me; and figmentum let_him_say fictori suo: Non intelligis. )
29.16 Perversa est, etc. ID. Ut Creator ignoret creaturam; unde Apostolus: O homo tu quis es, qui respondeas Deo? nunquid dicit figmentum factori suo: Quare me fecisti? Rom. 9.
29.16 Perversa it_is, etc. ID. Ut Creator ignoret creaturam; whence Apostolus: O human you who/any es, who respondeas Deo? nunquid dicit figmentum factori suo: Quare me fecisti? Rom. 9.
29:16 Potter . . . clay: The Lord’s sovereignty is beyond challenge. Scripture does not discourage asking God hard questions, but there is no place for resistance to God’s will (see 10:15; 45:9; 64:8; Rom 9:20).
• He didn’t make me: Such claims against God demonstrate a total unwillingness to recognize God’s intimate involvement with every aspect of a person’s life.
Note 1 topic: figures-of-speech / idiom
(Occurrence 0) You turn things upside down
(Some words not found in UHB: turn_~_upsidedown,you_all if as,clay the,potter regarded that/for/because/then/when say what_is_made of,maker,its not make,me and,what_is_formed he/it_had_said of,formed,it not he/it_understood )
This is an idiom that means to distort what is true. Alternate translation: “You make things opposite of the way they should be” or “You distort the truth”
Note 2 topic: figures-of-speech / metaphor
(Occurrence 0) Should the potter be considered like clay, so that the thing that is made should say about him who made it & “He does not understand”?
(Some words not found in UHB: turn_~_upsidedown,you_all if as,clay the,potter regarded that/for/because/then/when say what_is_made of,maker,its not make,me and,what_is_formed he/it_had_said of,formed,it not he/it_understood )
Yahweh who created humans is spoken of as if he were a potter and humans were the clay. This metaphor emphasizes that it is foolish for humans to reject or criticize the one who created them. Alternate translation: “Should you consider me, your maker, to be like the clay rather than the potter? It is as if a potter created something, and that thing said about the potter, ‘He did not make me,’ or ‘He does not understand.’”
Note 3 topic: figures-of-speech / rquestion
(Occurrence 0) Should the potter be considered like clay & “He does not understand”?
(Some words not found in UHB: turn_~_upsidedown,you_all if as,clay the,potter regarded that/for/because/then/when say what_is_made of,maker,its not make,me and,what_is_formed he/it_had_said of,formed,it not he/it_understood )
This question is used to scold the people of Jerusalem. Alternate translation: “Obviously, the potter should not be considered like clay … ‘He does not understand.’”