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Psa 87 V1 V2 V3 V5 V6 V7

Parallel PSA 87:4

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Text critical issues=none Clarity of original=clear Importance to us=normal Speaker(s)=Narrator (All still tentative.)

OET (OET-RV) “I mention Rahab and Babylon to my followers.
 ⇔ See, there are Philistia, and Tsor (Tyre), along with Kush—
 ⇔ and will say, ‘This one was born there.’ ”OET logo mark

OET-LV I_will_bring_to_remembrance Rahaⱱ and_Bāⱱel to_those_of_who_know_me THERE Fəleshet and_Tsor/(Tyre) with Kūsh/(Cush) this_one it_was_born there.OET logo mark

UHB אַזְכִּ֤יר ׀ רַ֥הַב וּ⁠בָבֶ֗ל לְֽ⁠יֹ֫דְעָ֥⁠י הִנֵּ֤ה פְלֶ֣שֶׁת וְ⁠צ֣וֹר עִם־כּ֑וּשׁ זֶ֝֗ה יֻלַּד־שָֽׁם׃ ‡
   (ʼazkir rahaⱱ ū⁠ⱱāⱱel lə⁠yodˊā⁠y hinnēh fəleshet və⁠ʦōr ˊim-kūsh zeh yullad-shām.)

Key: khaki:verbs.
Note: Automatic aligning of the OET-RV to the LV is done by some temporary software, hence the OET-RV alignments are incomplete (and may occasionally be wrong).

BrLXX (PSA 86:4) Μνησθήσομαι Ῥαὰβ, καὶ Βαβυλῶνος, τοῖς γινώσκουσί με· καὶ ἰδοὺ ἀλλόφυλοι καὶ Τύρος καὶ λαὸς Αἰθιόπων, οὗτοι ἐγεννήθησαν ἐκεῖ.
   (Mnaʸsthaʸsomai Ɽaʼab, kai Babulōnos, tois ginōskousi me; kai idou allofuloi kai Turos kai laos Aithiopōn, houtoi egennaʸthaʸsan ekei.)

BrTr (PSA 86:4) I will make mention of Raab and Babylon to them that know me: behold also the Philistines, and Tyre, and the people of the Ethiopians: these were born there.


ULT I will mention Rahab and Babylon
 ⇔ to the ones knowing me;
 ⇔ behold, Philistia and Tyre
 ⇔ with Cush—
 ⇔ “This one was born there.”

UST Yahweh says, “When I talk about people who know me,
 ⇔ this will include Egyptians and Babylonians.
 ⇔ Indeed, I will also say about Philistines and Tyrians and Cushites,
 ⇔ ‘This person is a native of Zion.’ ”

BSB & MSB “I will mention Rahab[fn] and Babylon
 ⇔ among those who know Me—
 ⇔ along with Philistia, Tyre, and Cush[fn]—
 ⇔ [when I say,] ‘This one was born [in Zion].’ ”


87:4 Rahab is a poetic name for Egypt.

87:4 That is, the upper Nile region

OEB  ⇔ ‘Among those who are mine I name Rahab and Babylon,
 ⇔ Philistia, Tyre, Ethiopia,
 ⇔ their people will say I was born in Zion.

WEBBE & WMBB I will record Rahab[fn] and Babylon amongst those who acknowledge me.
 ⇔ Behold, Philistia, Tyre, and also Ethiopia:
 ⇔ “This one was born there.”


87:4 Rahab is a reference to Egypt.

NET I mention Rahab and Babylon to my followers.
 ⇔ Here are Philistia and Tyre, along with Ethiopia.
 ⇔ It is said of them, “This one was born there.”

LSV I mention Rahab and Babel to those knowing Me,
Behold, Philistia, and Tyre, with Cush! This [one] was born there.

FBV I mention Egypt[fn] and Babylon as those who know me, and in addition Philistia, Tyre, and Ethiopia—“this man was born there.”[fn]


87:4 Literally, “Rahab.”

87:4 The meaning of this verse is debated. What it seems to be saying is that despite the patriotism for each country/city mentioned, the best is to be born in Jerusalem. (See following verse.)

T4T  ⇔ Some of those who know about God are the people of Egypt and Babylonia,
 ⇔ and also the people of Philistia and Tyre and Ethiopia;
 ⇔ some day they all will say,
 ⇔ “Although I was not born in Jerusalem,
 ⇔ because I belong to Yahweh, it is as though I was born there.”

LEB  •  I will record[fn] those who know me
 •  in Rahab[fn] and Babylon,
 •  behold in Philistia and Tyre with Cush,
 •  “This one was born there.”


87:? Or “mention”

87:? That is, Egypt; compare Isa 30:7

BBE Rahab and Babylon will be named among those who have knowledge of me; see, Philistia and Tyre, with Ethiopia; this man had his birth there.

Moff “Egypt and Babylon, Philistia, Tyre
 ⇔ I count as mine
 ⇔ for there this follower and that was born;

JPS 'I will make mention of Rahab and Babylon as among them that know Me; behold Philistia, and Tyre, with Ethiopia; this one was born there.'

ASV I will make mention of Rahab and Babylon as among them that know me:
 ⇔ Behold, Philistia, and Tyre, with Ethiopia:
 ⇔ This one was born there.

DRA (PSA 86:4) I will be mindful of Rahab and of Babylon knowing me. Behold the foreigners, and Tyre, and the people of the Ethiopians, these were there.

YLT I mention Rahab and Babel to those knowing Me, Lo, Philistia, and Tyre, with Cush! This [one] was born there.

Drby I will make mention of Rahab and Babylon among them that know me; behold Philistia, and Tyre, with Ethiopia: this [man] was born there.

RV I will make mention of Rahab and Babylon as among them that know me: behold Philistia, and Tyre, with Ethiopia; this one was born there.

SLT I will make mention of Rahab and Babel to those knowing me: behold the rovers, and Tyre, with Cush; this was born there.

Wbstr I will make mention of Rahab and Babylon to them that know me: behold Philistia, and Tyre, with Cush; this man was born there.

KJB-1769  ⇔ I will make mention of Rahab and Babylon to them that know me: behold Philistia, and Tyre, with Ethiopia; this man was born there.

KJB-1611 I will make mention of Rahab, and Babylon, to them that know mee; behold Philistia, and Tyre, with Ethiopia: this man was borne there.
   (Modernised spelling is same as from KJB-1769 above, apart from punctuation)

Bshps I wyll make mention amongst those that knowe me, of Egypt and Babylon: behold also of Palestina and Tyre, with Ethiopia, and it shalbe sayde suche a man is borne there.
   (I will make mention among those that know me, of Egypt and Babylon: behold also of Palestina and Tyre, with Ethiopia, and it shall be said such a man is born there.)

Gnva I will make mention of Rahab and Babel among them that knowe me: beholde Palestina and Tyrus with Ethiopia, There is he borne.
   (I will make mention of Rahab and Babel among them that know me: behold Palestina and Tyrus with Ethiopia, There is he born.)

Cvdl Yee the Philistynes also & they of Tyre with the Morians. Lo, there was he borne.
   (Ye/You_all the Philistines also and they of Tyre with the Morians. Lo, there was he born.)

Wycl (PSA 86:4) I schal be myndeful of Raab, and Babiloyne; knowynge me. Lo! aliens, and Tyre, and the puple of Ethiopiens; thei weren there.
   (I shall be mindful of Rahab, and Babylon; knowing me. Lo! aliens/foreigners, and Tyre, and the people of Ethiopians; they were there.)

Luth Ich will predigen lassen Rahab und Babel, daß sie mich kennen sollen. Siehe, die Philister und Tyrer samt den Mohren werden daselbst geboren.
   (I will preaching let Rahab and Babel, that they/she/them me know should. See/Look, the Philistines and Tyrians together_with the Ethiopians become there born.)

ClVg (PSA 86:4) Memor ero Rahab et Babylonis, scientium me; ecce alienigenæ, et Tyrus, et populus Æthiopum, hi fuerunt illic.[fn]
   (Recall/Remember I_will_be Rahab and Babylon, know me; behold aliens/foreigners, and Tyrus, and the_people Of_Ethiopians, these they_were there.)


86.4 Memor ero. ID. Diapsalma. Dominus de eadem Jerusalem. Memor ero Raab. Ostendit quæ sunt illa gloriosa; quasi dicat: Hæc sunt illa: in illa civitate, inquit Propheta ex persona Dei, Memor ero Raab et Babylonis, quæ non pertinent ad populum Judæorum. Gloriosa de te, ubi non solus est Judæus, sed omnes gentes. Raab. Per fenestram emisit coccinum, id est, in fronte habet signum sanguinis Christi Ecclesia gentium. Unde: Publicani et meretrices præcedent vos in regnum cœlorum. Raab, latitudo vel impetus, gentes, quæ late et impetuose vagantur per vitia. Ad Babyloniam pertinent omnes mali, ut ad Jerusalem omnes sancti. Ecce alienigenæ. Memor ero. Quare hoc dixisti? Ecce alienigenæ, id est, gentes Tyrus, angustia vitiorum, vel pœnitentiæ.


86.4 Recall/Remember I_will_be. ID. Pause_in_music. Master from/about the_same Yerusalem. Recall/Remember I_will_be Rahab. Shows which are that glorious; as_if let_him_say: These are that: in/into/on that city, he_said Prophet from person of_God, Recall/Remember I_will_be Rahab and Babylon, which not/no pertinent to the_people Jews. Glorious from/about you(sg), where not/no alone it_is Jew, but everyone people/nations. Rahab. Through window sent scarlet, that it_is, in/into/on forehead has sign/signal blood of_Christ Assembly/Church of_Gentile_nations. From_where/who: Publicans/tax_collectors and prostitutes they_will_precede you(pl) in/into/on kingdom of_the_heavens. Rahab, width or impetus, people/nations, which late and impetuously they_wander through vices. To Babylon pertinent everyone evil, as to Yerusalem everyone holy. Behold aliens/foreigners. Recall/Remember I_will_be. Why this you_said? Behold aliens/foreigners, that it_is, people/nations Tyrus, distress of_vices, or of_repentance.


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HAP Hebrew accents and phrasing: See Allan Johnson's Hebrew accents and phrasing analysis.

UTN uW Translation Notes:

Note 1 topic: writing-pronouns

אַזְכִּ֤יר

(Some words not found in UHB: mention rahab and,Babylon to,[those_of,who]_know_me see/lo/see! Fəleshet and,Tyre with Kūsh this he/it_was_born there )

The pronoun I refers to Yahweh, who is the speaker from this point in the psalm. It may be helpful to clarify this for your readers. Alternate translation: [I, Yahweh, will mention]

Note 2 topic: figures-of-speech / metaphor

רַ֥הַב

rahab

Here the psalmist is speaking of Egypt as if it were the sea monster Rahab. The psalmist may be comparing Egypt to Rahab because of the way God rescued Israel from Israel at the Sea of Reeds. It is not referring to the person named Rahab mentioned elsewhere in the Bible. You could state the meaning plainly. Alternate translation: [Egypt]

Note 3 topic: writing-pronouns

לְֽ⁠יֹ֫דְעָ֥⁠י

to,[those_of,who]_know_me

In the phrase the ones knowing me, the pronoun me refers to Yahweh, who is the speaker. It may be helpful to clarify this for your readers. Alternate translation: [the ones knowing me, Yahweh]

Note 4 topic: figures-of-speech / metaphor

הִנֵּ֤ה

(Some words not found in UHB: mention rahab and,Babylon to,[those_of,who]_know_me see/lo/see! Fəleshet and,Tyre with Kūsh this he/it_was_born there )

Yahweh is using the term behold to focus his listeners’ attention on what he is about to say. Your language may have a comparable expression that you can use in your translation. Alternate translation: [take note]

Note 5 topic: figures-of-speech / ellipsis

פְלֶ֣שֶׁת וְ⁠צ֣וֹר עִם־כּ֑וּשׁ

(Some words not found in UHB: mention rahab and,Babylon to,[those_of,who]_know_me see/lo/see! Fəleshet and,Tyre with Kūsh this he/it_was_born there )

Yahweh is leaving out some of the words that in many languages a sentence would need in order to be complete. You can supply these words from the context if that would be clearer in your language. Alternate translation: [I will also mention Philistia and Tyre with Cush]

Note 6 topic: writing-quotations

זֶ֝֗ה יֻלַּד־שָֽׁם

this (Some words not found in UHB: mention rahab and,Babylon to,[those_of,who]_know_me see/lo/see! Fəleshet and,Tyre with Kūsh this he/it_was_born there )

This is a quotation that Yahweh says about each person from the nations he has listed. If it would be helpful to your readers, you could indicate this with a natural way of introducing direct quotations in your language.

Note 7 topic: figures-of-speech / activepassive

יֻלַּד

(Some words not found in UHB: mention rahab and,Babylon to,[those_of,who]_know_me see/lo/see! Fəleshet and,Tyre with Kūsh this he/it_was_born there )

The expression was born is a passive verbal form. If it would be unnatural to use that form, you could express the idea in active form or in another way that is natural in your language. Alternate translation: [began life]

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